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Around The League Off Season Discussion

...Lawless says Riders looking at Ottawa Asst GM and John Murphy as potential new GM. Have asked for permission to speak to both. Fwiw.

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Any reason on why he is leaving? 

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

Any reason on why he is leaving? 

Maybe the Douchey new GM is looking for a new babysitter

2 hours ago, Rich said:

 

Thats too bad. Would have liked to have seen him.

Goalie ive often wondered how effective some of the depth position coaches are. I havent see a lot of RB coaches make a big impact in the cfl.

8 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Goalie ive often wondered how effective some of the depth position coaches are. I havent see a lot of RB coaches make a big impact in the cfl.

They teach fundamentals and run drills. Good ones keep the guys motivated and promote pride in the unit. Kyle Walters started here as rb coach. Richard Harris was a positional coach for most of the time he was here too.

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3 hours ago, JohnnyOnTheSpot said:

They teach fundamentals and run drills. Good ones keep the guys motivated and promote pride in the unit. Kyle Walters started here as rb coach. Richard Harris was a positional coach for most of the time he was here too.

Most of the guys in the cfl especially from the states have had high level coaching since they were 8. Theres some adaptation to the cfl game, but i dont see it being a constant thing out side of camp. Maybe im wrong.  Motivating pro athletes is a tough thing. Many many coaches have talked about how you can motivate alot of college guys but after that step to he pros its a lot less influential. Harris was a position coach his entire time here. He got a lot of credit and seemed like a great football mind and person. But he was one in a million. Personally it doesnt seem like a lot of positional coaches in the cfl have been highly impact full. Our OL coach for one, bob wylie. a lot of hype, a lot of camps and stuff. Yet despite better pieces then we had when he came back we havent seen any big improvements.  

5 hours ago, JohnnyOnTheSpot said:

They teach fundamentals and run drills. Good ones keep the guys motivated and promote pride in the unit. Kyle Walters started here as rb coach. Richard Harris was a positional coach for most of the time he was here too.

 

No he didn't.

Couple of Bomber notables from the Riders mini-camp in Florida.

 

WR JORDAN REAVES ON HIS SWITCH TO DB

JR: Oh I'm having fun. I'm having a lot of fun. Sunday was moreso learning the concepts and today was moreso learning them. When I learn a concept one time, it sticks to me. I'm a quick learner and a good learner. I've never been on the defensive side of the field before so it's definitely a change but I like change. But it's fun. When Coach Jones first told me to go to safety I was a little apprehensive about it but it's fun. I've been smiling the whole time, especially when I understood the concepts and saw it working.

RB CHEVON WALKER

CW: I feel good just coming out here and picking up the offense and where I left off. It's kind of the same offense we had in Ottawa with Jason Maas so it's second nature to me. I'm just trying to do the things they said I wasn't doing in the past. I'm just playing ball and it's good to be out here with the guys.

Honestly I can't even tell you what happened in Ottawa. They said I wasn't doing a couple of things they asked me to do and that's where it's at. But that chapter is closed and I'm trying to open a new chapter. I'm just thankful to be out here with these guys and I'm just happy Coach Jones extended the opportunity for me to be out here. I'm trying to do my best and leave it in the coaches' hands.

1 hour ago, gcn11 said:

 

No he didn't.

Kyle Walters: rb and special teams 2010-12

Richard Harris: 2006-2010  DL coach.      Asst head coach and DL in 2011.

Further to the Riders, and their recent 3 day mini-camp, here's a summary of all the things that happened in the camp that Bomber fans should find interesting and were noteworthy:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On ‎4‎/‎7‎/‎2016 at 3:52 PM, Jpan85 said:

Ben Heenan retires says not injury related just wanted to move on in life.

That's crazy. He could come back to the CFL & play for a decade as a starter. Makes no sense.

33 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

Further to the Riders, and their recent 3 day mini-camp, here's a summary of all the things that happened in the camp that Bomber fans should find interesting and were noteworthy:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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this is exactly what I keep thinking when that ticker keeps scrolling thru rider mini-camp messages.   Like I give two squirts of piss if Jones thanked some rider media leech for being at the camp. 

40 minutes ago, iso_55 said:

That's crazy. He could come back to the CFL & play for a decade as a starter. Makes no sense.

He wants to farm. If that's his passion and he enjoys it more than football good on him.

1 hour ago, iso_55 said:

That's crazy. He could come back to the CFL & play for a decade as a starter. Makes no sense.

I have no idea of this played into his decision but I would think a lot of football players have been forced into some soul searching if they've seen the Concussion movie.

Make 200k per in the CFL for the next 10 years and put the rest of your life at risk or prolong your quality of life while you still can.

 

On 08/04/2016 at 7:51 PM, kelownabomberfan said:

couldn't resist the pull of the cousin land I guess.

Was gone too long and many changes had occurred .  He could no longer figure the mother, daughter, sister, cousin thing out.

2 hours ago, Mr Dee said:

Further to the Riders, and their recent 3 day mini-camp, here's a summary of all the things that happened in the camp that Bomber fans should find interesting and were noteworthy:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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That might appear good to some but when you read between the lines it doesn't paint a pretty picture at all!

4 hours ago, Jpan85 said:

He wants to farm. If that's his passion and he enjoys it more than football good on him.

Well, there's been no stories I can see explaining his decision just a tweet that he wants to move on.

8 hours ago, Jpan85 said:

He wants to farm. If that's his passion and he enjoys it more than football good on him.

Apparently his family has a huge farm, so it's not like he's giving up his football career to make milk money, he'll be well compensated.

6 hours ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

Apparently his family has a huge farm, so it's not like he's giving up his football career to make milk money, he'll be well compensated.

If that's the case, 200k for the next 10 years will be peanuts compared to making 100k for the next 40 years...

19 hours ago, Rich said:

I have no idea of this played into his decision but I would think a lot of football players have been forced into some soul searching if they've seen the Concussion movie.

Make 200k per in the CFL for the next 10 years and put the rest of your life at risk or prolong your quality of life while you still can.

 

I think its become a none decision for a lot of luke warm guys. The main stay of guys live and breathe football, and or dream of the nfl would chase that dream through the business end of a mack truck for a chance. 

On ‎2016‎-‎04‎-‎12 at 1:36 PM, JohnnyOnTheSpot said:

Kyle Walters: rb and special teams 2010-12

Richard Harris: 2006-2010  DL coach.      Asst head coach and DL in 2011.

He was never a RB coach. Not sure where you have gotten that information, but the BB official website, along with his bios at several other CFL sites including CFL.ca list him as STC for those years. Further to that, all his prior coaching history was on the defensive side of the ball and STs. Therefore, if you cannot admit your mistake please provide a link to a source confirming that he was RB coach.

19 minutes ago, gcn11 said:

He was never a RB coach. Not sure where you have gotten that information, but the BB official website, along with his bios at several other CFL sites including CFL.ca list him as STC for those years. Further to that, all his prior coaching history was on the defensive side of the ball and STs. Therefore, if you cannot admit your mistake please provide a link to a source confirming that he was RB coach.

He filled both the RB coaching spot and the ST coordinator spot for us in those years. Not sure why you'd choose to be condescending as opposed to performing a simple Google search.

*patiently waiting for you to admit your mistake*

5 minutes ago, Mike said:

He filled both the RB coaching spot and the ST coordinator spot for us in those years. Not sure why you'd choose to be condescending as opposed to performing a simple Google search.

*patiently waiting for you to admit your mistake*

No mistake at all Mike. The reference to him being a RB coach was one perpetuated by a paper at his alma mater. I attended practices through all those years, and I can tell you sure as **** he was NOT the RB coach. I will believe what I saw with my own eyes thank you very much...not what's printed by 3rd year journalism students a thousand miles away. Perhaps you should look at the Bombers official press release on his hiring as well.

The Gryphon (Guelph's college newspaper) floated a rumor before he was hired that he would be joining the Bombers as STC/RB coach....a mistake they never bothered to correct after he was hired as STC only.

However, if you have a link to any official Bomber source indicating he was RB coach, please share and I will gladly retract.

Edited by gcn11

On 4/13/2016 at 11:34 AM, wbbfan said:

I think its become a none decision for a lot of luke warm guys. The main stay of guys live and breathe football, and or dream of the nfl would chase that dream through the business end of a mack truck for a chance. 

Heenan has a real advantage, the reality for a lot of footballers from the US is they come from poverty and have nothing to fall back on.  They get accepted into college based on their athletic ability and are either unprepared for the challenge or blow off the opportunity provided to further their education.  The edumacational system in the States is a disgrace, I been there and dids it.

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