Guest J5V Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 MOS is kind of in a tough situation. If we don't make the playoffs next year or if he takes us to the Grey Cup he's still going to get fired I'm not so sure. Maybe he'll start figuring it out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UK03YcY3rc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousBIG Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 We have zero depth. Fire Walters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 That's what we call...a zero in-depth analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 We've let 3 individuals with no experience managing or coaching a CFL team try to rebuild this team from scratch like an expansion team. It's been an epic fail. Where do we go from here WHEN the firings come? I could live with a head coach who was a successful coordinator like Orlando Steinhauer or Noel Thorpe,especially Steinhauer as he looks like he's a high energy coach but the GM has to have prior CFL experience & knows what it takes to build a winner. I'd love to see John Murphy here because he has a pipeline for players & has worked under Huff & Jim Barker for years. To me,working under those 2 guys is experience enough. bearpants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 O Shea has looked completely defeated the last three or so games. His body language looks of a guy who knows or thinks he won't be back next season. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousBIG Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 That's what we call...a zero in-depth analysis. Yawn. Lemmings gonna lemming. Walters should be gone immediately -- and Murphy would be a huge coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 O Shea has looked completely defeated the last three or so games. His body language looks of a guy who knows or thinks he won't be back next season. Two of the closest games we have played all season and you think hes looking defeated? Man. You ought to go work as a body behaviourist for the FBI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Close games yes but when he looks at the standings that might change how he feels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 O Shea has looked completely defeated the last three or so games. His body language looks of a guy who knows or thinks he won't be back next season. Two of the closest games we have played all season and you think hes looking defeated? Man. You ought to go work as a body behaviourist for the FBI. The guy exudes zero confidence in his half time interviews and actually is starting to have the blank stare that Burke made famous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 The 'Keep O'Shea' group has Friesen on their side: http://www.winnipegsun.com/2015/10/05/not-another-house-cleaning--lame-duck-status-might-put-jolt-into-blue-bombers-coach-mike-oshea billfrank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Well, if the Bombers don t fire MOS after this season then they will midway thru next season when we're something like 2-6 or 2-7 because we'll never be close to being a winner with him as head coach. #lostcause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 If O`Shea is kept for next season, he might surprise and do great, but the odds are against him. I do not recall any coach who got off to such a horrible two-year record and rebounded to be a good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Tough to judge him when his franchise QB has gone down early in both his seasons at the helm. At least now we have a competent back-up. Gotta give him next year for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy Sucks Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Tough to judge him when his franchise QB has gone down early in both his seasons at the helm. At least now we have a competent back-up. Gotta give him next year for sure... You remember that Willy did play in 17 games last year right? I'm not on the fire Oshea bandwagon (yet) but we can't use that excuse for last year as Willy did not go down early. This year, certainly we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Tough to judge him when his franchise QB has gone down early in both his seasons at the helm. At least now we have a competent back-up. Gotta give him next year for sure... You remember that Willy did play in 17 games last year right? I'm not on the fire Oshea bandwagon (yet) but we can't use that excuse for last year as Willy did not go down early. This year, certainly we can. Sorry...."start and finish and was even relatively healthy"........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Those who like OShea are grasping for reasons to keep him and now to extend his contract? You have to ignore his record or give him points for 'Moral Victories' to even think of extending his contract. You have to ignore the fact that only 1 HC who didn't make the playoffs in their first 2 years didn't get fired since the turn of the century, probably longer. You have to ignore the fact that only 2 HC's coaches in the CFL have ever missed the playoffs in their first 2 years and went on to be a good HC and one of them waited a decade to get a second chance. Yep some people are ignoring those things...probably because they have absolutely no bearing on this conversation. You can't apply generalities across the board as if they are absolutes. You judge MOS solely on his body of work, and with the facts you have, if you are the Bombers....certainly not on historical data. If we ignore history, we're doomed to repeat it. If you ignore context, you're doomed to sound like an idiot. blitzmore and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 If Walters leaves for Guelph MOS is toast. Might be a moot point in 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 If O`Shea is kept for next season, he might surprise and do great, but the odds are against him. I do not recall any coach who got off to such a horrible two-year record and rebounded to be a good coach. What is most disappointing with O'Shea is that after 2 years of patiently waiting for him to round into a good HC it hasn't happened. We knew he lacked experience but he should be much better by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 The only problem with O'Shea is that he has too much confidence in players who are a net negative on the team. The killers this year are Stoudermire, Hajrullahu, Picard and Neufeld. Put competent players in those roles and the Bombers are easily .500 and probably nipping Calgary's heels as they have two wins on us they don't deserve. blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 He has to lose that big chip on his shoulder before I support him. He's cocky to the point of being arrogant. O'Shea came in as a know it all coach & it turns out he has no answers to all of the questions. Not as smart as he thought he was. No idea why he is like that as there's no need to be. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Tough to judge him when his franchise QB has gone down early in both his seasons at the helm. At least now we have a competent back-up. Gotta give him next year for sure... You remember that Willy did play in 17 games last year right? I'm not on the fire Oshea bandwagon (yet) but we can't use that excuse for last year as Willy did not go down early. This year, certainly we can. Willy may not have "gone down" last year but he sure had the crap beaten out of him. No way he was anywhere near 100% for most of that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Those who like OShea are grasping for reasons to keep him and now to extend his contract? You have to ignore his record or give him points for 'Moral Victories' to even think of extending his contract. You have to ignore the fact that only 1 HC who didn't make the playoffs in their first 2 years didn't get fired since the turn of the century, probably longer. You have to ignore the fact that only 2 HC's coaches in the CFL have ever missed the playoffs in their first 2 years and went on to be a good HC and one of them waited a decade to get a second chance. Yep some people are ignoring those things...probably because they have absolutely no bearing on this conversation. You can't apply generalities across the board as if they are absolutes. You judge MOS solely on his body of work, and with the facts you have, if you are the Bombers....certainly not on historical data. If we ignore history, we're doomed to repeat it. If you ignore context, you're doomed to sound like an idiot. Yup... let's ignore history because context (excuses) are so much more reliable. #haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Well, if the Bombers don t fire MOS after this season then they will midway thru next season when we're something like 2-6 or 2-7 because we'll never be close to being a winner with him as head coach. #holyhyberbole Fixed for accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Well, if the Bombers don t fire MOS after this season then they will midway thru next season when we're something like 2-6 or 2-7 because we'll never be close to being a winner with him as head coach. #holyhyberbole Fixed for accuracy. It's hyperbole, not hyberbole. So much for accuracy, you can't even spell. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Well, if the Bombers don t fire MOS after this season then they will midway thru next season when we're something like 2-6 or 2-7 because we'll never be close to being a winner with him Marcel Bellefeuille as head coach offensive coordinator. #lostcause There! Fixed it for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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