One of the many bits of information during an interview with Tim Burke that Bob Irving had on the CJOB Sports Show.

hello doug pierce

One would hope! It's certainly a big window to evaluate him if that's the route they go.

as much of a write off as this season has been overall, poor Chris Matthews has been cursed from jump street...

After listening to MB's press conference and tonight's coaches show, I'm pretty confident we see Pierce start this weekend.  MB noted that a qb can still be developed at #2 through increased reps in practice, which made me think he was laying the groundwork for Pierce to take back the job.

 

Burke said on his show that he thinks Crowton liked Hall for the job b/c he had the best understanding of the American style offense he was running. That sounds to me like they don't think he's the best fit to run MB's new CFL style offense.

Also confirmed that Doug Pierce will in fact draw into the line up.

as much of a write off as this season has been overall, poor Chris Matthews has been cursed from jump street...

 

 

This is why Chris Williams is sitting out the season.  

It sets a dangerous precedent, especially if he gets a job in the NFL pretty quick.

Might as well as go with 3 Canuck receivers once Watson is back. I wouldn't start any of Denmark, Pierce and Anderson over Kohlert/Etienne.

Im kind of excited to have Matthews leave the line up to be honest. He's just not the same guy this year.

If they start Buck this weekend I will be done purchasing any tickets for the rest of the season. This is complete bullshit. I cannot believe they are going back to buck.

 

 

Just play the guy who can win. Let's let Bellefeuille do his thing before reacting.

I don't get the hysteria over Buck. Let me ask you this. If they start Buck and he wins will you still never buy a ticket? I mean get a grip.

I don't get the hysteria over Buck. Let me ask you this. If they start Buck and he wins will you still never buy a ticket? I mean get a grip.

 

It still accomplishes nothing for the future of this franchise.

 

Let's be honest here, one or two wins from Buck in the interim isn't going to do anything but give our boneheaded management a false sense of direction and hope leading into 2014.

I dont disagree with you Mike.  If the staff held a presser and said "We deem this season a write-off and will now audition players for next season" then they should not start Buck (though depending on what happens the rest of the season I still think he has value as a veteran back up next year).  But I dont want to hear the season is a write off when we're two points out of a spot.

 

The QB issue should be decided in the off-season, training camp, pre-season games.  And hopefully you play well enough that your back up gets some playing time when you're winning games big, the occasional injury etc.  Isnt that a better way to develop than throwing every kid against the wall and hoping one of them sticks?

If they start Buck this weekend I will be done purchasing any tickets for the rest of the season. This is complete bullshit. I cannot believe they are going back to buck.

 

Hold on to that thought after this game. You never know who will end up at QB by the second half. 

I dont disagree with you Mike.  If the staff held a presser and said "We deem this season a write-off and will now audition players for next season" then they should not start Buck (though depending on what happens the rest of the season I still think he has value as a veteran back up next year).  But I dont want to hear the season is a write off when we're two points out of a spot.

 

The QB issue should be decided in the off-season, training camp, pre-season games.  And hopefully you play well enough that your back up gets some playing time when you're winning games big, the occasional injury etc.  Isnt that a better way to develop than throwing every kid against the wall and hoping one of them sticks?

 

I would agree with you IF Buck was a better option than either Goltz or Hall.

 

But he's not. Let's face it, with Buck around, the development of a young QB is not going to be ideal because at some point, he's going to be forced into duty in a situation he's unprepared for. I'd rather see a QB fail because of his own issues than fail because he was put in a less than stellar situation due to the fact that he's riding a QB merry-go-round with a glass veteran. I hate to dwell on Elliott and Brink but how did they perform in relief duty last year when they got ZERO first team reps during the practice week? Compare that to how they performed when they were given the resources and opportunity.

 

Buck hasn't shown me anything that makes me think he's worth spending first team reps on in practice. He's not any more likely to win games than Hall or Goltz at this point and the potential upside that could come with their development (while we still have an opportunity to fight for a playoff spot) is valuable far beyond what miniscule (and personally, I don't think it's ANY) improvement Buck provides us with behind center.

I dont disagree with you Mike. If the staff held a presser and said "We deem this season a write-off and will now audition players for next season" then they should not start Buck (though depending on what happens the rest of the season I still think he has value as a veteran back up next year). But I dont want to hear the season is a write off when we're two points out of a spot.

The QB issue should be decided in the off-season, training camp, pre-season games. And hopefully you play well enough that your back up gets some playing time when you're winning games big, the occasional injury etc. Isnt that a better way to develop than throwing every kid against the wall and hoping one of them sticks?

This would be true if Buck was obviously better then the other guys, but he hasn't been.

If Buck plays, it will be interesting to see what he can do with Marcel calling the plays, but I'm not holding my breath that it will be much better or that he can stay healthy.

If Buck doesn't give us a substantial increase in QB play over the other two guys, which Mikes advanced stat thread shows, then we are delaying the advancement of Hall or Goltz by one more year for no good reason.

At this point, I just wanna see this team win some games. I'm willing to let MB decide who he thinks gives us that chance. If he feels like we need Buck to start, and that he can develop a back-up with his new practice system, then so be it. At this point, I'm going to put my trust in the experienced CFL OC...

I don't think it really matters what QB is playing. If the O line is so porous that the QB's have less than 2 seconds to make a decision, we're doomed. They can't even make a hole big enough to get the running back into the secondary. Can't really develop a QB when he's running for his life 9 out of 10 plays!

I feel like Buck deserves an opportunity with a legitimate CFL offense (or as close as we are going to get).  If he stinks the joint out, ill be the first to admit it.

I'm with Noeller on this. While my gut says I don't want to see Buck again, I'm willing to let MB go with what he thinks is best for now. But whoever starts needs to be on a short leash.

I'm with Noeller on this. While my gut says I don't want to see Buck again, I'm willing to let MB go with what he thinks is best for now. But whoever starts needs to be on a short leash.

Indeed this...very torn, but I really feel like this right now...

Who goes in for Matthews ?

Who goes in for Matthews ?

Doug Pierce...very similar player.

I don't get the hysteria over Buck. Let me ask you this. If they start Buck and he wins will you still never buy a ticket? I mean get a grip.

 

 

Respectfully, I strongly disagree. To be honest, I don't care if Buck wins us 5 games in a row. We are 1-6!!! Buck is not the future, and even if he weren't so injury prone the guy just cannot play like he used to. The offence has NEVER been good with Buck at the helm, its just a waste of time. I would rather lose games and run with a guy who can hopefully win consistently in the future than putting buck back in, getting hurt for what the 10th time as a bomber, and letting the qb carousel start all over again.

 

 

I think I have a grip... I like Buck as a competitor as much as the next guy but man this is like dejavu over and over again. Buck's career is over and somehow he manages to sneak his way back in.