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RT @BobIrvingCJOB: Mike O'Shea says Drew willy looks good and should start vs bc on Saturday

Makes sense to me, Gotta start DREW when the game still matters. Expect to see Marve tho in the last game of the year. 

Good good....I feel like we'll win vs BC, but a tough go vs Calgary in Calgary, unless they are resting everyone.

Drew with Marve in at times for a different look?

Willy needs lots of reps. Marve is the short yardage guy, and that's it. Not much changes...

I don't particularly trust O'Shea and his judgement in believing he can always pull out a win even down by 20 with one minute left on the clock.  if he puts in Marve at all I predict it will be with 30 secs. left in the game.

Willy is the #1. We still unbelievably have a chance to make the playoffs... Hence, Willy starts.

In the FreeP today, Lawless described O'Shea as very stubborn. It may have served o"Shea well in the past as a player or even as an assistant coach, but as a head coach, if he has difficulty seeing that he is wrong when he obviously is, it will not go well for him or the team. Determination is a great asset, but not if it turns into rigidity.

I actually don't see O'Shea as all that stubborn. I'd say reluctant to make significant changes when they were playing well, but after a couple back to back big losses he damned sure changed things up. 

In the FreeP today, Lawless described O'Shea as very stubborn.

And Lawless also wrote that O'Shea has a volcanic temper and was likely to lose it on the sidelines.

O'Shea just confirmed on the Coach's Show that it's Willy all of the way.  The only way Marve gets back in is if Willy is injured, again.

 

In the FreeP today, Lawless described O'Shea as very stubborn.

And Lawless also wrote that O'Shea has a volcanic temper and was likely to lose it on the sidelines.

 

What the heck- one out of two ain't bad. Maybe O'Shea is on Librium.

Willy is our starter so id he's good to go he plays. Simple as that. 

Makes sense to me, Gotta start DREW when the game still matters. Expect to see Marve tho in the last game of the year. 

Make no sense to me, Willy hasn't played well for Weeks now he hasn't earned the start based on his play other players have to sit and wait their turn but Willy gets to start based on what ? I won't be watching if Willy is playing I am done with stupid coaches starting their guy let the best players play ! Tired of Romby Bryant as well and EJ would be playing if he wasn't injured MOS neesd to learn to start his best players regardless of salary or who his favorites are...

Makes sense to me, Gotta start DREW when the game still matters. Expect to see Marve tho in the last game of the year.

Make no sense to me, Willy hasn't played well for Weeks now he hasn't earned the start based on his play other players have to sit and wait their turn but Willy gets to start based on what ? I won't be watching if Willy is playing I am done with stupid coaches starting their guy let the best players play ! Tired of Romby Bryant as well and EJ would be playing if he wasn't injured MOS neesd to learn to start his best players regardless of salary or who his favorites are...

You DO understand the concept of starter, right? #1? The first string?

Marve should leapfrog the depth chart based on a half of football and ten passes when playoffs are still a (distant, yes but still) a possibility? No... Not likely..

Makes sense to me, Gotta start DREW when the game still matters. Expect to see Marve tho in the last game of the year.

Make no sense to me, Willy hasn't played well for Weeks now he hasn't earned the start based on his play other players have to sit and wait their turn but Willy gets to start based on what ? I won't be watching if Willy is playing I am done with stupid coaches starting their guy let the best players play ! Tired of Romby Bryant as well and EJ would be playing if he wasn't injured MOS neesd to learn to start his best players regardless of salary or who his favorites are...

Willy IS the best QB, don't be ridiculous. Suggesting he's not is bordering on idiocy.

 

 

Makes sense to me, Gotta start DREW when the game still matters. Expect to see Marve tho in the last game of the year.

Make no sense to me, Willy hasn't played well for Weeks now he hasn't earned the start based on his play other players have to sit and wait their turn but Willy gets to start based on what ? I won't be watching if Willy is playing I am done with stupid coaches starting their guy let the best players play ! Tired of Romby Bryant as well and EJ would be playing if he wasn't injured MOS neesd to learn to start his best players regardless of salary or who his favorites are...

Willy IS the best QB, don't be ridiculous. Suggesting he's not is bordering on idiocy.

 

 

I like Marve and think someday he may be better than Willy. That day is not in the near future though. I agree with your statement. I cannot for the life of me figure out how anyone could think Marve is the better QB right now.

 

 

Makes sense to me, Gotta start DREW when the game still matters. Expect to see Marve tho in the last game of the year.

Make no sense to me, Willy hasn't played well for Weeks now he hasn't earned the start based on his play other players have to sit and wait their turn but Willy gets to start based on what ? I won't be watching if Willy is playing I am done with stupid coaches starting their guy let the best players play ! Tired of Romby Bryant as well and EJ would be playing if he wasn't injured MOS neesd to learn to start his best players regardless of salary or who his favorites are...

You DO understand the concept of starter, right? #1? The first string?

Marve should leapfrog the depth chart based on a half of football and ten passes when playoffs are still a (distant, yes but still) a possibility? No... Not likely..

 

Absolutely agree 110% with you SPuDs. 

Some Winnipeg fans just truly are never going to be happy. I understand it didn't translate to wins this year in the first year of this new program, but we checked the most important task off our list - find a franchise QB - and still some people want to complain about him.

Drew Willy is the present AND the future of this team. He's not perfect, he's going to struggle but that's all part of what it takes to allow him to develop into the best QB we've had since Khari. If you can't handle being along for the ride, that's on you not him.

 

 

Makes sense to me, Gotta start DREW when the game still matters. Expect to see Marve tho in the last game of the year.

Make no sense to me, Willy hasn't played well for Weeks now he hasn't earned the start based on his play other players have to sit and wait their turn but Willy gets to start based on what ? I won't be watching if Willy is playing I am done with stupid coaches starting their guy let the best players play ! Tired of Romby Bryant as well and EJ would be playing if he wasn't injured MOS neesd to learn to start his best players regardless of salary or who his favorites are...

Willy IS the best QB, don't be ridiculous. Suggesting he's not is bordering on idiocy.

 

 

 

 

Makes sense to me, Gotta start DREW when the game still matters. Expect to see Marve tho in the last game of the year.

Make no sense to me, Willy hasn't played well for Weeks now he hasn't earned the start based on his play other players have to sit and wait their turn but Willy gets to start based on what ? I won't be watching if Willy is playing I am done with stupid coaches starting their guy let the best players play ! Tired of Romby Bryant as well and EJ would be playing if he wasn't injured MOS neesd to learn to start his best players regardless of salary or who his favorites are...

Willy IS the best QB, don't be ridiculous. Suggesting he's not is bordering on idiocy.

 

And you base that on what the fact that Willy has been so successful this year ?

Have you checked his stats his QB rating he is very much on par with Max Hall so that puts him clearly in the lead of the current group ?

I am not saying he won't be good down the road I can see that Willy does have some very good qualities as a QB however that doesn't mean he is the best QB on the roster we haven't see Marve in a full game and Portis has been on the PR...so until we see them we won't know.

I have been to many practices and Willy is accurate when he sees someone open however he doesn't see the entire field and recognize where to go with the ball all of the time and he takes way too many sacks because he needs to throw the ball away sometimes...

I have also not been impressed with his practices many times as he has been outworked but the other QBs and to me your Starter should lead the way...

Also Willy isn't very mobile. So some good things some bad... but until you see the other QBs play a full game or more you can't say who the best is...

Willy needs to improve for me to be convinced he is our future he has the potential to be a very good QB down the road but at this point I am not sure he will be time will tell....

If Willy proves me wrong this week good for him and the Bombers but I am tire of waiting for Willy to turn it around...to me this season is over in terms of the playoff so lets get the other QB's some experience and see what they can do...

I should be surprised that people are turning on Willy so fast considering our QB last year was Max freaking Hall but sadly I'm not. 

I actually don't see O'Shea as all that stubborn. I'd say reluctant to make significant changes when they were playing well, but after a couple back to back big losses he damned sure changed things up. 

 

O'Shea didn't make the significant changes on his own volition, injuries and Grigsby's release determined those changes.

O'Shea didn't make the significant changes on his own volition, injuries and Grigsby's release determined those changes.

 

 

Grigsby asked to be released because he didn't like one of O'Shea's changes.  Remember that Cotton started in Edmonton and Grigsby asked for his release when he was told that Cotton was starting again.

It will be interesting to see how Lirim H. does without his #1 holder these next two weeks.

It will be interesting to see how Lirim H. does without his #1 holder these next two weeks.

I didn't notice...who was the holder after Brohm got injured?

 

 

 

Makes sense to me, Gotta start DREW when the game still matters. Expect to see Marve tho in the last game of the year.

Make no sense to me, Willy hasn't played well for Weeks now he hasn't earned the start based on his play other players have to sit and wait their turn but Willy gets to start based on what ? I won't be watching if Willy is playing I am done with stupid coaches starting their guy let the best players play ! Tired of Romby Bryant as well and EJ would be playing if he wasn't injured MOS neesd to learn to start his best players regardless of salary or who his favorites are...

Willy IS the best QB, don't be ridiculous. Suggesting he's not is bordering on idiocy.

 

And you base that on what the fact that Willy has been so successful this year ?

Have you checked his stats his QB rating he is very much on par with Max Hall so that puts him clearly in the lead of the current group ?

I am not saying he won't be good down the road I can see that Willy does have some very good qualities as a QB however that doesn't mean he is the best QB on the roster we haven't see Marve in a full game and Portis has been on the PR...so until we see them we won't know.

I have been to many practices and Willy is accurate when he sees someone open however he doesn't see the entire field and recognize where to go with the ball all of the time and he takes way too many sacks because he needs to throw the ball away sometimes...

I have also not been impressed with his practices many times as he has been outworked but the other QBs and to me your Starter should lead the way...

Also Willy isn't very mobile. So some good things some bad... but until you see the other QBs play a full game or more you can't say who the best is...

Willy needs to improve for me to be convinced he is our future he has the potential to be a very good QB down the road but at this point I am not sure he will be time will tell....

If Willy proves me wrong this week good for him and the Bombers but I am tire of waiting for Willy to turn it around...to me this season is over in terms of the playoff so lets get the other QB's some experience and see what they can do...

 

 

Willy doesn't have to prove you wrong, because you haven't been proven right to begin with. This is ALWAYS how it works with fans - the backup QB is always the most popular quarterback in town.

 

And did you just ask me to compare his stats to Max Hall? Maybe before checking if I have, you should have double checked to make sure you had before making such a silly statement. Drew Willy's 65% completion rate and 86.1 QB rating are miles ahead of Max Hall and his barely mediocre 57.2% completion rate and 75 QB rating. Not to mention anyone who has been watching the CFL this year has to account for the downward trend in QB rating because of the emphasis on pretty much anything other than passing the ball in the red zone this year. Ricky Ray is the only QB with a reasonable QB rating because guys like Drew Tate, Pat White, Tanner Marsh, Dan Lefevour and yes, even Robert Marve have been involved in a lot of short yardage work in the red zone. Not to mention quarterbacks have been a bit more mobile this year (Drew Willy included, believe it or not) and have been putting the ball in the endzone with their legs as well.

 

All of that contributes to an overall dip in QB rating league wide this year ... not to mention the expanded roster size being devoted almost exclusively to defense has seen offense in general drop off a bit.

 

As it stands right now, Drew Willy is a first year starting quarterback in this league surrounding by the worst protection that ANY QB has at their disposal. Despite all that, he ranks second in the CFL in passing yardage, third in completion percentage and if you'd like, I can show you a whole bunch of statistics that mean a whole hell of a lot more than an outdated one like QB rating that would tell you he's faring pretty decently, all things considered, as well.

 

He's having a very Mike Reilly-esque first year as a starting QB, and just like Reilly last year, that doesn't translate to wins unfortunately, but just like Reilly last year, it's easy to see that Willy has all the tools to expand on his production in 2015 and continue his ascent to elite status in the CFL.