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Wiecek Article

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/buck-and-the-boys-prep-for-eastern-trek-must-win-no-but-214109361.html

 

 
Buck and the boys prep for Eastern trek Schedule doesn't get any easier after stiff test in Als' territory

By: Paul Wiecek

Posted: 1:00 AM | Comments: 2 | Last Modified: 6:44 AM | Updates

It is, of course, utterly preposterous to suggest that the second game of any 18-game schedule is a must-win.

Just ask Winnipeg Blue Bombers head coach Tim Burke: "I think that's guys in the press overblowing things," Burke said Tuesday after putting his team through their final full practice at Investors Group Field in advance of his club's rematch with the Alouettes Thursday night in Montreal.

So let's concede the point. No, the 0-1 Bombers (who lost 38-33 at home to the Als in Week 1) do not need to win in Montreal this week to continue to have a viable 2013 CFL season.

But indulge us just for a moment as we play out the scenario where the Bombers lose for the second straight week to Montreal, as the oddsmakers -- who've installed the Als as 7.5-point favourites this week -- expect Winnipeg to do.

What does that look like? Well, the 0-2 Bombers would then in Week 3 have to head back out on the road to Guelph, where the Hamilton Tiger-Cats destroyed Winnipeg's backups 52-0 just a couple weeks ago in the final game of the pre-season.

The Ticats would almost certainly be heavy favourites versus Winnipeg again, particularly after the Tabbies in all likelihood crush a truly awful visiting Edmonton Eskimos squad this weekend.

If things play out as expected in Guelph, the 0-3 Bombers would finally return home on July 19 to face the defending Grey Cup champion Toronto Argonauts -- and need to win just to avoid starting the season at 0-4 for the second straight year.

In case you've forgotten what that movie looks like, the 2012 Bombers parlayed an 0-4 start into the mid-season firing of a head coach and a dreadful 6-12 final regular season record.

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And what about after that? Well, Week 5 sees the Bombers hosting a Calgary Stampeders squad that looked very impressive in beating the B.C. Lions in Week 1. And that's followed in Week 6 by a Winnipeg visit to play the Lions at B.C. Place, the sports venue in Canada where Bombers dreams have gone to die in recent years.

And so put it all together and you've got this: No, the Bombers don't have to win Thursday night in Montreal. But losing to the Als again would really suck, and potentially set in motion a chain of events that could make for a very, very long season. Again.

That's very high stakes very early in the season. And so little wonder, then, that the Bombers players on Tuesday -- to a man -- seemed to be doing their best to dampen expectations this week and put whatever happens in Montreal into the context of a much larger picture.

"I don't think it's a must-win game right now," insisted slotback Terrence Edwards. "0-2 is not something we want to do, but it's not the end of the world. We've got plenty more games to play to rectify the problem.

"But I don't see us going (to Montreal) and not playing well. I think we're going to go in there, play well and put ourselves in a position to win the game."

Bombers centre Justin Sorensen was one of the few players Tuesday who agreed this week's contest was a must-win, but he qualified that by saying that's no different than any week.

"They're all must-win games, you know that," Sorensen said. "And I think we let a win get away from us last week. So I think we're motivated this week to come out and stick it to them."

Bombers cornerback Jovon Johnson said he's taking the long view right now and rejected any parallels with the start of last season.

"We've got different guys and different coaches this year. And I think we're handling things a lot differently than last year. This year has nothing to do with last year," said Johnson.

Which brings us back to Burke, who went out of his way on Tuesday to point out a couple things:

First, the Toronto Argonauts also started sluggish during the 2012 regular season and finished a measly 9-9 in the regular season before running the table and winning the Grey Cup.

And second, not all 0-4 season starts are created equal. "It's how we went 0-4 too," Burke said of last year's start. "We went 0-4 ugly.

"Certainly, I think if we play close (in 2013) and we were 0-4, you'd look at that stat differently. But I don't plan on doing that."

paul.wiecek@freepress.mb.ca

 

 

I am so sick of reading this trolling nonsense out of Wiecek.  For a guy who's prior resume includes horseracing, curling, and grade three kickball; the end-of-the-spectrum negatron trolling is rather grating to read...

 

Is it really reporting to suggest the Bombers AFTER ONE GAME are on track to not only lose at Montreal (a team they just played reasonably well against)? 

 

Until the Bombers win some games and regularly put out strongly competitive efforts; we are going to be underdogs weekly.  So don't feel you need to write articles that say "The 0-2 Bombers will have to go back to Guelph to play what will be heavily-favoured Tiger Cats; a place they lost 52-0."  When we're only 0-1 at present.

 

When you're coming off a horrendous season and start the year 0-1, of course every game on the schedule looks like an uphill battle right now.  But that's why you have the offseason and training camp... to effect some change, and possibly improve your roster.

 

My humble suggestion for Wiecek and the Freep: Take the pen out of his hand for a month, and send him to every football game you can in 30 days.  Of course, this won't happen because the paper likely can't afford to, and secondly, his ego wouldn't allow him to accept that he doesn't know anything about the game.  But to actually get some sort of football analysis out of him (even if trolling) instead of this drivel, would be an improvement.

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Can the Free Press not find one kid out of Red River's CC Program, who can write and knows a little about football?

Can the Free Press not find one kid out of Red River's CC Program, who can write and knows a little about football?

 

Wouldn't matter if they could... they can't afford to hire any more reporters and can't get rid of the ones with seniority.

I liked Melissa Martin's piece on Demond Washington. I think she is a freelance writer... maybe someone here could get a piece in the paper. How awesome would Odds and Sods be in a sidebar of the sports section!

Read that article at the beach this morning and laughed my ass off. I think this is a new low for the Freep, now claiming the sky is falling on an 0-4 team...we shouldn't even play the games since Wiecek has already seen the future.

It's like they've gotten tired of criticizing the bombers for this week and just want to go ahead of start ripping them for a season they have yet to play.

Next article: "Winnipeg may not win a game in 2014".

And for the record Wiecek had a decent point in that the Bombers don't want losses to pile up early in the season but then just went absolutely insane with the predictions.

Hard to say what exactly he was getting at in that article but I suspect it's that you have to win your home games, especially in the Bombers case, since their road record over the last few years has been really, really putrid.

I would say until any team EARNS some degree of what people deem positive media what exactly do you expect. Fans are fans media report. It's like people have often excused the officials of being biased against the Bombers, my responses was don't confuse inept with bias.

 It's like people have often excused the officials of being biased against the Bombers, my responses was don't confuse inept with bias.

I promise not to confuse inept with bias if you promise not to confuse excuse with accuse.

Is there anyone in the Winnipeg print media (besides Tait) who knows what they are talking about when it comes to the CFL? In Tuesday's Sun Penton called Hefney one of the stars of week 1 because he had 10 tackles and was around the ball a lot. I really don't think it's too much to ask to have someone who is knowledgeable and unbiased covering teams in pro sports.

Excuse with accuse? Call it what you like you are a living witness to the result. That is the problem when you think being a fan is being an objective thinker. There is no fan in objectivity.

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Is there anyone in the Winnipeg print media (besides Tait) who knows what they are talking about when it comes to the CFL? In Tuesday's Sun Penton called Hefney one of the stars of week 1 because he had 10 tackles and was around the ball a lot. I really don't think it's too much to ask to have someone who is knowledgeable and unbiased covering teams in pro sports.

 

It kills me that Hefney is continually lauded for being a great tackler.  He led the Bombers in tackles last year at the DHB position.  To me, that screams of being unable to prevent completions; and QB's throwing at him, moreso than great tackling. 

 

Anyone know why Darrelle Revis never led the Jets in tackles?  Shutdown DB's don't get thrown at frequently...

It kills me that Hefney is continually lauded for being a great tackler.  He led the Bombers in tackles last year at the DHB position.  To me, that screams of being unable to prevent completions; and QB's throwing at him, moreso than great tackling. 

 

Anyone know why Darrelle Revis never led the Jets in tackles?  Shutdown DB's don't get thrown at frequently...

 

Big difference in responsibilities between a corner in the NFL and a halfback in the CFL.  All CFL halfbacks who start the whole season (or close to it) rack up big tackle numbers.  It can't really be avoided.

It kills me that Hefney is continually lauded for being a great tackler.  He led the Bombers in tackles last year at the DHB position.  To me, that screams of being unable to prevent completions; and QB's throwing at him, moreso than great tackling. 

 

Anyone know why Darrelle Revis never led the Jets in tackles?  Shutdown DB's don't get thrown at frequently...

 

He is playing SAM now... you want your LBs to be your leading tacklers.

 

Hef had a ton of tackles last year because he was covering for Doe/Labbe/Logan/JJ, etc half the time.  We had a weak LB core for a good part of the year.

Hefney is a great tackler and DHB spots rack up tackles inevitably. That still doesn't mean he was a stud last week considering he got burnt HORRIBLY on a TD pass.

Seeing a guy with a ton of tackles always makes me wonder if the other team was picking on him, putting him in chase position and forcing him to make tackles...

Good call Noeller. It's like having your safety being the leading tackler..yikes. It's nice to see those tackles by the guys in the box limiting gains.

He is playing SAM now... you want your LBs to be your leading tacklers.

 

Hef had a ton of tackles last year because he was covering for Doe/Labbe/Logan/JJ, etc half the time.  We had a weak LB core for a good part of the year.

Everyone who knows the CFL game well knows the linebacker spot Hefney plays with Calgary is not a typical linebacker. Yes he is closer to the LOS, but he still has about 95% of the responsibilities of anyone in the secondary. Hefney with a lot of tackles IS NOT an indicator he played well, and as Mike mentioned, he got taken to school on the TD he was burnt for.

Everyone who knows the CFL game well knows the linebacker spot Hefney plays with Calgary is not a typical linebacker. Yes he is closer to the LOS, but he still has about 95% of the responsibilities of anyone in the secondary. Hefney with a lot of tackles IS NOT an indicator he played well, and as Mike mentioned, he got taken to school on the TD he was burnt for.

 

Tackles can be read any way you want.  Doesn't mean he was good but it also doesn't mean he was bad.  Gotta look at it on a play-by-play basis to truly know.

 

Chip Cox racks up big tackle numbers at SAM every year and he's one of the best there is.

tackles are more valuable the closer they are to the LOS. You gotta take them with a good dose of observation as well. If a guy is getting lots of tackles 20 yards downfield that's a problem, if he's getting lots within 5 yards that's good.

Guess its a good thing they play the games, right Wiecek?

Guess its a good thing they play the games, right Wiecek?

Guess its a good thing they play the games, right Westwood?

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He is playing SAM now... you want your LBs to be your leading tacklers.

 

Hef had a ton of tackles last year because he was covering for Doe/Labbe/Logan/JJ, etc half the time.  We had a weak LB core for a good part of the year.

 

He was a DHB last year.  He is absolutely a great tackler... but the job of a DHB is to defend the pass.  Let's not lose sight of that. 

 

Look at the job our secondary did in pass coverage yesterday... I loved what Hefney brought to the Bombers for his first couple of years.  He became a guy who opposing QB's keyed on exploiting.  That's not good. 

 

What I don't disagree with is that you want your LB's to be your leading tacklers.  Hef didn't want to be an LB in Winnipeg.  Amazing how well a little perspective compliments a dinner of pink slip.

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