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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread

Per 3downnation, these are our free agents ... basically everyone but Zach, Vaval, Peterson, Clercius, Randolph, Wallace, Pokey Wilson, MCI, Allen, T. Jones, and Leroux the longsnapper.  

Quarterback

Chris Streveler (A)

Running back

Brady Oliveira (N)

Receiver

Kody Case (A)
Nic Demski (N)
Dillon Mitchell (A)
Dalton Schoen (A)
Jerreth Sterns (A)
Keric Wheatfall (A)

OL

Stanley Bryant (A)
Tui Eli (N)
Chris Kolankowski (N)
Eric Lofton (A)
Patrick Neufeld (N)

Defensive line

Willie Jefferson (A)
Cameron Lawson (N)
Tanner Schmekel (N)
Jake Thomas (N)
James Vaughters (A)
Jamal Woods (A)

Linebacker

Tanner Cadwallader (N)
Shayne Gauthier (N)
Kyrie Wilson (A)

Defensive back

Terrell Bonds (A)
Michael Griffin II (A)
Nick Hallett (N)
Evan Holm (A)
Demerio Houston (A)
Redha Kramdi (N)
Enock Makonzo (N)
Deatrick Nichols (A)
Jamal Parker (A)

Specialist

Sergio Castillo (A)
Jamieson Sheahan (G)

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Bombers traded their 2nd next year to move up. They must like him but we also generally get the extra pick at round 2 because of Canadians starting so essentially we traded 13 for 10. We will likely still have a 2nd in 2027. Also from the video, if people think O’Shea is making these picks, you are dead wrong. Scouts and Kyle 100 percent. Osh is there just to be there. Doesn’t say much at all. It’s Kyle and the scouts draft.

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7 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Another Osh pick. Even the guys on the panel were at a loss to explain this pick. Why would the Bombers trade up for a pick like that???

In reality it’s Kyle and the scouts. That video they posted makes it obvious. Osh has no say in any of this. Honestly. Turns out nobody has a hot clue about the cfl draft. That whole round 2 was wacky. Were other teams questionable picks because coaching? And is it really that questionable? It’s the cfl draft. It’s a crapshoot to begin with. No. That’s just here right. It’s such bullshit and just adds nothing. Reality. O’Shea knows more than all of us on here combined. This was Kyle and the scouts. You really think O’Shea was like yeah this dude that wasn’t at the combine, take him. Honestly. Logic sometimes. The fact this guy wasn’t at the combine should tell you he’s a 100 percent a guy who the scouts loved.

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My opinion...we totally dropped the ball in this draft and not sure what our thinking was/os

Trade up to draft a guy likely available ion later ropunds?...when many other guys who could make an immediate umpact were there

And then after tha other than the oline guy we drafted the same ol same ol Osh boner creating guys who will offer nothing other than maybe backend roster spots with zero upside

I also would have rather grabbed one the other olineman but oh well...Is what it is and technically this dude isnt a Canadian and totally a U,S groomed guy so may tun out well

6 minutes ago, Booch said:

My opinion...we totally dropped the ball in this draft and not sure what our thinking was/os

Trade up to draft a guy likely available ion later ropunds?...when many other guys who could make an immediate umpact were there

And then after tha other than the oline guy we drafted the same ol same ol Osh boner creating guys who will offer nothing other than maybe backend roster spots with zero upside

I also would have rather grabbed one the other olineman but oh well...Is what it is and technically this dude isnt a Canadian and totally a U,S groomed guy so may tun out well

I'm not saying it was a good idea but none of us have any idea who would have been available in later rounds.

This draft proved again that none of the CFL, TSN, or 3downnation guys have any clue where anyone will be drafted beyond the first few guys.

Kinda bummed about the draft. Really thought the Bombers were going to trade up for Vaccaro. Seemed like a perfect fit. Local kid who can replace Neufeld next season. Mauler type too. Disappointing draft imo.

10 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Daniels has to be converting to OL. They’ve never utilized a fullback or TE consistently. Based on who else was still available if they wanted a big blocking receiver hard to believe he would have been the pick.

Have to think they to plan to use this guy on running downs rather than bringing in the 6th ol like we did with Eli last year. I’m all for it if he can actually chip in with the odd catch.

Other than the Daniels trade/pick, Bombers got generally +ve reviews for most of their picks. We’ll see if Cline comes here soon but I’m hopeful. If Daniels is the “**** kicking blocker” Walters claims then maybe I’ll view the pick more +vely than I do now.

11 hours ago, blue85gold said:

I'd bet they want him to the play that 6th oline spot that Tui did last year.

Tui saw some passes out of that as well. Shorter endzones means bigger bodies will be needed.

5 hours ago, wbbfan said:

I hope to see some 5’10 210 lbs sam trying to block and cover this 6’6 275lbs kid.

THIS! LBs have been getting smaller and more agile to help in pass coverage. If they can utilize a big blocker in the passing game as well, it will be a huge benefit. The only question is will they? 11 formation with Brady and a legit rec threat at TE has bully ball written all over it.

5 hours ago, Goalie said:

Bombers traded their 2nd next year to move up. They must like him but we also generally get the extra pick at round 2 because of Canadians starting so essentially we traded 13 for 10. We will likely still have a 2nd in 2027. Also from the video, if people think O’Shea is making these picks, you are dead wrong. Scouts and Kyle 100 percent. Osh is there just to be there. Doesn’t say much at all. It’s Kyle and the scouts draft.

it was like a 1 minute clip. That doesn't tell the entire story even a little.

21 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

What all of us, the pundits included, did not accurately assess is the how the rule changes may affect the draft somewhat. Red zone offenses now will become very NFL like with the small end zone. That means we need an arse kicking blocker who can help our run in the red but must be also viewed as a receiving threat. A TE type. The Daniel's pick makes sense if viewed in that light. Was he a reach or was he a guy we had to make sure we had?

14 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

it was like a 1 minute clip. That doesn't tell the entire story even a little.

No but it does show that Kyle was driving the bus on that pick.

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3 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

What all of us, the pundits included, did not accurately assess is the how the rule changes may affect the draft somewhat. Red zone offenses now will become very NFL like with the small end zone. That means we need an arse kicking blocker who can help our run in the red but must be also viewed as a receiving threat. A TE type. The Daniel's pick makes sense if viewed in that light. Was he a reach or was he a guy we had to make sure we had?

No but it does show that Kyle was driving the bus on that pick.

The GM always controls things during the draft. That's how it goes in all professional leagues. That doesn't mean coaches have zero say.

49 minutes ago, sweep the leg said:

Have to think they to plan to use this guy on running downs rather than bringing in the 6th ol like we did with Eli last year. I’m all for it if he can actually chip in with the odd catch.

Yeah I mean safe to assume they have a role in mind.

Walters seemed really excited to get him.

What I don't like....draft a guy who can't play OL and can't play receiver, scouting reports on him say didn't really play special teams in college...maybe they can coach him up there, testing doesn't really paint him as being very athletic. But he doesn't give you coverage for anything but that very specific role he's drafted for. So would you be better drafting a physical receiver who can block, or a back who can block and maybe take some carries, or just the best OL on the board?

We missed on receiver and that is our biggest need IMO. We have basically no depth and we probably need to start 3 Canadians. We've effectively locked ourselves into dressing 7 OL but one of them isn't really a OL.

Not saying coaches have zero say.... But by watching that clip, it was very much Kyle's show. He's running ****. It was definitely very interesting to see him THAT animated about a guy... It changed my tune a bit re: Dante, to "let's at least give this a shot and see"...

But anyone who thinks the Bombers had a bad draft and want to blame that on Osh because of biases, I'm convinced that's just totally wrong. Walters was very much in charge last night.

9 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

The GM always controls things during the draft. That's how it goes in all professional leagues. That doesn't mean coaches have zero say.

Zero say and final say are two different things. Walter's had 100% final say on the Daniel's pick. This was NOT a pick lobbied for by OSH at 10.

5 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Not saying coaches have zero say.... But by watching that clip, it was very much Kyle's show. He's running ****. It was definitely very interesting to see him THAT animated about a guy... It changed my tune a bit re: Dante, to "let's at least give this a shot and see"...

But anyone who thinks the Bombers had a bad draft and want to blame that on Osh because of biases, I'm convinced that's just totally wrong. Walters was very much in charge last night

100% Kyle's selling the Daniel's pick to the room.

the gm vs coach thing started because goalie claimed based of a 1 minute clip that MOS is just there to be there. All I'm saying is that a 1 minute clip doesn't prove anything. Yes the GM is the main guy during the draft. But coaches also play a role. This isn't a 1 or the other situation.

28 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Tui saw some passes out of that as well. Shorter endzones means bigger bodies will be needed.

THIS! LBs have been getting smaller and more agile to help in pass coverage. If they can utilize a big blocker in the passing game as well, it will be a huge benefit. The only question is will they? 11 formation with Brady and a legit rec threat at TE has bully ball written all over it.

i'VE been saying for a couple a yr I wish we would go with a true TE set and actually utilize that player as well as more than a glorified OL guy and have them have to be accounted for running out to catch a pass. We could have/should have been doing that with MCI and Clercius, especially when you are a run heavy offence, and spreading out the dline with that extra man, and having the SAM or WIL have to accout for dropping off in coverage....be a huge advantage for BO

maybe with this signing we are looking to do so and him bumping Corcorran right off the roster is okay in my books. The idea of trying to convert into a lineman is just bad thinking...and if you wanted a lineman...draft one...More often than ot the "conversion" guys rarely pan out....Same with these ST only giys....Draft the best possible guys with rotational and or possible starter upside...they can play teams just as well as the guys with next to zero upside who you draft for ST work....why fill back half of roster with a nunch of nothing burgers when you can do the same with possible upside guys?..

1 minute ago, GCn20 said:

Zero say and final say are two different things. Walter's had 100% final say on the Daniel's pick. This was NOT a pick lobbied for by OSH at 10.

I would hope the GM has final say and control of who is brought in....sure the collective has input and some sway, and was even said by the organization that Osh had too much sway on things...hopefully that has changed....Any HC will have and should have a standing order of what he wants...and why, but at end of the day it's the G.M's show and he's the architect....and looks like Walter's with some the off-season moves/decisons has taken most of that control back.

I curious and look forward to what Condell may be cooking up and a lineup with that kid..MCI...and Big Kev in multi use roles...and actually used....can be very beneficial....that being said...I doubt we needed to trade up to get him unless Walter's and his scouting team had info from connections and talking to coaches of him that other teams were very interested in him too...which could have been the case....

Just now, Bigblue204 said:

the gm vs coach thing started because goalie claimed based of a 1 minute clip that MOS is just there to be there. All I'm saying is that a 1 minute clip doesn't prove anything. Yes the GM is the main guy during the draft. But coaches also play a role. This isn't a 1 or the other situation.

was stated in media as well that Osh has had too much control...and a lot has been taken back by all accounts....which is a good thing and not just a "bias" against Osh...tho a lot of the negative biases many have with him he rightfully earned

What a bizarre stream of posts. You think this pick was entirely Walters driven? Because of a one minute clip?

Walters is the facilitator on draft day as the guy in the GM seat, but to think he just dreamt this up without significant input from the coaching staff is insane. Think about this for one second: we just hired a new OC who has a decent history of using this type of player, we have never sought out this type of player until now and people are suggesting it’s just pure coincidence that we went out and got a guy like Daniels?

I don’t know why people are so dead set on this “it’s gonna be one or the other” thing. They all work together. I have no idea how to feel about the Daniels pick but I know it wasn’t just Walters and the scouts cooking up the bright idea of snagging a tight end. That desire for sure came with a great deal of input from the coaching staff.

6 minutes ago, Mike said:

What a bizarre stream of posts. You think this pick was entirely Walters driven? Because of a one minute clip?

Walters is the facilitator on draft day as the guy in the GM seat, but to think he just dreamt this up without significant input from the coaching staff is insane. Think about this for one second: we just hired a new OC who has a decent history of using this type of player, we have never sought out this type of player until now and people are suggesting it’s just pure coincidence that we went out and got a guy like Daniels?

I don’t know why people are so dead set on this “it’s gonna be one or the other” thing. They all work together. I have no idea how to feel about the Daniels pick but I know it wasn’t just Walters and the scouts cooking up the bright idea of snagging a tight end. That desire for sure came with a great deal of input from the coaching staff.

was it not Condell in the Hammer who used that big bodied Global Robinson like a true TE with actually passing plays along with blocking schemes?

Why a team doesnt utilize a guy with that size on any down from 7 yard's out or closer on the goaline to slide out and basically post up on an undersized SAM or corner inside the goaline is beyond me...It's easy pickens and the new threat for that totally opens up and goaline plunge from a RB

If anyone saw a lot of Daniels, it would have been Danny McManus; that is the area he scouts, and he was quick to say Daniels when Walters asked who we're going with.

Obviously O’Shea has some say, obviously but it’s quite apparent Kyle and the scouts are running the draft. I’m sure Osh has input but to pretend he lobbied for a dude who he prob never saw play or even at the combine cuz broski wasn’t there is crazy talk.

Also interesting to note they brought in Britton for a private workout. He did not play last season at all. Heck of a 2024 tho.

Ya I've always been the one beating the drum that "Kyle, Osh and Wade are in lock step" and when they show the war room on draft night, you used to always see Wade in there with them.

It's also fair to say that were taking a one minute clip and reading too much into that.... But man, it's a convincing one minute.

As mentioned, I think it's fair to say that there's input from all people involved... But no question that it's "Kyle's Show" on draft night. Nice to see that he doesn't appear to be making unilateral decisions... Asked for everyone's input before "making the call".

14 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Ya I've always been the one beating the drum that "Kyle, Osh and Wade are in lock step" and when they show the war room on draft night, you used to always see Wade in there with them.

It's also fair to say that were taking a one minute clip and reading too much into that.... But man, it's a convincing one minute.

As mentioned, I think it's fair to say that there's input from all people involved... But no question that it's "Kyle's Show" on draft night. Nice to see that he doesn't appear to be making unilateral decisions... Asked for everyone's input before "making the call".

ITis always the GM's show on draft day....also genral recruitment and off-season signings...But like u mentioned there was input from all involved in that clip but also there was a lot more input pre and during actuial draft nobody saw...Osh said zip in that clip...But had a lot to say not on camera

This will be a draft where the fourth round picks will be better than the second.

Pace, Stuart, Parks and Odenwinge all had better tape. The second round guys seem to be alot of, I like that guy's athleticism or size.

12 minutes ago, Booch said:

i'VE been saying for a couple a yr I wish we would go with a true TE set and actually utilize that player as well as more than a glorified OL guy and have them have to be accounted for running out to catch a pass. We could have/should have been doing that with MCI and Clercius, especially when you are a run heavy offence, and spreading out the dline with that extra man, and having the SAM or WIL have to accout for dropping off in coverage....be a huge advantage for BO

maybe with this signing we are looking to do so and him bumping Corcorran right off the roster is okay in my books. The idea of trying to convert into a lineman is just bad thinking...and if you wanted a lineman...draft one...More often than ot the "conversion" guys rarely pan out....Same with these ST only giys....Draft the best possible guys with rotational and or possible starter upside...they can play teams just as well as the guys with next to zero upside who you draft for ST work....why fill back half of roster with a nunch of nothing burgers when you can do the same with possible upside guys?..

I would hope the GM has final say and control of who is brought in....sure the collective has input and some sway, and was even said by the organization that Osh had too much sway on things...hopefully that has changed....Any HC will have and should have a standing order of what he wants...and why, but at end of the day it's the G.M's show and he's the architect....and looks like Walter's with some the off-season moves/decisons has taken most of that control back.

I curious and look forward to what Condell may be cooking up and a lineup with that kid..MCI...and Big Kev in multi use roles...and actually used....can be very beneficial....that being said...I doubt we needed to trade up to get him unless Walter's and his scouting team had info from connections and talking to coaches of him that other teams were very interested in him too...which could have been the case....

was stated in media as well that Osh has had too much control...and a lot has been taken back by all accounts....which is a good thing and not just a "bias" against Osh...tho a lot of the negative biases many have with him he rightfully earned

Smaller end zones creates demand for guys like Daniel's particularly as a NAT. He is likely to be utilized as a situational player and w

2 hours ago, Mike said:

What a bizarre stream of posts. You think this pick was entirely Walters driven? Because of a one minute clip?

Walters is the facilitator on draft day as the guy in the GM seat, but to think he just dreamt this up without significant input from the coaching staff is insane. Think about this for one second: we just hired a new OC who has a decent history of using this type of player, we have never sought out this type of player until now and people are suggesting it’s just pure coincidence that we went out and got a guy like Daniels?

I don’t know why people are so dead set on this “it’s gonna be one or the other” thing. They all work together. I have no idea how to feel about the Daniels pick but I know it wasn’t just Walters and the scouts cooking up the bright idea of snagging a tight end. That desire for sure came with a great deal of input from the coaching staff.

What a bizarre, but atypical comment to make. You think you know who or how our drafting is conducted?

Of course, coaches submit wish lists to GM and scouts. After that scouts and GMs conduct their picks according to needs and availability. The point is that even in a one minute video one would have to be oblivious to not see that this was very much a GM and scouts decision. Did MOS have something to add that wasn't in that video? Maybe, but it is nonsense to criticize people for understanding that the one minute video the Bombers released they wanted to send the message that this was KW and the scouts being very high on a guy.

56 minutes ago, CrazyCanuck89 said:

This will be a draft where the fourth round picks will be better than the second.

Pace, Stuart, Parks and Odenwinge all had better tape. The second round guys seem to be alot of, I like that guy's athleticism or size.

I think this is a fair assessment. 2nd round was higher ceiling. 3rd and 4th rounds are where there is a much higher quantity of medium ceiling guys. But much more likely to carve out a role as a depth guy.

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