Per 3downnation, these are our free agents ... basically everyone but Zach, Vaval, Peterson, Clercius, Randolph, Wallace, Pokey Wilson, MCI, Allen, T. Jones, and Leroux the longsnapper.  

Quarterback

Chris Streveler (A)

Running back

Brady Oliveira (N)

Receiver

Kody Case (A)
Nic Demski (N)
Dillon Mitchell (A)
Dalton Schoen (A)
Jerreth Sterns (A)
Keric Wheatfall (A)

OL

Stanley Bryant (A)
Tui Eli (N)
Chris Kolankowski (N)
Eric Lofton (A)
Patrick Neufeld (N)

Defensive line

Willie Jefferson (A)
Cameron Lawson (N)
Tanner Schmekel (N)
Jake Thomas (N)
James Vaughters (A)
Jamal Woods (A)

Linebacker

Tanner Cadwallader (N)
Shayne Gauthier (N)
Kyrie Wilson (A)

Defensive back

Terrell Bonds (A)
Michael Griffin II (A)
Nick Hallett (N)
Evan Holm (A)
Demerio Houston (A)
Redha Kramdi (N)
Enock Makonzo (N)
Deatrick Nichols (A)
Jamal Parker (A)

Specialist

Sergio Castillo (A)
Jamieson Sheahan (G)

Edited November 12, 2025Nov 12 by johnzo

Just now, Booch said:

well apparently they saw some the errors of their ways....or so we were sold, so hopefully thats one of them....cause it crippled us for several yrs running

If I was a betting man I'd say we break camp with ZC...Perkins and Wilson as he is the only guy with any relevant experience.....for that "just in case moment" but how they use the 2 others will be interesting. I think Perkins will be the actual backup and a guy we build some packages around to get him nicely integrated, and Wilson stays as the short yardage guy for most part

That's pretty much how I expect it to go down as well - ZC, Perkins, Wilson with Artopoeus or Thorne on the PR.

Might get interesting if Elgersma does show up at some point though - would they stick him on the PR where he could be poached or would he bump Perkins or Wilson from the AR?

13 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

They would have been better off giving guys like Wilson some reps a season or 2 ago but that's not the MOS way & I don't see that changing now.

I'm talking strictly TC. In season reps is hard to count on. If they're always in close games, you're not going to put a back up in. Hindsight is 20/20 but nothing can be done about that now. Bringing in MBT or any other cast off, will only hurt the guys who are going to camp.

If you watch Perkins in the UFL the offense is basically zone read or a fire drill every snap (there's tons of UFL stuff on YouTube, you can basically find every snap he took). I don't think he'll be able to do much from the pocket in the CFL. The ball doesn't move quick and he never sets his feet so the ball doesn't get anywhere on time or accurate. He's a fadeaway passer, lobs the ball. He is a complete run/scramble style QB. So he's not going to be able to function in an offense anything like the base offense we will be running around a guy like Collaros. But you could build something around him as a backup that relies on Zone Read, either hand it off, run it or chuck it up hope someone runs under it. The intermediate pass game will not exist for him at this level.

55 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

They would have been better off giving guys like Wilson some reps a season or 2 ago but that's not the MOS way & I don't see that changing now.

Wilson got reps, Wilson sucked when given them. Surprised he is still here.

41 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

I'm talking strictly TC. In season reps is hard to count on. If they're always in close games, you're not going to put a back up in. Hindsight is 20/20 but nothing can be done about that now. Bringing in MBT or any other cast off, will only hurt the guys who are going to camp.

Hard to get your 3rd string reps when for the past two seasons we have not been in very many games that is traditional put in your 3rd string guy time. Gotta remember that Streveler also need the reps. Lotsa, he should have got reps posts but very little thought expressed as to when we could have given them.

Where's a stat guy when you need him.

How many meaningful game speed reps has Terry Wilson been given since arriving here? I'm not suggesting anything with this question, just curious.

Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by HardCoreBlue

4 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

MBT wasn't good last year

He'd be an enormous upgrade over Steveler.....thats not saying much but Id kick tires.

50 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Where's a stat guy when you need him.

How many meaningful game speed reps has Terry Wilson been given since arriving here? I'm not suggesting anything with this question, just curious.

According to PFF, 68 snaps last year, 28 drop-back snaps. 24 of his snaps were designed run, keeper, kneel, etc. It also lists him as having 2 "big time" throws and 3 turnover-worthy plays. In 24, he had 6 drop-backs, 24 designed runs, on 40 total snaps with 1 turnover-worthy play.

I don't put any value other than crude entertainment on their own metrics, but as a fun fact, Wilson was their worst rated qb and worst-rated passer in the whole league last year. They had Wilson as a 42.2 overall and 29.9 as a passer vs strevy at 62.2 and 57.4. They only had strev as the 9th-worst passer and 15th worst qb. Which seems wildly inaccurate, and deeply depressing at the same time.

3 minutes ago, Nolby said:

He'd be an enormous upgrade over Steveler.....thats not saying much but Id kick tires.

Im not sure a clear downgrade exists from Hogan, strev, those wrs/ol.

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by wbbfan

54 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Where's a stat guy when you need him.

How many meaningful game speed reps has Terry Wilson been given since arriving here? I'm not suggesting anything with this question, just curious.

Then please compare to every other 3rd string QB, while in 3rd QB status, across the league for context. Just drop backs not SY.

13 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Im not sure a clear downgrade exists from Hogan, strev, those wrs/ol.

Jason Boltus... that was the lowest that I can ever remember. Guy fumbled snaps and tossed ints in his extremely limited time.

10 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Then please compare to every other 3rd string QB, while in 3rd QB status, across the league for context. Just drop backs not SY.

Sure. These are the drop-back snaps for QBs who were the QB3 overall or at some point.

BC, Masoli had 91, Brice had 4.

Cal, walker 66, vaughn 32, love 8

Edm, snider 0

Ham, Dole 0, powell 9

Mtl, Morgan 98, Evans 37, Dukes 2

Ott, Adams 69, Shiltz 57

Sask, Coan 9

To, Duggan 20, Horn 14

Again, Wilson had 26.

6 minutes ago, Brandon said:

Jason Boltus... that was the lowest that I can ever remember. Guy fumbled snaps and tossed ints in his extremely limited time.

Pretty bad for sure. Bellefeuille was a chunk better than hogan still imo. Wr core, bit of a push imo.

31 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Sure. These are the drop-back snaps for QBs who were the QB3 overall or at some point.

BC, Masoli had 91, Brice had 4.

Cal, walker 66, vaughn 32, love 8

Edm, snider 0

Ham, Dole 0, powell 9

Mtl, Morgan 98, Evans 37, Dukes 2

Ott, Adams 69, Shiltz 57

Sask, Coan 9

To, Duggan 20, Horn 14

Again, Wilson had 26.

Pretty bad for sure. Bellefeuille was a chunk better than hogan still imo. Wr core, bit of a push imo.

Thanks Wbb, so what we are seeing is that the Bombers QB 3rd string usage, except for QBs playing up the depth chart due to injury, is actually right on pace with the rest of the league. A couple of outliers in Walker and Morgan who both ended up in 2nd string and made starts prior to any drop back snaps so it really was more a case of a couple guys who either weren't really third string (Walker) and another who was on a team with a rash of QB injuries. Rest of the numbers are all within the same relative range as Wilson.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by GCn20

11 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Sure. These are the drop-back snaps for QBs who were the QB3 overall or at some point.

BC, Masoli had 91, Brice had 4.

Cal, walker 66, vaughn 32, love 8

Edm, snider 0

Ham, Dole 0, powell 9

Mtl, Morgan 98, Evans 37, Dukes 2

Ott, Adams 69, Shiltz 57

Sask, Coan 9

To, Duggan 20, Horn 14

Again, Wilson had 26.

Pretty bad for sure. Bellefeuille was a chunk better than hogan still imo. Wr core, bit of a push imo.

Regardless of who takes our #2 spot this coming season, my hope is MOS and company have a little less anxiety in using QB2 when/if ZC consistently struggles during the game.

10 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Regardless of who takes our #2 spot this coming season, my hope is MOS and company have a little less anxiety in using QB2 when/if ZC consistently struggles during the game.

Or in swapping if we are late in a blow out

9 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Or in swapping if we are late in a blow out

For sure, our #2 reps are going to have to be paramount if we go with a rookie, last year they were paramount with Strev because he was struggling and that unfortunately probably kept Wilson off the field.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by GCn20

2 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

If you watch Perkins in the UFL the offense is basically zone read or a fire drill every snap (there's tons of UFL stuff on YouTube, you can basically find every snap he took). I don't think he'll be able to do much from the pocket in the CFL. The ball doesn't move quick and he never sets his feet so the ball doesn't get anywhere on time or accurate. He's a fadeaway passer, lobs the ball. He is a complete run/scramble style QB. So he's not going to be able to function in an offense anything like the base offense we will be running around a guy like Collaros. But you could build something around him as a backup that relies on Zone Read, either hand it off, run it or chuck it up hope someone runs under it. The intermediate pass game will not exist for him at this level.

His highlights remind me a lot of what Streveler looked like pre injury but maybe not quite as quick. He has a great ability to escape from pressure but he doesn’t look comfortable at all in the pocket.

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

According to PFF, 68 snaps last year, 28 drop-back snaps. 24 of his snaps were designed run, keeper, kneel, etc. It also lists him as having 2 "big time" throws and 3 turnover-worthy plays. In 24, he had 6 drop-backs, 24 designed runs, on 40 total snaps with 1 turnover-worthy play.

I don't put any value other than crude entertainment on their own metrics, but as a fun fact, Wilson was their worst rated qb and worst-rated passer in the whole league last year. They had Wilson as a 42.2 overall and 29.9 as a passer vs strevy at 62.2 and 57.4. They only had strev as the 9th-worst passer and 15th worst qb. Which seems wildly inaccurate, and deeply depressing at the same time.

I wonder how what his snap count would have been if Strevy doesn't blow out his knee? The only game Wilson saw action beyond short yardage was the last game of the regular season when ZC was sitting and then Strevy went down early. Took a worst case scenario to see what he could do (to be expected for QB3 though) and what we saw wasn't good.

55 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Regardless of who takes our #2 spot this coming season, my hope is MOS and company have a little less anxiety in using QB2 when/if ZC consistently struggles during the game.

that would be a big surprise to see. Dude lets players play through their struggles and doesn't even like to take out Collaros when the Bombers are on the good side of a blowout.

Not pulling struggling Zach doesn't bother me so much -- Zach's upside is far far far greater than that of a Terry Wilson or even a Streveler. Multiple times over his career he's gone from zero in one quarter to hero in another. If it was someone like Taylor Powell or MBT or Brown on the bench behind Zach, someone who's proven he belongs in the CFL, I might feel different.

So unless MOS abruptly changes his ways, only a ZC8 injury will result in significant backup reps.

Zach has been actually been pretty durable the past few years -- started all 18 games in 2022-2024 and started 13 last year, and one of his missed games was the BS piss test one.

Edited 37 minutes ago37 min by johnzo

29 minutes ago, johnzo said:

that would be a big surprise to see. Dude lets players play through their struggles and doesn't even like to take out Collaros when the Bombers are on the good side of a blowout.

Not pulling struggling Zach doesn't bother me so much -- Zach's upside is far far far greater than that of a Terry Wilson or even a Streveler. Multiple times over his career he's gone from zero in one quarter to hero in another. If it was someone like Taylor Powell or MBT or Brown on the bench behind Zach, someone who's proven he belongs in the CFL, I might feel different.

So unless MOS abruptly changes his ways, only a ZC8 injury will result in significant backup reps.

Zach has been actually been pretty durable the past few years -- started all 18 games in 2022-2024 and started 13 last year, and one of his missed games was the BS piss test one.

See this is where I think this approach is more complicated than meets the eye and I don't necssarily agree ZC given full reign no matter what trumps all of the other benefits of changing things up. Yes of course your #1 guy is your #1 guy and needs to know that by giving him tons of rope to works things out when he needs to. However in the same breath, a coach also may need to make some tough decisions at certain points in the game if he's not progressing thru his struggles (not someone else's struggles, his struggles) and give the 2nd QB a few reps so he can maybe see the game from a different view, give him some time to collect his thoughts, have a chat with the QB coach whatever he needs to do to reset. I think it's finding that balance of ZC knowing he's the man with we are good to go if we need to change things up to get us back into the game.