ESF Bombers @ Als - Early Chat

[Noeller]

So as of right now, next Saturday is supposed to be Rain and +9 in Montreal. Not ideal but maybe takes away the Montreal passing attack a little bit...?

[Booch]

46 minutes ago, Noeller said:

So as of right now, next Saturday is supposed to be Rain and +9 in Montreal. Not ideal but maybe takes away the Montreal passing attack a little bit...?

crap weather definitely would benefit us....that being said Scott can be a real work horse and problem on the ground if we see lots of Jake inside...need the active/athletic dline guys for majority if that's the case it becomes a ground and pound contest....Guys like Woods and Lawson who can be engaged and get off blocks to make a play...or divert it to others...not Jake being stood up in place...spun around...or just washed to the side...even his one minimal skill...and minimal at that...his straight ahead push amounts to nothing because he can't do anything off it....and if works past the ball carrier...zero backside pursuit ability

[HardCoreBlue]

4 minutes ago, Booch said:

crap weather definitely would benefit us....that being said Scott can be a real work horse and problem on the ground if we see lots of Jake inside...need the active/athletic dline guys for majority if that's the case it becomes a ground and pound contest....Guys like Woods and Lawson who can be engaged and get off blocks to make a play...or divert it to others...not Jake being stood up in place...spun around...or just washed to the side...even his one minimal skill...and minimal at that...his straight ahead push amounts to nothing because he can't do anything off it....and if works past the ball carrier...zero backside pursuit ability

It might be an obvious answer to some but where should the eyes of an interior lineman be as he bull rushes ahead? 

[Booch]

well firstly on the QB and where the RB is...or motion he showing....you dont know where ball is...or likely to go...bull rushing straight ahead with does you no real good, especially if the lineman just engages you and lets you do it knowing that it will be ineffective

A lot of Jakes problems is he has zero technical skill....hand fighting skills....and cant get off a block to make a play...just last game alone look how many times Woods was engaged and fought off the block to make the play...get in on making it with others, or just disrupting it...Lawson too...Lawson camm bull rush then toss away his lineman and make a play...Jake cant....for yrs now if ever

[M.O.A.B.]

Bombers should pickup Cameron Duke

[ShyGuy]

What is the status of the Als roster right now?

Seemed like during the game every second play they were taking an injury timeout. Hard to judge injuries from inside the stands though

[Noeller]

8 hours ago, ShyGuy said:

What is the status of the Als roster right now?

Seemed like during the game every second play they were taking an injury timeout. Hard to judge injuries from inside the stands though

On TV, it seemed like they had a number of injuries. Likely won't know more until practice resumes this week...

[ShyGuy]

20 minutes ago, Noeller said:

On TV, it seemed like they had a number of injuries. Likely won't know more until practice resumes this week...

https://3downnation.com/2025/10/26/montreal-alouettes-lose-game-key-players-before-playoff-rematch-with-bombers-seven-thoughts/

 

Quote

When the Als took the field on Saturday, they hoped for only one thing: to head back home with all the soldiers healthy. It didn’t happen as defensive tackle Mustafa Johnson, defensive end Lwal Uguak, offensive lineman Jesse Gibson, and running back Stevie Scott III all had to leave with apparent injuries.

So a few key players didn't finish the game, I imagine anyone who picked up a ding no matter how minor probably got to ride pine though

[Pete]

9 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said:

Bombers should pickup Cameron Duke

YeAh he could be a good practice qb,as long as we never have to play him,  but seriously we need a competent 2 string with starting potential , a short ydge one and a developmental pr qb.

Atropolis may fit pr one, but the other 2 need to be added. That is without looking at starting qb

Next yrs qb room should be significantly different 

 

[GCn20]

If Jenkins isn't dressed you can sign me up to the fire MOS crowd. Guy had a whale of a game this week and just looks explosive off the line. Really could be an X factor just in time for the playoffs.

[do or die]

4 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

If Jenkins isn't dressed you can sign me up to the fire MOS crowd. Guy had a whale of a game this week and just looks explosive off the line. Really could be an X factor just in time for the playoffs.

Agree.....but my biggest fear is that MOS will just round up the usually suspects.....

[Booch]

8 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

If Jenkins isn't dressed you can sign me up to the fire MOS crowd. Guy had a whale of a game this week and just looks explosive off the line. Really could be an X factor just in time for the playoffs.

yup...fresh legs too at the right time....He offers us a nice combo of what we been lacking...Same can be aid for Bailey as well...he showed a lot...and offers valuable defensive reps to keep the old farts fresher...and can play teams...and...he's fresh too

3 minutes ago, do or die said:

Agree.....but my biggest fear is that MOS will just round up the usually suspects.....

I also am worried he plays a not ready Demski as well...cause I not sure he gonna be totally healthy and with a hammy...one lil tweak again and he's done....with how Smith played on defence...Lawson...Kramdi likely back..we can delegate 2 Canadians for atria on defence and technically not have to have 2 Canadian receivers.....we seen how this dance has gone before playing not healthy recievers in playoffs and it screwed us royally

Run out a Wheatfall...Echols...Pokey..Clercius...Stearns unit ...heavy use of BO and sprinkle in some dual backfield sets with Peterson...even MCI and trust in them to get to the EF with a "healthier" Demski

[bearpants]

17 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

If Jenkins isn't dressed you can sign me up to the fire MOS crowd. Guy had a whale of a game this week and just looks explosive off the line. Really could be an X factor just in time for the playoffs.

I think our only hope might be that he's displaced Person... but I imagine we'll still see a large helping of Willie and Vaughnters... and don't forget Thomas on 90% of snaps...

[Booch]

4 minutes ago, bearpants said:

I think our only hope might be that he's displaced Person... but I imagine we'll still see a large helping of Willie and Vaughnters... and don't forget Thomas on 90% of snaps...

Dumping Thomas for Bailey would make us a better team if Osh doesnt want to drop one of Ball or Corcorran who do nothing for us really ...Cobb has way more value than Corcorran and we have big bodies in MCI and Clercius to use in a blocker role that they put Corcorran out there for...and is not good at...so him on roster is a waste...Dress Vibert again...hate to have 2 lineman go down in a playoff game and then have to have JT sucking on the oline too

[Tracker]

I hate that we are at the mercy of a rigidly stubborn head coach who  has repeatedly chosen to stroke his ego rather than make the best choices for the team. Frustrating.

[GCn20]

2 hours ago, Booch said:

yup...fresh legs too at the right time....He offers us a nice combo of what we been lacking...Same can be aid for Bailey as well...he showed a lot...and offers valuable defensive reps to keep the old farts fresher...and can play teams...and...he's fresh too

I also am worried he plays a not ready Demski as well...cause I not sure he gonna be totally healthy and with a hammy...one lil tweak again and he's done....with how Smith played on defence...Lawson...Kramdi likely back..we can delegate 2 Canadians for atria on defence and technically not have to have 2 Canadian receivers.....we seen how this dance has gone before playing not healthy recievers in playoffs and it screwed us royally

Run out a Wheatfall...Echols...Pokey..Clercius...Stearns unit ...heavy use of BO and sprinkle in some dual backfield sets with Peterson...even MCI and trust in them to get to the EF with a "healthier" Demski

If he were some kid fresh out of the NCAA, maybe one would have to wonder if maybe he just had one of those games where everything went right and that he might not be able to sustain. However, he isn't. This is a kid with NFL pedigree, that showed an amazing ability to quickly adapt to the yard off the ball. He is legit talent and showed it. That is why I think it's a no-brainer he at least gets the nod over Person. He had probably the 2nd best performance of any DE we've had this season.

we've had other rookies the past couple years show some ability at DE but were also non factors for much of and many of the games. This kid not only got home with sacks, but noticeably disrupted on most of his reps. Legit.

Edited 1 hour ago by GCn20

[rebusrankin]

I agree that Jenkins for Person is an easy swap. Bailey for one of our depth Canadians would also be a good choice.

[Booch]

17 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

If he were some kid fresh out of the NCAA, maybe one would have to wonder if maybe he just had one of those games where everything went right and that he might not be able to sustain. However, he isn't. This is a kid with NFL pedigree, that showed an amazing ability to quickly adapt to the yard off the ball. He is legit talent and showed it. That is why I think it's a no-brainer he at least gets the nod over Person. He had probably the 2nd best performance of any DE we've had this season.

we've had other rookies the past couple years show some ability at DE but were also non factors for much of and many of the games. This kid not only got home with sacks, but noticeably disrupted on most of his reps. Legit.

I agree...as much as I like Person and believe he gonna be good....Jenkins is more CFL ready...that being said him...Jenkins and Jaworski will all be solid guys for tc next yr and all could be on the roster in my opinion

He showed polished technique and ability already....the one where he faked a bullrush and with speed and agility cur underneath the tackle and came fee for a shot on the QB...you dont see that oftem....especially out of a rookie...he's got some serious chops

Bailey as well...he showed power moves...was wicked fast off the edge...and he got clean shots on Q.B onmore than one occasion....and as we saw....is more than capable on ST's....we need some speed/power guys....and that in itself may get our Gray beards on end to play with more spunk

[WinnipegGordo]

45 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

I agree that Jenkins for Person is an easy swap. Bailey for one of our depth Canadians would also be a good choice.

Especially since Bailey demonstrated that he can contribute to special teams.

[GCn20]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

I agree...as much as I like Person and believe he gonna be good....Jenkins is more CFL ready...that being said him...Jenkins and Jaworski will all be solid guys for tc next yr and all could be on the roster in my opinion

He showed polished technique and ability already....the one where he faked a bullrush and with speed and agility cur underneath the tackle and came fee for a shot on the QB...you dont see that oftem....especially out of a rookie...he's got some serious chops

Bailey as well...he showed power moves...was wicked fast off the edge...and he got clean shots on Q.B onmore than one occasion....and as we saw....is more than capable on ST's....we need some speed/power guys....and that in itself may get our Gray beards on end to play with more spunk

It's good to finally have good options to spell off our grey beards. Hopefully we dress them. I can understand the difficulty though, because whoever we put on the PR to make room could very well be FA's so we must choose carefully. Can't expose any of our young NAT talent to get them on board. Mind you there is always the 1 game IR, certainly we must have the cap room to do that.

Edited 21 minutes ago by GCn20

[3rdand1.5]

I too would like to see Jenkins for Person, and Baily for a depth Canuck.....I really like Allen and Holm, Housten, Nichols, Parker with Lawson backing up, I do like our LB core, Griffen and Woodsby both have impressed me, and although one could argue the two Canucks should have had more reps, they do seem to form solid depth, If a rested Willy can find his form, with Jake, Lawson, Woods rotating in between him and Vaughters with Baily and Jenkins actually rotating I believe the D-line will be decent. Overall. I am not concerned about the defence, especially if we have at least a bit of rotation along the D-line......I like our specials, I think we have an advantage on that 3rd over Mtrl.

 

It's all the offence that scares me......save two games they have been utterly terrible this year....and I mean terrible, look at the ints. this year.... we won a game with what 9 passes...and are going into teh playoffs with two completely putrid offensive games back to back.... any one of the three qbs we have played at times have a D player in their face almost instantly...and can't find open receivers...it can't be all three...it has to be routes and schemes...., heck week 18 we saw a guy come clean through the A gap......untouched.....our deep ball is virtually nonexistent...at least to our own team that is.... we forget to manage the clock and seem to have little to no comprehension of situational awareness, we appear to gamble when we should play safe and play safe when we should gamble, save for one game we have not seemed to build on plays throughout the game to get into a rhythm....I don't have the yardage stats, but we must have the worst flats passing attack in the league...false starts, offsides, no ends like it were preseason most of the year...I could go on but I don't want to be too depressing.....

 

IF our offence even plays a decent game, like 200 yards passing, no turnovers avoids avoidable penalties and uses our run game, we will win with the defence and special teams we have...we can and I dare say "should" with our experience win this game...but the offence at least needs to show up and protect the ball.......This year though that is a tough ask 

[Booch]

3 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

It's good to finally have good options to spell off our grey beards. Hopefully we dress them. I can understand the difficulty though, because whoever we put on the PR to make room could very well be FA's so we must choose carefully. Can't expose any of our young NAT talent to get them on board. Mind you there is always the 1 game IR, certainly we must have the cap room to do that.

We can IR them on 1 game can we not? And yeah we must have cap room with schoen..makonzo..Logan all off books extended time...

Wonder if we see Smith get a good amount of reps again...he played very well...and the more reps...the better and quicker the development.. Ayers too...got to actually play his natural position and made plays..sucks it took Osh 18 games to get guys reps..

[Booch]

1 minute ago, 3rdand1.5 said:

I too would like to see Jenkins for Person, and Baily for a depth Canuck.....I really like Allen and Holm, Housten, Nichols, Parker with Lawson backing up, I do like our LB core, Griffen and Woodsby both have impressed me, and although one could argue the two Canucks should have had more reps, they do seem to form solid depth, If a rested Willy can find his form, with Jake, Lawson, Woods rotating in between him and Vaughters with Baily and Jenkins actually rotating I believe the D-line will be decent. Overall. I am not concerned about the defence, especially if we have at least a bit of rotation along the D-line......I like our specials, I think we have an advantage on that 3rd over Mtrl.

 

It's all the offence that scares me......save two games they have been utterly terrible this year....and I mean terrible, look at the ints. this year.... we won a game with what 9 passes...and are going into teh playoffs with two completely putrid offensive games back to back.... any one of the three qbs we have played at times have a D player in their face almost instantly...and can't find open receivers...it can't be all three...it has to be routes and schemes...., heck week 18 we saw a guy come clean through the A gap......untouched.....our deep ball is virtually nonexistent...at least to our own team that is.... we forget to manage the clock and seem to have little to no comprehension of situational awareness, we appear to gamble when we should play safe and play safe when we should gamble, save for one game we have not seemed to build on plays throughout the game to get into a rhythm....I don't have the yardage stats, but we must have the worst flats passing attack in the league...false starts, offsides, no ends like it were preseason most of the year...I could go on but I don't want to be too depressing.....

 

IF our offence even plays a decent game, like 200 yards passing, no turnovers avoids avoidable penalties and uses our run game, we will win with the defence and special teams we have...we can and I dare say "should" with our experience win this game...but the offence at least needs to show up and protect the ball.......This year though that is a tough ask 

Yeah...I not really concerned with the defense...they showed all yr they can be really good...and as we seen with proper use of guys...more than really good

Offense tho...ooooeee...Oc guy is our weakness there...hopefully Osh has the sense to lean on Jackson a bit more and maybe have more say in the gameplan...and if he hurts lil oc guy feelings oh well...

Gotta keep ZC clean and minimize risk of him getting smacked around...so if its a quick hitter game..lotsa run type plays like we saw vs Hamilton...that go a long way in how successful we are..I'm quite concerned with Demski tho..and if he not legit 100 percent he shouldn't be playing with a hammy issue...past history makes me cringe we dress a gimp...and then just handcuff ourselves 

[WinnipegGordo]

Don't have to be concerned with cap room as SMS stops at the end of the regular season.

Normally the only guys left on the practice roster are players that the Bombers are willing to let walk. Otherwise they will be 1 gamed.

 

 

[3rdand1.5]

6 minutes ago, Booch said:

Yeah...I not really concerned with the defense...they showed all yr they can be really good...and as we seen with proper use of guys...more than really good

Offense tho...ooooeee...Oc guy is our weakness there...hopefully Osh has the sense to lean on Jackson a bit more and maybe have more say in the gameplan...and if he hurts lil oc guy feelings oh well...

Gotta keep ZC clean and minimize risk of him getting smacked around...so if its a quick hitter game..lotsa run type plays like we saw vs Hamilton...that go a long way in how successful we are..I'm quite concerned with Demski tho..and if he not legit 100 percent he shouldn't be playing with a hammy issue...past history makes me cringe we dress a gimp...and then just handcuff ourselves 

Yes, our past history with injured guys in the playoffs is questionable.......

 

I also forgot to add the best part of the game is ....NO MORE AIR HORNS.... that was the best single change the league did all year.....