GDT- Bombers @ Toronto

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30 minutes ago, BomberBall. said:

I know what you’re saying about Zach’s 2nd pick not being his fault, it was a crazy sequence of bounces that were very unlucky, but he caused that by throwing high to an open receiver.  An easy throw that he needs to make.

I think Streveler has the tools, but I feel like someone needs to correct his mechanics…. I can’t think of many throws last night that he actually stepped into.  He’s almost always throwing flat footed or off his back foot.  He has a great arm, but he could make more throws on time if he got back to his fundamentals.

Streveler's awkward throwing while rolling out may not have been completely his fault. The Bomber o-line was being overrun and either he or Jackson may have decided that staying in the pocket and getting set was not a good idea.

3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

That kind of decision making has been common the past few years & really, if things don't improve by September then heads should roll at the end of the season. Walters hasn't signed a new deal & he shouldn't be renewed. A new GM would decide if Osh kept his job. 

If any incoming GM who replaces Walters re-ups O'Shea, that would be a very bad omen.

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11 hours ago, sweep the leg said:

Schoen getting healthy and Wilson coming back from the NFL would be two pretty big in-season improvements to the group. 

I have no confidence that schoen will be close to 100% this year. He’s back on the 6 after the first third. If we got insanely lucky and made the gc maybe he’s close for that game with a reasonable amount of rust off. 
 Short of some thing miraculous he shouldn’t be rushed to play and when he comes back should be eased in real slow if at all this year.
 We can’t afford to ruin him.  

51 minutes ago, Concept2 said:

I wonder if Miller and O’Shea would entertain a trade? Riders have a surplus of receivers (Bane and KSB returning soon). Bombers could send a O-lineman in return? Just spitballing here. 
Hope ZC gets back to good health, a little concerning seeing him out with his concussion history. 

I don’t think we’d give up the kind of ol they’d want for value, I’m not even sure they’d want our guys. 
 I wouldn’t give up Wallace or the rights to manu in that situation. I don’t think Eli moves the needle for them, don’t think they’d take kola or neuf on age and health/badness. They let Lofton go last time. I don’t see rando or vanterpool creating value either.

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10 hours ago, Brandon said:

So how did Zach and Strev play? Was the o line the issue again?

 

The first just under half of the game was extremely sloppy conditions. A lot of struggling to keep the ball, and guys slipping on both sides. 
 Toronto was hitting us with big plays from the first drive though and it felt like we couldn’t do the same. 

Brady was running hard and picked up a few firsts on first down. But we didn’t stick with the run. We ended up in 2nd and long all night. Which left both QBs struggling to keep drives going. 
 

The secondary was shredded early and often, though the front played its best game of the year. The secondary, was also as soft as I’ve seen it in years. No one wants to hit, no one wants to form tackle, no gang tackling.
 Seems like we finally rotated the ends more, and when we had Lawson/adams in with person, we got pressure pretty regularly. Vaughters had his best game, Wj too. But our blitz scheme worked a lot better as well. Jones had a big night behind the line and made a great hit on a wr coming way way back to get into a play down field. 
 Bridges was taken out with no injury report, or visible on field injury. Sounds like Jy finally pulled his ass for vaval. Who was still playing too deep but tackled a bit better and wasn’t getting stomped over the top. 
 The Argos size at wr loomed large over our dbs all night. Griffin is the only guy who played with a bit of grit back there. Holms never been physical but now every one else has sunk to that level and lower. Parker couldn’t keep his feet all night and continues to struggle to get over on any deep guy. The experiment with him at S should be over.
 

ol early was giving up a good bit of pressure and hits. Good gaps on one play then nothing the next. Rando was lost and whipped a few times. Neuf and kola struggled especially kola of course. Wallace was solid and it was probably vanterpools best game at T. Not good enough yet but improvement. 
 

Janarion Grant throw a pass on the first drive and it went for 40 and change. Zach didn’t surpass that till the final 3 minutes of the half. He hit one good pass for 40+. The rest of his play was junk. The start was a hot mess for every one, but after a bad luck bounce pick he spiraled and threw a bad pick again. 
 Zach didn’t come out at half until after our first drive started, and then didn’t have gear on. No word on the injury, he did take a couple hard hits, but he was bad from the get go. 
 Strevy was significantly better, I think it would’ve been a close game if he started and played the whole night. 
 Hogans game plan wasn’t nearly good enough across the board. We had a couple decent wrinkles late but it was vs prevent. We don’t go hurry up till like 2 minutes in the game remaining. If we had gone to it with 5, we could’ve made it close. 
 Strevy moved around well, threw on the run well, threw some nice passes and a couple not great locations. 
 

The wr core was brutal. Demski got banged up late and Corcoran looks decent, good hands decent routes. But aside from the one big pass, the Argos kept our WRs in front of them all night with ease. Sterns played decent but was being fed the ball a lot and could’ve done more. 
 

Both kr struggled a lot especially vaval, but no one was going any place fast. 

Sheahan had another solid night punting, hasn’t shanked in a while. He ran a fake and sidelined out trying to dive and reach but was way too late. It was a pretty bad punt fake for a guy who’s supposed to be an athlete.  

[Slimy Sculpin]

Have to admit that I uttered a few f-sharps at the TV while watching the Bombers blow up last evening. A few observations:

I checked the TO weather forecast before the game and the rain was predicted. The way the team was playing it looked like the were not prepared for the conditions. Vaval carrying the rock like he thought he was the Lincoln Locomotive. He's not and the resultant fumble is not just on him but on the ST coach for not pounding "protect the ball" into his head. The D-backs were playing too far off the receivers resulting in, well, a lot of Argo receptions. And, to me it looked like the Bomber defenders weren't wearing the right footwear for the soggy, real grass field. Too far off and a lot of slip sliding away. A lack of preparedness?

Kolankowki has got to make sure that he has a grip on the ball.

Parker, although he was slipping a lot, was still starting off in the wrong position. Too often he was moving away from the play so he wasn't much of a back up. I realize that he's a pretty good tackler but I think that S is not his position. Do we have anyone taller who might be able to step in? Given what's happening at the corners, can Parker slot in one of those spots.

Tony Jones is not the answer in the middle of the LB corps. I think that he's too slow as is Kramdi, who also has developed a case of tackle-itis. The other Jones....Jon, is stagnating on the "one-game" IR. Surely, he can be fit into the starting lineup at one of the LB spots.

The D-line played better last night. I think that there was more rotation going on. It took six games for the coaches to figure that out?

I feel badly for Case as that may be a season ending injury. However, perhaps a guy like Mitchell can now slot in. He was a solid player for Edmonton and aside from being a sure-handed receiver he's also a reasonable kick/punt returner. And, what's the deal with Logan, also on the one-game IR since the season started.

Sure the O-line wasn't at their best but, to me, it seems that Collaros is "too slow" and Streveler "too fast". Collaros can't get the ball out fast enough and Streveler is too fast to abandon the pocket. And, what's with all of his cross-the-body throws?

There's more but I'll leave it at that.

End of rant.

P.S. If the fans can see the flaws in the Bombers, I'm thinking that Miller does, too. Is it time for him the call an all staff (coaches) meeting?