3 stars plus HH bc sucks series win

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, Noeller said:

Was sacked at least once and rushed a few times. I think JBRs point (and forgive me if I'm wrong here) is that maybe Zach needs better than "adequate time" in the pocket to be lethal. I still believe he has the ability... But he needs more around him than he did in 2022 when he lit the world on fire. Now, you can have the debate about "he's making too much money to need that much help" debate all you want, but the point remains... He needs a very specific set of tools to be truly successful.

Considering bc has a good talented dl, I think the pass pro was far better than adequate. You just don’t get games with no hits no pressures on a regular basis. 
 

Also, some of his worst throws came with time and a clean pocket. I don’t think a better performance by the ok would’ve changed any thing. He chucked ducks with lots of time and open guys. 
 

No one’s throwing the ball down field on the regular when the wr is already 40 yards out. You’d need to be throwing 70yards down field to hit a guy in stride with the ball out of your hand at a target 40 yards down field. 
 3-4 seconds is what you aim for, but’s that’s ball out at 20 ish yards and including stepping up and getting it out. 
 If you watch the advanced feed from tsn, they show the pocket time on the snaps. Zach had lots of 3-4 second pockets, and wasn’t seeing pressure in less than 2.5. 

[Mark H.]

Bottom line: pass pro was better last week.

[wbbfan]

7 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

Bottom line: pass pro was better last week.

Yes, though it’s also important to note strevy was getting the ball out much quicker. 

[Piggy 1]

1 hour ago, Mark H. said:

Bottom line: pass pro was better last week.

Lets see what happens 2 weeks in a row. 

[Mark H.]

43 minutes ago, Piggy 1 said:

Lets see what happens 2 weeks in a row. 

Agreed. Vanterpool did come out of camp starting at that position. We shall see how things unfold.

[Brandon]

5 hours ago, Mark H. said:

Bottom line: pass pro was better last week.

Bottom line:  QB play was better last week 

[Booch]

10 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Considering bc has a good talented dl, I think the pass pro was far better than adequate. You just don’t get games with no hits no pressures on a regular basis. 
 

Also, some of his worst throws came with time and a clean pocket. I don’t think a better performance by the ok would’ve changed any thing. He chucked ducks with lots of time and open guys. 
 

No one’s throwing the ball down field on the regular when the wr is already 40 yards out. You’d need to be throwing 70yards down field to hit a guy in stride with the ball out of your hand at a target 40 yards down field. 
 3-4 seconds is what you aim for, but’s that’s ball out at 20 ish yards and including stepping up and getting it out. 
 If you watch the advanced feed from tsn, they show the pocket time on the snaps. Zach had lots of 3-4 second pockets, and wasn’t seeing pressure in less than 2.5. 

ZC has picked up a bad habit of when getting panicked or pressure starts to get a lil chaotic of just chucking it.....and not away but into trouble....and or for picks

And seeing as he is reluctant to run....and reams know it they put the pressure on. He used to able to navigate the pocket more and buy time without running, but last 2 yrs he has seemed to have lost that knack..