wbbfan Posted yesterday at 08:06 PM Report Posted yesterday at 08:06 PM 2 hours ago, Mark H. said: I find the quality of American OL being brought in especially disappointing. Bryant, Bond and Hardrick in their prime - those were the days. vanterpool isn’t bond at guard, but he’s not far off. Randolph is good at RT, a lot better than early hardrick was. Them and lofton aren’t bad, and not the weak spot on our ol that’s for sure. if we went forward with them as starters our ol would improve. problem is really the rest of the old guard. wallace is developing too, and a bit better than what we stuck with in gray, dobson etc prior. Booch 1
Mark H. Posted yesterday at 08:43 PM Report Posted yesterday at 08:43 PM 34 minutes ago, wbbfan said: vanterpool isn’t bond at guard, but he’s not far off. Randolph is good at RT, a lot better than early hardrick was. Them and lofton aren’t bad, and not the weak spot on our ol that’s for sure. if we went forward with them as starters our ol would improve. problem is really the rest of the old guard. wallace is developing too, and a bit better than what we stuck with in gray, dobson etc prior. I guess my thinking is, with 3 Americans starting, they should dominate. I do agree they would improve if all 3 started consistently. Tracker, BigBlueFanatic and wbbfan 3
Booch Posted yesterday at 08:59 PM Report Posted yesterday at 08:59 PM 50 minutes ago, wbbfan said: vanterpool isn’t bond at guard, but he’s not far off. Randolph is good at RT, a lot better than early hardrick was. Them and lofton aren’t bad, and not the weak spot on our ol that’s for sure. if we went forward with them as starters our ol would improve. problem is really the rest of the old guard. wallace is developing too, and a bit better than what we stuck with in gray, dobson etc prior. Yeah hardrick was on way out of league when we grabbed him off the scrap pile Was a turnstile...no wind...fat...bad footwork...from being way to fat We saved his career with good coaching 15 minutes ago, Mark H. said: I guess my thinking is, with 3 Americans starting, they should dominate. I do agree they would improve if all 3 started consistently. 3 at interior dline...u generally have more success than not Save for the odd prime Laurent type...which is rare wbbfan and Mark H. 2
BigBlueFanatic Posted 23 hours ago Report Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, Mark H. said: I guess my thinking is, with 3 Americans starting, they should dominate. I do agree they would improve if all 3 started consistently. They would all improve without the embarrassment of a turnstile we have at center… wbbfan, Mark H., Blue28 and 1 other 4
Booch Posted 23 hours ago Report Posted 23 hours ago 1 minute ago, BigBlueFanatic said: They would all improve without the embarrassment of a turnstile we have at center… 100 percent...110 percent Blue28, wbbfan and BigBlueFanatic 3
wbbfan Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago 3 hours ago, Mark H. said: I guess my thinking is, with 3 Americans starting, they should dominate. I do agree they would improve if all 3 started consistently. you’re right. though it does take time with the same unit to get them to that point. and we see changes every other week. 3 hours ago, Booch said: Yeah hardrick was on way out of league when we grabbed him off the scrap pile Was a turnstile...no wind...fat...bad footwork...from being way to fat We saved his career with good coaching 3 at interior dline...u generally have more success than not Save for the odd prime Laurent type...which is rare On that note, big props to yoshi for pulling his career off the scrap heap for a second time. he looks worlds better than the last 2-3 years here. Dobson too. dude is finally down to where he should be weight wise and not struggling to adjust to being lighter. We are like that bf that gets dumped then his exs become hot. The former bombers list of ol around the league would be the best ol in the league. If we finally jettisoned kola and either started wallace or eli, then ran with the 3 imps our ol would improve a lot. Booch, Tracker, JohnnyAbonny and 1 other 4
Booch Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, wbbfan said: you’re right. though it does take time with the same unit to get them to that point. and we see changes every other week. On that note, big props to yoshi for pulling his career off the scrap heap for a second time. he looks worlds better than the last 2-3 years here. Dobson too. dude is finally down to where he should be weight wise and not struggling to adjust to being lighter. We are like that bf that gets dumped then his exs become hot. The former bombers list of ol around the league would be the best ol in the league. If we finally jettisoned kola and either started wallace or eli, then ran with the 3 imps our ol would improve a lot. Magloster (sp) in mtl is damn good...Desjarlais...Couture...wasn't Broxton here too for a look? Look at kongbo...Rene...Fox...gave up on em all and all would look good here right now JohnnyAbonny and wbbfan 2
wbbfan Posted 19 hours ago Report Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, Booch said: Magloster (sp) in mtl is damn good...Desjarlais...Couture...wasn't Broxton here too for a look? Look at kongbo...Rene...Fox...gave up on em all and all would look good here right now Yeah, broxton was here for a bit. Plus dobson who is killing it this year. Yeah, I dont see a lot of teams pursuing our FAs this year though. hope fully we go back into buy/build mode. Piggy 1, Booch and Noeller 2 1
Booch Posted 19 hours ago Report Posted 19 hours ago 5 minutes ago, wbbfan said: Yeah, broxton was here for a bit. Plus dobson who is killing it this year. Yeah, I dont see a lot of teams pursuing our FAs this year though. hope fully we go back into buy/build mode. Yeah...imagine...signed Dobson...dumped Kolo and his salary...figured out the best 3 to start out of neuf..Dobson.. Eli.. Wallace...all 4 really could essentially be your center...we'd be worlds better Piggy 1, wpgallday1960 and wbbfan 2 1
Noeller Posted 17 hours ago Report Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, wbbfan said: Yeah, broxton was here for a bit. Plus dobson who is killing it this year. Yeah, I dont see a lot of teams pursuing our FAs this year though. hope fully we go back into buy/build mode. I'm really hoping we go full spend mode this offseason... Buy as much as you can on th OL/DL... wbbfan and wpgallday1960 2
SpeedFlex27 Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 5 hours ago, wbbfan said: you’re right. though it does take time with the same unit to get them to that point. and we see changes every other week. On that note, big props to yoshi for pulling his career off the scrap heap for a second time. he looks worlds better than the last 2-3 years here. Dobson too. dude is finally down to where he should be weight wise and not struggling to adjust to being lighter. We are like that bf that gets dumped then his exs become hot. The former bombers list of ol around the league would be the best ol in the league. If we finally jettisoned kola and either started wallace or eli, then ran with the 3 imps our ol would improve a lot. We give up on our guys too soon. Walters doesn't want to pay so they leave after their rookie deals are over. . We only pay & play them on cheap rookie deals. Yet, we pay to keep a useless Center around Like Kolankwski. Edited 15 hours ago by SpeedFlex27 wbbfan 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago 17 hours ago, GCn20 said: You should while getting more educated on these injuries. I do have an education. A knee replacement in 2023 from the same injury Schoen has suffered. All you do is talk ****. Piggy 1 1
Slimy Sculpin Posted 8 hours ago Report Posted 8 hours ago From the Winnipeg Free Press (posted online yesterday evening by Taylor Allen) about the Bombers’ OC, “the last time he was the head offensive coordinator was nearly a decade ago at a secondary school in Laval.” I’ll give my head a shake and leave it at that. wbbfan 1
wpgallday1960 Posted 8 hours ago Report Posted 8 hours ago 9 hours ago, Noeller said: I'm really hoping we go full spend mode this offseason... Buy as much as you can on th OL/DL... Whatever the method, both lines need to be upgraded. That much is obvious. Noeller and HardCoreBlue 1 1
Booch Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, Slimy Sculpin said: From the Winnipeg Free Press (posted online yesterday evening by Taylor Allen) about the Bombers’ OC, “the last time he was the head offensive coordinator was nearly a decade ago at a secondary school in Laval.” I’ll give my head a shake and leave it at that. I said that the day he was announced...a piss poor choice...zero experience at even a half assed university level...a lazy internal promotion and we'd pay for it....and yup...we paying 2 hours ago, wpgallday1960 said: Whatever the method, both lines need to be upgraded. That much is obvious. And be open minded and realize...u can allocate yiur ratio anyway u want...not concrete spots like we have...even when they not best option Find best players...then work your ratio...we assbackwards Piggy 1, Slimy Sculpin and wbbfan 3
Goalie Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago OL is only as good as the weakest link and kolo is extremely weak. He’s broken. That’s the problem. Noeller 1
Dreamcatcher Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Goalie said: OL is only as good as the weakest link and kolo is extremely weak. He’s broken. That’s the problem. The only replacement required on the o-line is a solid center. We could do that hopefully in the off season. On the D-Line, I am not as sure. I was thinking replace Jake with a solid Canadian if one comes available, but we have solid guys for the D-Line in house that are not played. (At least in my opinion as a couch coach)* I am afraid, however, there will be very little changes in the off season if O'Shea remains Head Coach. No offense to him or those that love him, but when guys are done or not as good as the opposition, its time to make changes...most Championship teams do...I am perplexed at our lack of depth at some positions and our HC seems to be turning a blind eye to this team, despite hosting the Grey Cup this year...something they NEW well before pre-season. Its hard for me to say, but I think that it should be the end of the Canadian Mafia this season. All 3 should be let go. Not just Walters and Osh....but Miller as well. He's too cheap. He likely instructed Walters to keep salaries down....despite this being a Grey Cup Year....top that off with Osh stubbornly playing guys who are past expiry dates or that show him a lunch pail attitude in practices, as opposed to some with outstanding talent that don't always go as hard in practice but save it for game day. I am not suggesting that if you dont work hard in practice that you should be allowed to play, but its a fact alot of solid vets dont always go hard anymore in practice. This team also needs depth at all positions that can step in without the team missing a beat. In the days gone by, we had Clements and Hufnagel...2 actual QB'S...now we have Collaros, who seems to be on his last legs, and Streveler that isnt very effective this year, and a reluctance to try our back up QB'S or trade for a guy that is young, has shown talent in this league, and may be available for as little as a draft pick. Most on here are not your average fans, so I dont think that when we point out huge flaws that we are wrong. This team started 3-0 with a healthy defense...Parker at Safety, Bond was in the secondary...but we are 3-7 since, and its apparent that if you use injuries as an excuse, then we are lacking solid depth. I see some of our rookies as promising, and of course they are learning the CFL game, but I sure hope they dont go status quo next year as well. Our O-Line, D-Line, Secondary, Linebackers, Depth...all need to be addressed. Booch, Piggy 1 and Tracker 3
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