Quarterback

Jake Dolegala (A)
Chris Streveler (A)

Running back

Johnny Augustine (N)

Fullback

Bailey Feltmate (N)

Receiver

Kenny Lawler (A)
Dalton Schoen (A)
Lucky Whitehead (A)

Offensive linemen

Stanley Bryant (A)
Liam Dobson (N)
Eric Lofton (A)
Patrick Neufeld (N)

Defensive linemen

Miles Fox (A)
TyJuan Garbutt (A)
Celestin Haba (A)
Willie Jefferson (A)
Jake Thomas (N)

Linebacker

Adam Bighill (A)
Brian Cole (A)
Shayne Gauthier (N)
Tony Jones (A)
Kyrie Wilson (A)

Defensive back

Brandon Alexander (A)
Tyrell Ford (N)
Nick Hallett (N)
Noah Hallett (N)
Evan Holm (A)
Jamal Parker (A)

Specialists

LS Mike Benson (N)
K Sergio Castillo (A)

I underlined the guys I don't care if we bring back.

5 minutes ago, Booch said:

If he doesnt get picked up by anyone...I bet my left and right nut this time Osh brings him back

I didnt watch the vid as i rarely like to watch Osh vids as they say basically nothing....unless he is slinging BS and he gets too smug....so will go off what other posters say....Was he asked if he has learned anything from past flops, and if he is gonna switch things up?

he may have told them that because Lawler told him a number he would come back for...and we couldnt hit it....If he was payed to his liking...100 percent he would remain

yup

same sentiment..and bring in Adeleke....and we good....let the scouts fill in the rest and then have a REAL training camp

yup....a lil extra money could be the diff in a guy or 2 dong a 180

BOLO as well would be a nice add.....He left originally due to his use...or lack thereof especially not seeing a rep in the Grey Cup....so not sure that distatse of the team still lingers, but it wasnt toward his teamates....and he still free so I'd like to see him and Big Kev tag-team one spot and allow us to spell of Demski

It's all very doable now, hopefully Walters has taken off his handcuffs and will put pen to paper on some talent.

5 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

In any other year I totally agree that 275 is an over pay. This is our GC hosting year. I am not against over paying/exceeding the cap this year to get our cup on home soil. For that reason I want KW to bring in difference makers. He hasn't done so yet and Lawler would be a great start.

yup...we need to pay premiun in a spot or two in our host yr...even if its just a one yr deal

Sure Lawler seems to go silent a few games a yr....BUT....is that really on him and only him....I would say no....Demski does the same....plus has worse ball security at times.....you work with the good and the bad...and Lawler works with a lot of good....Good that nobody in the league can do like he does.....and the big thing..ZC needs famiiarity and trust in his guys...or he essentially sucks and is a picken machine....and he wont be getting better this yr....but likely shows regression

For ZC to resemble vintage ZC...he needs elite talent all around him....

Looking at our group0 right now I dont see an elite group....with Schoen still a bit of an unknown...Mitchell..White...Demski..Clercuis and TBD as a backup

But Swap in Lawler with Mitchell...Schoen...Demski...Clercius and White JR as the extra guy as we wait for return of Wilson....that looks a lot better...and bet ZC would say so too

Yeah the WR group has too many, "could be really good" options, that could very well turn into a bunch of mediocre options.

5 minutes ago, Booch said:

yup...we need to pay premiun in a spot or two in our host yr...even if its just a one yr deal

Sure Lawler seems to go silent a few games a yr....BUT....is that really on him and only him....I would say no....Demski does the same....plus has worse ball security at times.....you work with the good and the bad...and Lawler works with a lot of good....Good that nobody in the league can do like he does.....and the big thing..ZC needs famiiarity and trust in his guys...or he essentially sucks and is a picken machine....and he wont be getting better this yr....but likely shows regression

For ZC to resemble vintage ZC...he needs elite talent all around him....

Looking at our group0 right now I dont see an elite group....with Schoen still a bit of an unknown...Mitchell..White...Demski..Clercuis and TBD as a backup

But Swap in Lawler with Mitchell...Schoen...Demski...Clercius and White JR as the extra guy as we wait for return of Wilson....that looks a lot better...and bet ZC would say so too

Mitchell, Schoen, Demski, Clercius, Lawler, White and the return of WIlson is as good as it gets in this league. This would give us ample skill starting and ample depth with a 5 IMP option as well when needed.

Edited February 6, 20251 yr by GCn20

3 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Mitchell, Schoen, Demski, Clercius, Lawler, White and the return of WIlson is as good as it gets in this league. This would give us ample skill starting and ample depth with a 5 IMP option as well when needed.

yup....and a nice mix of body types....add BOLO as the NI depth and we be set......White JR when he returned looked nothing like White JR pre-injury...maybe he is back to 100 percent as well and that would be a savvy pickup...he has a knack for the tough contested catches

I like tho we also have Logan  now to integrate in....and he is as explosive as it gets in the league...Under radr pickup to the lay fan who prob has no clue who he even is

20 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Mitchell, Schoen, Demski, Clercius, Lawler, White and the return of WIlson is as good as it gets in this league. This would give us ample skill starting and ample depth with a 5 IMP option as well when needed.

Lawler, White, Smith, Woli and whomever Hamilton runs as the 5th guy is better.

Mack, Philpot, Rambo, Spieker, Snead is also likely better.

27 minutes ago, Booch said:

yup....and a nice mix of body types....add BOLO as the NI depth and we be set......White JR when he returned looked nothing like White JR pre-injury...maybe he is back to 100 percent as well and that would be a savvy pickup...he has a knack for the tough contested catches

I like tho we also have Logan  now to integrate in....and he is as explosive as it gets in the league...Under radr pickup to the lay fan who prob has no clue who he even is

You think BOLO joins a team as depth again? 

38 minutes ago, Booch said:

or ZC to resemble vintage ZC...he needs elite talent all around him....

Looking at our group0 right now I dont see an elite group....with Schoen still a bit of an unknown...Mitchell..White...Demski..Clercuis and TBD as a backup

Well I wonder if collaros got too comfortable with his crutches and part of this is shaking it up so that the guy can't fall back on just throwing to the guys he trusts. Can't just toss it up and hope Lawler makes a spectacular play anymore. Gotta find someone other than wolitarsky to be at the sticks when he needs him. 

I dunno just spitballing. Collaros needs to be better all on his own. Shouldn't need receivers to carry him.

1 minute ago, Bigblue204 said:

You think BOLO joins a team as depth again? 

new system.....being the main backup to 2 guys....possible....plus he has yet to fully establish himself anywhere to be a defacto number 1 Canadian....so...maybe?....be nice 

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

Well I wonder if collaros got too comfortable with his crutches and part of this is shaking it up so that the guy can't fall back on just throwing to the guys he trusts. Can't just toss it up and hope Lawler makes a spectacular play anymore. Gotta find someone other than wolitarsky to be at the sticks when he needs him. 

I dunno just spitballing. Collaros needs to be better all on his own. Shouldn't need receivers to carry him.

I see that maybe as making it worse...him hanging on to the ball...undecided....hard to say.

I think too a lot of the issues are he's just had some his skills slowly diminish and leave him....it happens....and Buck last yr did him no favors with some bad game plans

Yeah for my money collaros lost the ability to escape in the pocket and he's struggled to play as a pocket passer.

22 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Lawler, White, Smith, Woli and whomever Hamilton runs as the 5th guy is better.

Mack, Philpot, Rambo, Spieker, Snead is also likely better.

Shemar Bridges is no token 5th guy.. he's elite.

8 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Yeah for my money collaros lost the ability to escape in the pocket and he's struggled to play as a pocket passer.

yeah...he definitely is not what he was...hopefully we can wring one more yr outta him

8 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

You think BOLO joins a team as depth again? 

If he stays in Hamilton, he's probably behind Woli on the depth chart.  BOLO started 9 games last year on a team that loved to chuck the ball and he still only saw 21 passes go his way so he wasn't a main target for them anyway.

29 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Lawler, White, Smith, Woli and whomever Hamilton runs as the 5th guy is better.

Mack, Philpot, Rambo, Spieker, Snead is also likely better.

Ottawa’s group is also likely better.

25 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Yeah for my money collaros lost the ability to escape in the pocket and he's struggled to play as a pocket passer.

I honestly don't think he's lost that escapability: it's that he's forced to escape more often than he has at any other time with us (and sees significantly more pressure from all over).  He never lets his feet settle and so he's always off platform when he throws and a big part of that is because he doesn't trust his protection.

Free agency is always fun when the names of guys who are absolutely cooked but recognizable bring extra value.

21 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

Shemar Bridges is no token 5th guy.. he's elite.

I know I was forgetting somebody

14 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Free agency is always fun when the names of guys who are absolutely cooked but recognizable bring extra value.

Who do you think that includes this year?

7 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

I know I was forgetting somebody

I think Hamilton has to top receiving unit in the league and probably still the best pass blocking offensive line.  What a dream situation for Bo.

32 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

I think Hamilton has to top receiving unit in the league and probably still the best pass blocking offensive line.  What a dream situation for Bo.

He can throw for a zillion yards again and still miss the playoffs.

56 minutes ago, voodoochylde said:

I honestly don't think he's lost that escapability: it's that he's forced to escape more often than he has at any other time with us (and sees significantly more pressure from all over).  He never lets his feet settle and so he's always off platform when he throws and a big part of that is because he doesn't trust his protection.

Collaros even at his best always hung onto the ball and ran around. Problem is he's noticeably slower and can't make the magic happen like he used to. He's lost some explosiveness and speed and he hasn't adapted his game. 

13 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Collaros even at his best always hung onto the ball and ran around. Problem is he's noticeably slower and can't make the magic happen like he used to. He's lost some explosiveness and speed and he hasn't adapted his game. 

it seems like his protection isnt as good...and he is panicked and pressured...I think it more he not nimble and as quick to recognize, and maneuverer himself like he was.....hence what we see...Sure the oline isn't what we were used to...dominant...but they were by no means a collection of stiffs and scrubs.

He also the last 2 yrs has lost a lot of his touch and accuracy....tell tale sign of a QB losing arm strength

 

11 minutes ago, Booch said:

He also the last 2 yrs has lost a lot of his touch and accuracy....tell tale sign of a QB losing arm strength

 

I don't think the accuracy/touch is the issue... it's him making bad decisions.   I don't remember him throwing into double/triple coverage as much as he did in his earlier years with us.  

13 minutes ago, Booch said:

it seems like his protection isnt as good...and he is panicked and pressured...I think it more he not nimble and as quick to recognize, and maneuverer himself like he was.....hence what we see...Sure the oline isn't what we were used to...dominant...but they were by no means a collection of stiffs and scrubs.

He also the last 2 yrs has lost a lot of his touch and accuracy....tell tale sign of a QB losing arm strength

 

Ya it's all of the above. Often had no pocket to step up into. Definitely has lost some touch too. 

Seemed to have less called roll outs too which used to work really well. 

Hope the O can refocus on Brady and the running game this year.

2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Lawler, White, Smith, Woli and whomever Hamilton runs as the 5th guy is better.

Mack, Philpot, Rambo, Spieker, Snead is also likely better.

Sorry I meant to include a return of Lawler to that group as I just feel it's going to happen.