NorthernSkunk Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, 66 Chevelle said: surely people here are smart enough to know the difference between someone stating an opinion as a matter of fact and stating an opinion based on how one feels... a fact is a statement that can be proven true or false... an opinion is an expression of a person’s feelings that cannot be proven... if you can prove that it wasn't how I felt or feel then you are correct, I'm wrong, but, good luck with that one, lol... as an example, if I were to say one of the following: a) if you don't know the difference between someone stating an opinion on how they feel or stating an opinion as a matter of fact, then you my friend or an idiot... or... b) if you don't know the difference between someone stating an opinion on how they feel or stating an opinion as a matter of fact, then that causes me great concern... statement a can be proven to be correct or incorrect... if you're capable of proving that you have an IQ greater than 70 than you are indeed technically NOT an idiot, whether you choose to demonstrate it or not is not relevant... however, statement b can NOT be proven or disproved as you have no way of knowing whether or not that I indeed have great concerns regarding your reading comprehension abilities, or anything else for that matter... there are no stats, documentation, or narrative otherwise that could substantiate the validity of my statement whether you agree or not... it's really not that complicated... Do goofy images searched for and taken from the internet have any relevance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Only people that are hyper reactive were looking to get rid of O'Shea or Walters. Minority NorthernSkunk and Noeller 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, 66 Chevelle said: a fact is a statement that can be proven true or false... an opinion is an expression of a person’s feelings that cannot be proven... it's really not that complicated... o·pin·ion /əˈpinyən/ noun a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. Not making up one's own definition of a word is usually a good starting point for discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted December 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, NorthernSkunk said: I said Nichols wasn't as tough as others who play the game, an then you asked if that was because of his parents, I basically said who else would be responsible for his genes. . And his quick turtling at times might make people question his courage. My opinion was that we wouldn't win a grey cup with Nichols as the QB. SpeedFlex27, Noeller and Geebrr 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66 Chevelle Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, WBBFanWest said: o·pin·ion /əˈpinyən/ noun a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. Not making up one's own definition of a word is usually a good starting point for discussion. then you should take that up with the Borough Of Manhattan Community College... link for ya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66 Chevelle Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 fact /fakt/ noun a thing that is known or proved to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, 66 Chevelle said: then you should take that up with the Borough Of Manhattan Community College... link for ya... And therein lies part of the problem. We have moved from things like dictionaries to "cheat sheets" because facts matter less and less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66 Chevelle Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Just now, WBBFanWest said: And therein lies part of the problem. We have moved from things like dictionaries to "cheat sheets" because facts matter less and less. yeah, it becomes a necessary evil when people aren't smart enough to interpret or understand the definition provided by a dictionary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) An opinion can most certainly be wrong. You have the right to have your incorrect opinion. We have the right to point out how wrong it is Edited December 15, 2019 by Geebrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66 Chevelle Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) delete... errant post.. something went afoul... Edited December 15, 2019 by 66 Chevelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66 Chevelle Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 I'll make it real simple for ya all... if you can prove that the statement below wasn't how I felt, or for that matter, still feel, I'll concede that I was wrong, otherwise, you all are just being dicks... "it's time to pass out apples and road maps to all three of them, MOS, Lapo, and Hall... well, after the playoffs anyway..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, 66 Chevelle said: I'll make it real simple for ya all... if you can prove that the statement below wasn't how I felt, or for that matter, still feel, I'll concede that I was wrong, otherwise, you all are just being dicks... "it's time to pass out apples and road maps to all three of them, MOS, Lapo, and Hall... well, after the playoffs anyway..." You can have that opinion. It's just a really really dumb one, in my opinion. It's dumb because you haven't been a fan long enough to remember the Blue Bombers merry-go-round of failure, which amounted to having a re-roll of personnel every 2-3 years. By the way, here's a fact for you: with the new salary cap structure for coacing staff, firing three people at once would be just about as dumb a move as you could possibly make because if would have a severe impact on coaching salaries for several years. BigBlueFanatic, Noeller and Geebrr 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) If my opinion is that it is warmer in Winnipeg than Nairobi in the month of January, my opinion is wrong. It is really that simple. Opinions can be misinformed, making them fundamentally wrong. Edited December 15, 2019 by Geebrr Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66 Chevelle Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, WBBFanWest said: You can have that opinion. It's just a really really dumb one, in my opinion. It's dumb because you haven't been a fan long enough to remember the Blue Bombers merry-go-round of failure, which amounted to having a re-roll of personnel every 2-3 years. By the way, here's a fact for you: with the new salary cap structure for coacing staff, firing three people at once would be just about as dumb a move as you could possibly make because if would have a severe impact on coaching salaries for several years. you know what? I have no problem with you disagreeing or having a different opinion than mine... in fact, I can even appreciate your different point of view... but, you can't say that how I feel isn't how I feel, regardless of whether you think I'm right or wrong... 9 minutes ago, Geebrr said: If my opinion is that it is warmer in Winnipeg than Nairobi in the month of January, my opinion is wrong. It is really that simple. Opinions can be misinformed, making them fundamentally wrong. not true, because you making a statement of fact, not opinion, that it is warmer in Winnipeg than Nairobi in the month of January... something that can easily be disproved by a simple google search... it is really that simple... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 In my opinion the facts are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 People confuse the fact that they are entitled to an opinion with the idea that because they can have an opinion that it's also true. Not the case. Opinions can and are frequently wrong no matter how you feel about them Noeller and Fred C Dobbs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66 Chevelle Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Just now, Geebrr said: In my opinion the facts are wrong. yeah... you seem like the type that doesn't let little things like facts get in the way of your story... Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, 66 Chevelle said: yeah... you seem like the type that doesn't let little things like facts get in the way of your story... And you seem like the type of person that thinks that every opinion is valid. They aren't. You demonstrate it with astonishing regularity. Dr Zaius and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66 Chevelle Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, 17to85 said: People confuse the fact that they are entitled to an opinion with the idea that because they can have an opinion that it's also true. Not the case. Opinions can and are frequently wrong no matter how you feel about them no, people confuse the fact that when they include a element of an actual fact to support their opinion that it's no longer merely an opinion and can be wrong because the fact you included to justify your opinion is wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 17to85 said: People confuse the fact that they are entitled to an opinion with the idea that because they can have an opinion that it's also true. Not the case. Opinions can and are frequently wrong no matter how you feel about them Exactly Edited December 15, 2019 by Geebrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Smurfs are real. That is my opinion. I cannot be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Geebrr said: Smurfs are real. That is my opinion. I cannot be wrong. Was there ever a serious argument that they aren't? Eternal optimist, Geebrr and bearpants 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66 Chevelle Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Geebrr said: That is what I have been saying. The existence of an opinion cannot be true or false. The content certainly can. care to explain what the hell that means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66 Chevelle Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Geebrr said: Smurfs are real. That is my opinion. I cannot be wrong. can you prove that? you are not providing an opinion, that is a statement of fact... you seriously can't see the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Just now, 66 Chevelle said: care to explain what the hell that means? Let's just focus on smurfs for now. comedygeek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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