There's likely going to be a lot of information coming by early next week, so this thread will be necessary...

Watching the highlight pack of the game, when Nichols gets up after being fallen on, he points at his shoulder and then points straight down......to me, he's saying his shoulder popped out....that it's dislocated. So if we're looking at a dislocated or separated shoulder, what is the recovery time on something like that? Is it a season ender?

Gotta be Bridge.

14 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Gotta be Bridge.

Agree or not unless someone comes loose in Toronto Bridge might be the best alternative.

51 Wildcat attempts....

22 flee flickers in a row!

 

48 minutes ago, do or die said:

51 Wildcat attempts....

Calm down, likely only need 12. Bombers will win 70-3. That's right, 10 of the 12 plays will go for majors. The other two, Streveler will kneel down on their one yard line to not run up the score.

Sorry.... should of subtracted the 10 Jet sweeps, 11 QB sneaks, 10 reverses, 5 hook and ladder plays....... and 3 Bomberooksies

I'd take Franklin over Bridge any day of the week and twice on game day.

We really don't need another 2nd rounder unless we lose some NI's in the off season, so I'd be happy to offer a 3rd and settle for a 2nd.

Franklin wouldn't be pushing for starting time in the first few weeks anyway, so no QB controversy in the near future.

I'd be more comfortable at the end of the season if we only lost 1 of Nichols, Streveler or Franklin.

All that being said... I doubt Toronto makes the trade anyway.

If Nichols is coming back then why bother trade for Franklin?  Who you going to cut when Nichols is healthy?

9 minutes ago, Brandon said:

If Nichols is coming back then why bother trade for Franklin?  Who you going to cut when Nichols is healthy?

At the rate Nichols injuries are adding up..... management was probably all ready working on this scenario before his latest injury 

1 hour ago, NorthernSkunk said:

At the rate Nichols injuries are adding up..... management was probably all ready working on this scenario before his latest injury 

For all of Nichols' accomplishments, all the team has to show, but if this year results for his time here is...one playoff win. Before you succumb to apoplexy, this is obviously not all his fault, but if at the end of the season, all the team has to show for it is just one more playoff win, a shakeup has to be considered. 

8 hours ago, M.Silverback said:

Thoughts?

https://3downnation.com/2019/08/21/the-blue-bombers-should-trade-for-argos-qb-james-franklin/

I wouldn't do it unless we're talking about a 4th round pick or later. Not a second round pick. We got Nichols for a seventh round pick. 

Wish I thought of that 😛 

Id be willing to give a second rounder, if he wasnt a pending FA and was on a reasonable contract. 

7 hours ago, TBURGESS said:

I'd take Franklin over Bridge any day of the week and twice on game day.

We really don't need another 2nd rounder unless we lose some NI's in the off season, so I'd be happy to offer a 3rd and settle for a 2nd.

Franklin wouldn't be pushing for starting time in the first few weeks anyway, so no QB controversy in the near future.

I'd be more comfortable at the end of the season if we only lost 1 of Nichols, Streveler or Franklin.

All that being said... I doubt Toronto makes the trade anyway.

What do you like about Franklin?  He seems like a turnover machine to me and a double clutcher...

honest question

6 hours ago, Floyd said:

What do you like about Franklin?  He seems like a turnover machine to me and a double clutcher...

honest question

I think Franklin's still got some upside. He's played one more game than Bridge, has 1400+ more yards passing, 8 more TD's and 5 more picks. Franklin's thrown for 3900+ yards in the CFL and has 21 TD's to 13 Int's, so I wouldn't call him a turn over machine. All but 1 of those picks are in the Toronto offence.

To me the double clutching comes from not seeing what he expected to see or the receiver not being open.

Franklin looked good in Edmonton's offence. Maybe's Toronto's offence is the wrong fit for his skill set or he hasn't fully grasped it yet. In either case, he'll likely get at least 1 more shot because he's had CFL success even after other teams got 'film' on him.

3 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

I think Franklin's still got some upside. He's played one more game than Bridge, has 1400+ more yards passing, 8 more TD's and 5 more picks. Franklin's thrown for 3900+ yards in the CFL and has 21 TD's to 13 Int's, so I wouldn't call him a turn over machine. All but 1 of those picks are in the Toronto offence.

To me the double clutching comes from not seeing what he expected to see or the receiver not being open.

Franklin looked good in Edmonton's offence. Maybe's Toronto's offence is the wrong fit for his skill set or he hasn't fully grasped it yet. In either case, he'll likely get at least 1 more shot because he's had CFL success even after other teams got 'film' on him.

I see several problems with a trade for Franklin, if it comes to that. Firstly, it would leave the Argos without any credible backup to Bethel-Thompson. Secondly, he would not come cheap and it has been very evident that Walters treasures his draft picks and has done well with them. Thirdly, it would be a clear signal that the Bomber brain trust has no confidence in either Streveler or McGuire, and that would be a Bad Thing. Fourthly, since leaving the Esks, Franklin has shown very little. So-  a hard no.

9 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

I think Franklin's still got some upside. He's played one more game than Bridge, has 1400+ more yards passing, 8 more TD's and 5 more picks. Franklin's thrown for 3900+ yards in the CFL and has 21 TD's to 13 Int's, so I wouldn't call him a turn over machine. All but 1 of those picks are in the Toronto offence.

To me the double clutching comes from not seeing what he expected to see or the receiver not being open.

Franklin looked good in Edmonton's offence. Maybe's Toronto's offence is the wrong fit for his skill set or he hasn't fully grasped it yet. In either case, he'll likely get at least 1 more shot because he's had CFL success even after other teams got 'film' on him.

Not to worry, if the Bombers sign him, you'll become the "what the hell were they thinking ,signing this bum" club president.

Latest QB accuracy ratings according to Mashall Ferguson.

 

https://www.cfl.ca/2019/08/22/accuracy-grades-target-week-10/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

7 hours ago, Floyd said:

What do you like about Franklin?  He seems like a turnover machine to me and a double clutcher...

honest question

he doesn't play for the bombers.

You guys realize any QB we bring in is not meant to start for us, unless under the most extreme circumstances, right? I would take just about anyone with CFL experience to fill this role.

2 hours ago, WBBFanWest said:

Not to worry, if the Bombers sign him, you'll become the "what the hell were they thinking ,signing this bum" club president.

Floyd asked a simple question.. why I like Franklin over Bridge. I answered. You and 17 made up stuff then whined about it.

Franklin was one of the hottest commodities when he was still with Edmonton. The guy looked legitimately like a world beater. I don't think that just disappeared into thin air. There's a really really good football player in there somewhere. To me, it's worth a chance at redemption for a 3rd round pick...

2 hours ago, TBURGESS said:

I think Franklin's still got some upside. He's played one more game than Bridge, has 1400+ more yards passing, 8 more TD's and 5 more picks. Franklin's thrown for 3900+ yards in the CFL and has 21 TD's to 13 Int's, so I wouldn't call him a turn over machine. All but 1 of those picks are in the Toronto offence.

To me the double clutching comes from not seeing what he expected to see or the receiver not being open.

Franklin looked good in Edmonton's offence. Maybe's Toronto's offence is the wrong fit for his skill set or he hasn't fully grasped it yet. In either case, he'll likely get at least 1 more shot because he's had CFL success even after other teams got 'film' on him.

No he hasn't. He had success in EDM, when they had a grey cup calibre team. Outside of that he's looked mediocre at best. This is also the second system he's been a part of in TO with similar results. I'm not Sayig Bridge is any better. I just don't get the trade idea for a guy who is showing everyone he doesn't have what it takes.

30 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

No he hasn't. He had success in EDM, when they had a grey cup calibre team. Outside of that he's looked mediocre at best. This is also the second system he's been a part of in TO with similar results. I'm not Sayig Bridge is any better. I just don't get the trade idea for a guy who is showing everyone he doesn't have what it takes.

Bridge has kinda shown the same, but he has played a bit more and a helluva lot cheaper. It may come down to who is more coachable.

5 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Bridge has kinda shown the same, but he has played a bit more and a helluva lot cheaper. It may come down to who is more coachable.

Or who is free...I'd be fine signing Franklin if/when he gets cut from TO. But I wouldn't trade anything outside of a 7th rounder for him.

Edited August 22, 20196 yr by Bigblue204

Just now, Bigblue204 said:

Or who is free...

Bridge is at large is he not? Can't get cheaper than free, and you can always get your money back.

The Bombers are going to be going after a guy on the cheap with CFL experience.   No way they pay a hefty price to acquire and then pay for Franklin all for him to sit on the bench.  I'm assuming we get a name that's familiar but nothing special.