So to recap, among his main moves to this point are the signing of Aaron Kelly and Greg Peach, both of whom have made impacts to varying degrees in their time here. He's taken a chance on Mike Sims-Walker, and he traded Buck Pierce, who was not going to be back, and managed to get a non import in the process.

 

The question I have is (And I'm not advocating we forgo a thorough search for a GM in the offseason) what would it take for you to want Kyle Walters be the official General Manager heading into next season?

How do we get how awful stats in one half? Follow the bouncing ball...it's quite easy to see.

 

1st quarter

1st play of the game is a completion for a 1st down, but wait, an offside takes that away. Then a running play, then a good play by the DB for an int. 

Sask. has the ball for the next 5 minutes and kick a FG.

Then Will Ford has the nerve to take away more Wpg. possession time with that kickoff return TD.

Sask has the ball for 3 more mins. We get an int and poss. for a 1 min before Edwards drops that catch. Result ...punt

Sask has the ball the rest of the quarter.

 

Total possession time for Wpg.....less than 2 mins.

 

2nd quarter 

After Sask FG we get the ball for a minute and a half before Kohlert drops a first down catch

We punt, then hold Sask and they punt, whereby JJ is stripped of the ball. 

Result no possession. Sask FG

We get the ball...1 yard run, then a sack...punt 1 min poss.

Trade punts Poss. Wpg....less than a min.

Wpg. poss  2 runs, then punt.

We punt, get a fumble, one sack, one incomplete pass.   Wpg FG

Sask uses up 2 min and get a FG.

 

Total poss time Wpg.....just over 5 and a half minutes

Poss first half....under 8 minutes

 

And another reason why stats don't always tell the whole story.

How do we get how awful stats in one half? Follow the bouncing ball...it's quite easy to see.

 

1st quarter

1st play of the game is a completion for a 1st down, but wait, an offside takes that away. Then a running play, then a good play by the DB for an int. 

Sask. has the ball for the next 5 minutes and kick a FG.

Then Will Ford has the nerve to take away more Wpg. possession time with that kickoff return TD.

Sask has the ball for 3 more mins. We get an int and poss. for a 1 min before Edwards drops that catch. Result ...punt

Sask has the ball the rest of the quarter.

 

Total possession time for Wpg.....less than 2 mins.

 

2nd quarter 

After Sask FG we get the ball for a minute and a half before Kohlert drops a first down catch

We punt, then hold Sask and they punt, whereby JJ is stripped of the ball. 

Result no possession. Sask FG

We get the ball...1 yard run, then a sack...punt 1 min poss.

Trade punts Poss. Wpg....less than a min.

Wpg. poss  2 runs, then punt.

We punt, get a fumble, one sack, one incomplete pass.   Wpg FG

Sask uses up 2 min and get a FG.

 

Total poss time Wpg.....just over 5 and a half minutes

Poss first half....under 8 minutes

 

And another reason why stats don't always tell the whole story.

 

I don't mean to criticize your efforts, but showing us that Goltz managed 12 passing yards on what I count in your description as 7 offensive possessions isn't exactly a good argument.

How do we get how awful stats in one half? Follow the bouncing ball...it's quite easy to see.

 

1st quarter

1st play of the game is a completion for a 1st down, but wait, an offside takes that away. Then a running play, then a good play by the DB for an int. 

Sask. has the ball for the next 5 minutes and kick a FG.

Then Will Ford has the nerve to take away more Wpg. possession time with that kickoff return TD.

Sask has the ball for 3 more mins. We get an int and poss. for a 1 min before Edwards drops that catch. Result ...punt

Sask has the ball the rest of the quarter.

 

Total possession time for Wpg.....less than 2 mins.

 

2nd quarter 

After Sask FG we get the ball for a minute and a half before Kohlert drops a first down catch

We punt, then hold Sask and they punt, whereby JJ is stripped of the ball. 

Result no possession. Sask FG

We get the ball...1 yard run, then a sack...punt 1 min poss.

Trade punts Poss. Wpg....less than a min.

Wpg. poss  2 runs, then punt.

We punt, get a fumble, one sack, one incomplete pass.   Wpg FG

Sask uses up 2 min and get a FG.

 

Total poss time Wpg.....just over 5 and a half minutes

Poss first half....under 8 minutes

 

And another reason why stats don't always tell the whole story.

 

Neither did you  . A pretty one-sided re-telling.

The only "fact" is he  had 12 yards passing at halftime.

 

I don't mean to criticize your efforts, but showing us that Goltz managed 12 passing yards on what I count in your description as 7 offensive possessions isn't exactly a good argument.

 

 

 

The only "fact" is he  had 12 yards passing at halftime.

 

There is no argument to be made here.

You can interpret the information given any way you choose, that's why it's there.

It's just that when posters just submit 12 yards in the 1st half as the whole story, without context, it's irritating.

 

 

 

Neither did you  . A pretty one-sided re-telling.

 

 

Which side did you want me to tell it from?

 

I don't mean to criticize your efforts, but showing us that Goltz managed 12 passing yards on what I count in your description as 7 offensive possessions isn't exactly a good argument.

 

I think the main thing to take away is the context. I mean if a qb puts the ball in a catchable spot and the receiver drops it ending the possession is it entirely fair to just say "not enough yards passing"? If a possession ends cause the running game gets stuffed is it fair to only use the number of passing yards? 12 passing yards is not a good stat, but it's gotta be examined within the context of the game. 

This thread seemed to get detoured way off topic.

I don't think we should be running with Goltz anymore. Id like to see Hall as 1 and Goltz as 2 for now, when Levi Brown is ready, Id like to see him as number 2, and one of Goltz or Boltus as number 3.

 

Goltz has lost all of my confidence in him at this point.

This thread seemed to get detoured way off topic.

I agree, we have to change the name of the thread.

I don't think we should be running with Goltz anymore. Id like to see Hall as 1 and Goltz as 2 for now, when Levi Brown is ready, Id like to see him as number 2, and one of Goltz or Boltus as number 3.

 

Goltz has lost all of my confidence in him at this point.

why? what has he ever done to make you think he's better than Goltz? What has Hall done for that matter? Or is this simply a case of "I don't like this guy cause he's not an allstar so maybe one of the other guys is an allstar"? 

 

This thread seemed to get detoured way off topic.

I agree, we have to change the name of the thread.

 

 

Or bring in Shankman to restore some law and order around here....

We had a blow up already a day or so ago & we fixed it ourselves. Don't need overmodding like Shankman.

We had a blow up already a day or so ago & we fixed it ourselves. Don't need overmodding like Shankman.

 

no site needs Shankman, that's for sure.

Yep. I won't post there as long as he's a mod. Told Colin that as well. It's up to him to change things if he wants. If he doesn't que sera, sera. His choice.

Yep. I won't post there as long as he's a mod. Told Colin that as well. It's up to him to change things if he wants. If he doesn't que sera, sera. His choice.

 

That diabolical laughter you hear is Colin celebrating that his plan worked.    j/k of course Iso.

Good article about Kyle Walters

 

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/in-touch-with-the-community-223420091.html

The Bombers boss, you see, is also a volunteer high school football linesman.

 

 

 

The Bombers' GM... is also a linesman for high school football...?  That's amazing.

We had a blow up already a day or so ago & we fixed it ourselves. Don't need overmodding like Shankman.

 

God, dont even get me started on that clown.  He "chased" me from the other board.  I barely even go there now, let alone post.

 

We had a blow up already a day or so ago & we fixed it ourselves. Don't need overmodding like Shankman.

 

God, dont even get me started on that clown.  He "chased" me from the other board.  I barely even go there now, let alone post.

 

Is he called Shankman because he likes to stab people in the back?

 

 

We had a blow up already a day or so ago & we fixed it ourselves. Don't need overmodding like Shankman.

 

God, dont even get me started on that clown.  He "chased" me from the other board.  I barely even go there now, let alone post.

 

Is he called Shankman because he likes to stab people in the back?

 

 

"This has gone way off the tracks now. We need to stay on topic. Warnings for everyone."

- Shankman

Good article about Kyle Walters

 

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/in-touch-with-the-community-223420091.html

 

Just read that and it's really interesting about Walters and the high school football but it sure would be nice if reporters could get their facts straight. 

 

There is, of course, also a football upside to all this outreach -- and it's name is Andrew Harris. The star tailback was born, raised and learned to play football in Winnipeg and yet Harris plays for the B.C. Lions because they recognized in him a talent as a B.C. junior football player that the Bombers never saw in him when he was playing here right under their noses.

 

  Harris is a Lion because he was a territorial exemption. It's not like the Bombers could have forced him to play for the Rifles. 

With Walters now on the ground at the game's grassroots -- refereeing high school games, scouting junior games, meeting with the Bisons -- the hope is the next Andrew Harris won't slip between the Bombers' fingers

 

 

Well my nephew plays center for the St. Vital Mustangs so hopefully Kyle notices him.  We could use some depth at center.  I know he's only 11 right now, but if they 9 game him for 12 years I expect he'll learn the CFL game in good time.

 

Good article about Kyle Walters

 

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/in-touch-with-the-community-223420091.html

 

Just read that and it's really interesting about Walters and the high school football but it sure would be nice if reporters could get their facts straight. 

 

There is, of course, also a football upside to all this outreach -- and it's name is Andrew Harris. The star tailback was born, raised and learned to play football in Winnipeg and yet Harris plays for the B.C. Lions because they recognized in him a talent as a B.C. junior football player that the Bombers never saw in him when he was playing here right under their noses.

 

  Harris is a Lion because he was a territorial exemption. It's not like the Bombers could have forced him to play for the Rifles. 

 

 

No.  But the organization's involvement in all levels of football here in Manitoba might help direct players to programs within the province.  That interest and involvement can go a long way to improving grassroots football.  It can eventually help funnel local products to the Bombers.

^^^^^

Like Brett Carter.

 

Good article about Kyle Walters

 

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/in-touch-with-the-community-223420091.html

 

Just read that and it's really interesting about Walters and the high school football but it sure would be nice if reporters could get their facts straight. 

 

There is, of course, also a football upside to all this outreach -- and it's name is Andrew Harris. The star tailback was born, raised and learned to play football in Winnipeg and yet Harris plays for the B.C. Lions because they recognized in him a talent as a B.C. junior football player that the Bombers never saw in him when he was playing here right under their noses.

 

  Harris is a Lion because he was a territorial exemption. It's not like the Bombers could have forced him to play for the Rifles. 

 

Yes and no.  They couldn't force him, but they could have encouraged him.

 

The Lions work very closely with the teams in the BC junior league to identify players, and council them on career path options.  They also provide large levels of funding, as do the Stamps, Eskies, and Riders.  The Bombers have supported the Rifles, but not to the same extent.

 

Most players coming out of high school don't realize what their options are.   Wally knows that he can put a territorial protection on a player in the BCFC, so he encourages young players to play junior.  He backs it up with invites to training camp.   BC had 4 junior players in their camp this spring.

 

Mack doesn't know who the Rifles are, and didn't know there was a way to protect players.   Walters understands the process; he attended the Rifle dinner this spring (The Reinbold Roast).   IIRC, he sat with Brett Carter at that dinner.  (The Rifles put a player or coach at every table).

 

If Wally says to a high school player "we've got an eye on you, you should play for the VI Raiders"  That kid is going to listen to the pitch.   Hopefully Walters will work with the Rifles the same way.    If Walters finds a diamond in the local community, and he helps that kid develop with the Rifles, he can protect him.

 

The UofM Bison are a great program, and a great option for many, but not for all.  There are some talented football players who aren't academically suited for university.   Some may be better suited to the UofW or to RRCC.   The Rifles can provide options for these players.   From the Bombers viewpoint, they have to draft players from the UofM, and those players can be drafted by any other team.   The rules for junior are different.