I didn't think we had a thread for this. 

Is Trudeau this out of touch or does he just not care?

 

On 2018-10-03 at 4:44 PM, Mark H. said:

Ok, fair comment.  I guess I'm more used to the farms I see in MB. We don't have a dairy ourselves, but have one neighbour with 100 cows, one with 40, and another with 70.  The biggest farm that I know of personally milks around 300 head and the family also runs a strawberry farm.  Boonstra berries - people on here have probably heard of them.  

If what you describe is happening, then it sounds like corporations have tapped into the supply management system, just as well it gets dissolved if that's the case. 

It's been happening for awhile.  My brother was squeezed out of dairy 20 years ago.  He'd received an award for having the top 5 milk quality in the province the previous year, but since he only had a 40 cow herd that was pretty far from the next nearest farm they pressured him to get out of the business.  Told him he needed to build a new barn (at least a million dollars back then) or he was out.  I am very much in favour of the idea of supply management, but I fear that the capitalists have taken over the industry.

12 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

It's been happening for awhile.  My brother was squeezed out of dairy 20 years ago.  He'd received an award for having the top 5 milk quality in the province the previous year, but since he only had a 40 cow herd that was pretty far from the next nearest farm they pressured him to get out of the business.  Told him he needed to build a new barn (at least a million dollars back then) or he was out.  I am very much in favour of the idea of supply management, but I fear that the capitalists have taken over the industry.

Who is "they"? 

On 2018-10-05 at 10:00 AM, JCon said:

Who is "they"? 

I probably shouldn't speculate without knowledge of the industry but most likely a large corporation who purchases the milk, processes and packages it, and  "brands" it for sale in grocery stores.  Economics of scale, it is not worth their while to deal with small producers.

It was communicated through the dairy inspector, but we had reason to believe that there were people on the Milk Marketing Board who wanted the little guys (especially the isolated ones) gone.  

17 hours ago, Wideleft said:

It was communicated through the dairy inspector, but we had reason to believe that there were people on the Milk Marketing Board who wanted the little guys (especially the isolated ones) gone.  

I was thinking the Board. Thanks. 

So NAFTA is out... we get the USMCA instead... United States, Mexico, Canada Agreement... good thing they didn't go with USCAM- that would have been a branding nightmare.

6 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

So NAFTA is out... we get the USMCA instead... United States, Mexico, Canada Agreement... good thing they didn't go with USCAM- that would have been a branding nightmare.

United States-Canada, Agreement, Mexico? That would have been odd. 

16 minutes ago, JCon said:

United States-Canada, Agreement, Mexico? That would have been odd. 

It's trump... he talks good english.

1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

It's trump... he talks good english.

That's cause he's the smartest. S-M-R-T.

Just now, JCon said:

That's cause he's the smartest. S-M-R-T.

Libs killing jobs: Pot-sniffing dogs to be phased out of police canine program as legal weed looms

 

Call an election right now! I dare you!

 

59 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Call an election right now! I dare you!

 

Lol...did u not finish reading the tweet? 1200 people were polled. That's like one neighborhood. I'm honestly embarrassed for the people using this like it is any indication of how the country actually feels...I'm not even suggesting it's wrong...but it's a joke.

49 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Lol...did u not finish reading the tweet? 1200 people were polled. That's like one neighborhood. I'm honestly embarrassed for the people using this like it is any indication of how the country actually feels...I'm not even suggesting it's wrong...but it's a joke.

Did they contact 4 people from every riding?

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43 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Lol...did u not finish reading the tweet? 1200 people were polled. That's like one neighborhood. I'm honestly embarrassed for the people using this like it is any indication of how the country actually feels...I'm not even suggesting it's wrong...but it's a joke.

You should research sample size and statistical significance. I don't know the method behind this particular poll, but just because only 1200 people were polled doesn't mean the result isn't accurate to a given margin of error. 

55 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Lol...did u not finish reading the tweet? 1200 people were polled. That's like one neighborhood. I'm honestly embarrassed for the people using this like it is any indication of how the country actually feels...I'm not even suggesting it's wrong...but it's a joke.

I used to work for a polling company briefly and they taught us the formula which I dont remember.  What do polls mean any more?  Well,  a poll is a poll and they have their formulas.  

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Call an election right now! I dare you!

 

FPTP. Having a national lead is meaningless unless you lead in the majority of ridings. 

On 2018-10-17 at 10:17 AM, The Unknown Poster said:

Call an election right now! I dare you!

 

According to this article, they may want to...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-polls-2019-election-1.4870074

 

On 2018-10-17 at 11:19 AM, Bigblue204 said:

Lol...did u not finish reading the tweet? 1200 people were polled. That's like one neighborhood. I'm honestly embarrassed for the people using this like it is any indication of how the country actually feels...I'm not even suggesting it's wrong...but it's a joke.

Not only that, they seldom mention the method used to survey people. Lots of these surveys use phone calls (i.e. landlines) to survey individuals. This inherently means you're surveying an older population, which has been shown to be more conservative-leaning. So the results really aren't that surprising.

polls this early are really meaningless.  I saw an Ipsos poll today that shows that the Conservatives and Libs are only 1 point apart.  At this point I think the Liberals gain on the continued weakness of the NDP.  

Remember when Harper sold off those shares of the auto-makers and Liberal fans went berserk?  I wonder if there will be any out-cry over this:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/chrysler-auto-loan-canada-account-write-off-edc-bailout-taxpayer-wudrick-milke-1.4871648

5 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

Remember when Harper sold off those shares of the auto-makers and Liberal fans went berserk?  I wonder if there will be any out-cry over this:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/chrysler-auto-loan-canada-account-write-off-edc-bailout-taxpayer-wudrick-milke-1.4871648

Harper certainly screwed this one up. Too bad we're holding the bag. 

24 minutes ago, JCon said:

Harper certainly screwed this one up. Too bad we're holding the bag. 

Well, I said it to trigger TUP but he didn't take the bait. 

 

I wish we could find a better way to help sectors without direct bailouts, like to Bombardier. I see the need to invest when some industries are struggling or during bad economic situations but there must be a better way. 

38 minutes ago, JCon said:

Well, I said it to trigger TUP but he didn't take the bait.

Had a funny phone call from the UCP here in Alberta last week. I don't remember the script exactly but they started out by identifying themselves as calling on behalf of the UCP and then saying "Don't you think it's time we had government..." and then bashing the NDP on an issue, I think it was about their  financial management. I've actually been a fan, for the most part, of the provincial NDP (I have no idea which least worst party I'm going to go with federally but I know it's not NDP) so I said "nope" in a friendly, half-amused tone and he said thank-you and hung up. I thought, wow, if you were trying to convince me to swing to the UCP you might wanna switch up your tactics. I'm not sure the abrupt-end-to-the-phone-call-when-I don't-agree-with-you route is gonna take you a long way.