pigseye Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, 17to85 said: Devil's advocate is about presenting a different opinion as a way to get someone to think about their beliefs. This is not that. This is trying to steer the conversation into a different and unrelated direction. It's pretty text book right wing distraction technique. Nobody on here is going to change the way they think but nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, pigseye said: Nobody on here is going to change the way they think but nice try. "Nice try"? dafuq? you were the one who brought it up in the first place...smh 16 minutes ago, pigseye said: troll or devil's advocate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: "Nice try"? dafuq? you were the one who brought it up in the first place...smh Uh, 17 got me, hook line and sinker, touché. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, pigseye said: Uh, 17 got me, hook line and sinker, touché. Gotta say, that avatar - you nailed it. Edited March 6, 2020 by wanna-b-fanboy pigseye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 hours ago, 17to85 said: But is the writer wrong in his description of trump? Seems to nail it pretty much on the nose. Nothing uniquely British in mocking Trumps foibles real or imagined. Can get that from any lefty commentator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 Usual suspects cry "sexism" when Warren loses yet party excludes Tulsi Gabbard the last woman in the race from next debate. Nice job, Democrats. Credibility is zilch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 For the record....there are no trolls in this thread. Perhaps just some agent provocateurs...... The Unknown Poster and Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Zontar said: Usual suspects cry "sexism" when Warren loses yet party excludes Tulsi Gabbard the last woman in the race from next debate. Nice job, Democrats. Credibility is zilch. I don't think you know what sexism is... JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 9 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: I don't think you know what sexism is... Discrimination and bias based on gender. Dems and progressives say society needs more women in power. When women lose elections "sexism" is among the top causes claimed by the Left. Party that supposedly champions women excludes a woman on arbitrary rules that could be easily bent and no one would care. Democrats as feminist progressives are complete frauds. Am I getting warm ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 57 minutes ago, Zontar said: Discrimination and bias based on gender. Dems and progressives say society needs more women in power. When women lose elections "sexism" is among the top causes claimed by the Left. Party that supposedly champions women excludes a woman on arbitrary rules that could be easily bent and no one would care. Democrats as feminist progressives are complete frauds. Am I getting warm ? So, women better just turn to the bastion of feminist thought - the Republican party, if they know what is good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, do or die said: So, women better just turn to the bastion of feminist thought - the Republican party, if they know what is good for them. I don't believe that is what he trying to say. I think he trying to point out the imagined hypocrisy that the Democratic party should cry sexism in Tulsi' s case because they did the same for Warren.... furthermore showcased by dropping Tulsi from the debate, supposedly changing the rules to make that happen- because she has a ******. not taking into account her failed Candidacy, unpopular platform and her lone delegate... And possible because she is not even campaigning anymore.... Cherrypicking points to create hypocrisy . JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 There’s no difference between warren or tulsi right. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, do or die said: So, women better just turn to the bastion of feminist thought - the Republican party, if they know what is good for them. Plenty of women in power among Republicans . Plenty of women in general who consider themselves conservative or traditional. Yet they don't get the same moral support from feminists because they don't tout the usual leftist garbage. Gabbard is a down the line leftist anyway except she's a maverick on foreign policy. Donor class and deep state fear her voice in a debate. Deep state helps getting people into power and cushy jobs in DC. Dems want that power and more than happy to throw any one overboard man or woman to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said: There’s no difference between warren or tulsi right. Lol We are told there is no distinction. Keeping women out power, jobs etc is sexism and wrong Blatant hypocrisy by Democrats. Blatant hypocrisy by by Warren and other female Dems by not even giving her token support. The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: I don't believe that is what he trying to say. I think he trying to point out the imagined hypocrisy that the Democratic party should cry sexism in Tulsi' s case because they did the same for Warren.... furthermore showcased by dropping Tulsi from the debate, supposedly changing the rules to make that happen- because she has a ******. not taking into account her failed Candidacy, unpopular platform Cherrypicking points to create hypocrisy . Warren's campaign was just as big a flop as anyone's. Fuelled by media hype who wanted to look woke. Too much baggage and ran a horrible campaign. Outside of the media bubble she was nothing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Zontar said: Warren's campaign was just as big a flop as anyone's. Fuelled by media hype who wanted to look woke. Too much baggage and ran a horrible campaign. Outside of the media bubble she was nothing . What metrics are you using to come to this conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: What metrics are you using to come to this conclusion? Umpteen media endorsements and favourable coverage like NYT. Darling of the left twitter class Real world results nowhere close to the hype. Huge disconnect. Edited March 7, 2020 by Zontar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Zontar said: Discrimination and bias based on gender. Dems and progressives say society needs more women in power. When women lose elections "sexism" is among the top causes claimed by the Left. Party that supposedly champions women excludes a woman on arbitrary rules that could be easily bent and no one would care. Democrats as feminist progressives are complete frauds. Am I getting warm ? So offer proof that gabbard is being discriminated based on gender... the dnc wants Biden as it's candidate just as it did Hillary. It's not sexism, it's just wanting the person who is in with the right circles. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Zontar said: Warren's campaign was just as big a flop as anyone's. Fuelled by media hype who wanted to look woke. Too much baggage and ran a horrible campaign. Outside of the media bubble she was nothing . She may have run a horrible campaign, but she had arguably the most substance of any candidate. She would have been my top choice not because I'm woke or any of that nonsense but because she truly was the smartest one of the bunch with the most well reasoned and researched positions. But she didn't get the support and is out of the race because Bernie inspires the progressive side more and Biden is the status quo choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, 17to85 said: So offer proof that gabbard is being discriminated based on gender... the dnc wants Biden as it's candidate just as it did Hillary. It's not sexism, it's just wanting the person who is in with the right circles. Exactly. The right person. So no progressive should cry "sexism" when a progressive woman candidate is rejected without examining why she actually lost. Warren's , like Hillary s, accusation of sexism goes unchallenged and promoted by the same people who demand "we need more women voices in politics" yet there's crickets over Gabbard... Who is also a woman of colour which doubles their hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, 17to85 said: She may have run a horrible campaign, but she had arguably the most substance of any candidate. She would have been my top choice not because I'm woke or any of that nonsense but because she truly was the smartest one of the bunch with the most well reasoned and researched positions. But she didn't get the support and is out of the race because Bernie inspires the progressive side more and Biden is the status quo choice. Could have gotten traction. Strategy of going full woke identity politics alienated people she needed the most vs Bernie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Zontar said: Exactly. The right person. So no progressive should cry "sexism" when a progressive woman candidate is rejected without examining why she actually lost. Warren's , like Hillary s, accusation of sexism goes unchallenged and promoted by the same people who demand "we need more women voices in politics" yet there's crickets over Gabbard... Who is also a woman of colour which doubles their hypocrisy. You and false equivalencies. blue_gold_84 and JCon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Zontar said: Plenty of women in power among Republicans Edited March 7, 2020 by johnzo Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) On 2020-03-05 at 12:13 PM, 17to85 said: So if it's a mental state then let everyone be whatever they want to be, again, what's the difference? If someone makes that choice why are you trying to protect them from their own possible regret? Isn't it more harmful to deny the people who it would benefit that option? note how Zontar punches out of the discussion as soon as he's challenged, and changes the channel from "ugh icky gross trans people!" to the old reliable "democrats are hypocrites." It's like watching MJF try to worm his way out of his match with Cody. Still waiting to hear on all those illegal votes, btw. Do you still believe that? Edited March 7, 2020 by johnzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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