Mark H. Posted April 1, 2023 Report Share Posted April 1, 2023 41 minutes ago, Tracker said: Or Old Order Mennonites, Wahabist Muslims, Lev Tahor Jews, Catholic Palmarians and some nuns and monks. I have met both Old Order Mennonites and Amish - spent time on their farms too Neither one is so sheltered that they are exempt from making decisions. They are also very much aware of how they are impacted by outside forces In terms of sustainability - there are very few people who couldn't learn something from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted April 1, 2023 Report Share Posted April 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Mark H. said: A religion does not put you in a position where you don't have to make decisions or earn a living. I think you are perhaps taking it a little too literally. Religion doesn't mean everyone is the same, but there are some people will do whatever their preacher says they should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted April 1, 2023 Report Share Posted April 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, 17to85 said: I think you are perhaps taking it a little too literally. Religion doesn't mean everyone is the same, but there are some people will do whatever their preacher says they should do. That's the perception. But the reality is, most don't, because it's not a sustainable approach Piggy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted April 1, 2023 Report Share Posted April 1, 2023 Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) called for the prosecution of President Biden in response to the indictment of former president Trump. Greene tweeted: Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene @RepMTG Impeach Biden. He’s given us every reason and the family banking records and more are giving us receipts. But now that the gloves are off.. Prosecute any and all crimes. Enough of this witch hunt bullshit. It has been a crazy couple of days in the news, but this tweet by Rep. Greene is worth looking at, not for her call to prosecute Biden, but for how she and many other Republicans view the justice system and American politics. Rep. Greene seems to want President Biden prosecuted because it would even the score with Trump. It is irrelevant that President Biden has not committed crimes. He must be prosecuted because Trump was indicted. In the view of Rep. Greene, the justice system isn’t about upholding the rule of law. The justice system in the United States exists to target political enemies and exact revenge for allies who will be potentially held responsible for wrongdoing. bustamente 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted April 1, 2023 Report Share Posted April 1, 2023 Prosecute any and all crimes.... yes let's do that. Whole pile of republicans better watch out though if that were to ever happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted April 2, 2023 Report Share Posted April 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Tracker said: Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) called for the prosecution of President Biden in response to the indictment of former president Trump. Greene tweeted: Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene @RepMTG Impeach Biden. He’s given us every reason and the family banking records and more are giving us receipts. But now that the gloves are off.. Prosecute any and all crimes. Enough of this witch hunt bullshit. It has been a crazy couple of days in the news, but this tweet by Rep. Greene is worth looking at, not for her call to prosecute Biden, but for how she and many other Republicans view the justice system and American politics. Rep. Greene seems to want President Biden prosecuted because it would even the score with Trump. It is irrelevant that President Biden has not committed crimes. He must be prosecuted because Trump was indicted. In the view of Rep. Greene, the justice system isn’t about upholding the rule of law. The justice system in the United States exists to target political enemies and exact revenge for allies who will be potentially held responsible for wrongdoing. It's a game. My team vs yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted April 2, 2023 Report Share Posted April 2, 2023 It's incredible that people Trump has dragged thru the mud and run over all support him and his criminal activity, I hope when Trump is de fanged that the press and voters never forget these talk out of both sides of my mouth losers. Never let them live down the fact that they supported and enabled one of the worst humans to walk this planet. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted April 2, 2023 Report Share Posted April 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, bustamente said: It's incredible that people Trump has dragged thru the mud and run over all support him and his criminal activity, I hope when Trump is de fanged that the press and voters never forget these talk out of both sides of my mouth losers. Never let them live down the fact that they supported and enabled one of the worst humans to walk this planet. Trump's supporters are blithely ignoring that Trump would sell them all out in a New York second to get 20 minutes off his sentence. On the other hand, they would do that to him if the situation was reversed. Bigblue204 and bustamente 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted April 3, 2023 Report Share Posted April 3, 2023 Billionaire my ass, the only thing he knows how to do is grift, eventually the spigot will run dry especially will all the indictments that may be coming down the road. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted April 3, 2023 Report Share Posted April 3, 2023 Justice Department Has New Evidence In Trump Classified Documents Probe: Report The Justice Department has gathered new evidence in its investigation into former President Donald Trump’s removal of classified documents from the White House that may point to possible obstruction, The Washington Post reported Sunday. Sources familiar with the matter told the newspaper investigators are homing in on whether Trump attempted to impede the government’s efforts to recover sensitive documents from his Mar-a-Lago compound in Florida, or if he directed anyone to do so on his behalf. The Post reported federal investigators have gathered evidence that Trump might have sifted through boxes of documents after he received a subpoena to return them, possibly to keep some of the files despite the order. As part of the probe, the government has also obtained the emails and text messages of Molly Michael, a former assistant who worked for Trump in the White House and at Mar-a-Lago during the documents episode. Any case would hinge on investigators proving Trump intended to impede or obstruct the subpoena, which could prove difficult. The Post added the government has evidence the former president asked his lawyers for advice on how to keep the records he had in his possession, which could demonstrate his intent to do so. A Trump spokesman told the publication the ongoing investigation has “no basis in facts or law.” Trump "personally examined" boxes of docs out of a "desire to keep certain things in his possession," report says Special counsel Jack Smith's team has amassed new evidence of potential obstruction by former President Donald Trump in the Mar-a-Lago documents investigation, according to The Washington Post. Justice Department and FBI investigators obtained "particularly helpful" emails and texts from Molly Michael, a former Trump White House aide who followed him to Mar-a-Lago before leaving the job last year, according to the report. The messages "provided investigators with a detailed understanding of the day-to-day activity at Mar-a-Lago at critical moments," according to the Post, and have used the messages to help understand Trump's actions last year. Investigators are particularly interested in whether Trump may have obstructed government efforts to collect and return all sensitive materials that he took home to Mar-a-Lago, according to the report. Investigators have spent much of their time looking at what happened after Trump's advisers received a subpoena in May demanding the return of all classified documents. Investigators have found evidence that Trump "looked through the contents of some of the boxes of documents in his home, apparently out of a desire to keep certain things in his possession," sources familiar with the investigation told the Post. The team now suspects that Trump "personally examined" at least some of the boxes moved from a Mar-a-Lago storage area after the subpoena was served, based on witness statements, security footage and documentary evidence, the sources said. Though Trump's team handed over some documents, the FBI later discovered. https://www.salon.com/2023/04/03/feels-obstruction-y-experts-say-it-may-be-game-over-after-aide-gives-doj-key-evidence/ bustamente 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mark F Posted April 3, 2023 Report Share Posted April 3, 2023 Trump is quite good at expressing himself in ways that can have more than one meaning. One of his well practised skills.... part of the whole slippery style he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted April 3, 2023 Report Share Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, bustamente said: Hilarious watching Hannity trying to give him an escape by saying “I can’t imagine you’d do this (set up) and did you ever do that?” to lead into getting a denial on the record, Trump doesn’t bite and give him the “of course not” so Sean doubles down with “I know you, you’d never actually do that, right”, and Trump repeats his absolute right to do so, so Hannity panics and is “OK I want to move on” but the mouth is already on auto-pilot. Trump never says “I did it” but says everything else to lead to only one reasonable inference being left, thinking he’s avoided an admission while still exerting his dominance with “but I am allowed to because I’m special, do it’s fine if I did”. Hannity’s abrupt tone shift and attempt to back away when he realizes what is happening, how his effort to provide cover has backfired, and how he is now powerless to stop it, is priceless. Edited April 4, 2023 by TrueBlue4ever bustamente 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted April 3, 2023 Report Share Posted April 3, 2023 Trump's team has filed a motion for no camera's in the court room, of course the at his next small rally Trump will be yelling that he wanted the world to see that he is innocent and the charges are bogus but the Manhattan DA wanted to keep the proceedings secret. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted April 3, 2023 Report Share Posted April 3, 2023 'A nightmare for Secret Service': Trump is hoping for 'kind of a Jesus Christ thing' with perp walk spectacle Former President Donald Trump is hoping his arraignment on Tuesday will be “kind of a Jesus Christ thing” as he plans to turn himself in during daylight hours at the Manhattan courthouse, Rolling Stone reports. According to a law enforcement official involved in security planning for the high-profile booking, Trump declined an option for a Zoom arraignment even as his Secret Service detail “argued in favor of holding the proceedings outside of court business hours, at night with minimal cameras and less risk.” “He wanted a perp walk, he wanted daylight hours,” the law enforcement official told Rolling Stone. “He wants to get out of the vehicle and walk up the stairs.” READ MORE:Trump believes being publicly 'handcuffed' for a 'perp walk' would be politically advantageous: report “This is a nightmare for Secret Service," the law enforcement source added. “But they can only strongly suggest — not order — that Trump enter through the secure tunnels.” A source “close to” the former president’s legal team said Trump is hoping to show his supporters that he’s “absorbing all this pain from all around from everywhere so you don’t have to. It’s kind of a Jesus Christ thing,” the legal team source said, describing it as “a powerful message” that tells the public “if they can do this to me they can do this to you.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted April 3, 2023 Report Share Posted April 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, Tracker said: describing it as “a powerful message” that tells the public “if they can do this to me they can do this to you.” a) yes- that is what happens when you are caught breaking the law... b) only if you cheat on your wife with a porn star and pay them hush money so as not to face questions while running for president and failing to disclose it as a campaign expense... then yes, it can happen to you Joe Public... it can happen to you... Nut bags the whole lot of them. Tracker and HardCoreBlue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted April 3, 2023 Report Share Posted April 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said: a) yes- that is what happens when you are caught breaking the law... b) only if you cheat on your wife with a porn star and pay them hush money so as not to face questions while running for president and failing to disclose it as a campaign expense... then yes, it can happen to you Joe Public... it can happen to you... Nut bags the whole lot of them. At this point, Trump is living in a fantasy world and nothing is going to change that, even if he is convicted in one or all of the several criminal indictments he is facing. It will only crumble when he is behind bars and then his reactions are going to be something bizarre. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted April 3, 2023 Report Share Posted April 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, Tracker said: At this point, Trump is living in a fantasy world and nothing is going to change that, even if he is convicted in one or all of the several criminal indictments he is facing. It will only crumble when he is behind bars and then his reactions are going to be something bizarre. He's a very bad human being to the core. His father was as well. And his family all are in their own gross ways. Yet some idolize and/or explain it away and/or say yea but everyone's bad minimizing the severity of this. This is not being dramatic. This is not the same as other bad people in American Politics. This is really dangerous for all of us sane people. Any average American would be wasting away in a jail cell. Justice is not blind and there are people above the law. I have absolutely no confidence Justice will prevail here. If anything, and predictably already reported, this is just another grifting opportunity for him, his family and his enablers. Until these ghouls feel real hurt (hurt financially, hurt status wise and hurt their ability to be independent) they will continue to mock, smirk and giggle their way to the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted April 3, 2023 Report Share Posted April 3, 2023 18 hours ago, bustamente said: Billionaire my ass, the only thing he knows how to do is grift, eventually the spigot will run dry especially will all the indictments that may be coming down the road. All I hear is grift, grift, grift, grift, grift. Tracker and blue_gold_84 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeart Posted April 3, 2023 Report Share Posted April 3, 2023 you know I'm starting to wonder where Trump was the night Nicole was murdered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 New Framing. Mehdi says it far more eloquently than I could ever explain it. bustamente 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 It's incredible how he has conned so many Americans Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 Yet, that ****-strain will prohibit any form of firearms, weapons or plastic butter knives at any event he appears at. Gun control to protect me, not to protect thee. bustamente, Tracker and blue_gold_84 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 3 hours ago, iHeart said: you know I'm starting to wonder where Trump was the night Nicole was murdered Can't tell, is OJ locked up in an outdoor jail cell or is he on exhibit at a zoo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 I wonder when these school aged kids grow up how many of them will vote Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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