Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

The CNN version

So how F##ked up does your country have to be to elect people like him and MTG. 

58 minutes ago, the watcher said:

 

So how F##ked up does your country have to be to elect people like him and MTG. 

I'm going to withhold my comment about this until after May 29 (Alberta Provincial election).

5 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

I'm going to withhold my comment about this until after May 29 (Alberta Provincial election).

6 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

I'm going to withhold my comment about this until after May 29 (Alberta Provincial election).

This above post might be the best one of the month.

2 hours ago, Tracker said:

And as soon as he was arrested, he spontaneously recalled being "inappropriately touched" by a congressman. 

Based on his history, I'm surprised he hasn't said he's not George Santos. 

3 hours ago, Wideleft said:

Rep. George Santos, the freshman Republican congressman whose myriad falsehoods became both a scandal and a national punchline, was charged with a host of financial crimes in court papers unsealed Wednesday.

Santos, 34, surrendered to federal authorities in the morning and is expected to appear in a federal courthouse in Central Islip, on Long Island, later Wednesday.  Officials said he has been charged with fraud, money laundering, theft of public funds, and false statements. The congressman and his lawyer did not respond to earlier messages seeking comment.

Santos, federal authorities said, lied to his own donors, the House of Representatives, state unemployment officials, and others, resulting in seven counts of wire fraud, three counts of money laundering, one count of theft of public funds, and two counts of lying to the House of Representatives on financial forms.

Santos has been the subject of multiple investigations. Prosecutors and federal agents have been scrutinizing his campaign finance reports and a host of related questions about his personal income and spending. Of particular interest to authorities is how Santos’s income seemed to fluctuate significantly, as well as a loan he made to his campaign of more than $700,000, according to people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss it.

The congressman also came under fire for allegedly pocketing $3,000 from a GoFundMe page he purportedly set up for a homeless veteran to help pay for surgery for the man’s dying service dog. Meanwhile, the Securities and Exchange Commission has interviewed people about Santos’s role in Harbor City Capital, an investment firm that was forced to shut down in 2021 after the SEC accused it of operating a “classic Ponzi scheme.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/05/10/george-santos-charges/

Oh my goodness, he was lying? That's really shocking. He seemed so honest and he's a Republican. They're such a trusting political party that they didn't do any research into his background. Welp! 

https://www.newsbreak.com/texas-state/3020390428442-republican-senator-proposes-armed-grandparents-and-bulletproof-doors-as-solutions-to-school-shootings

Your daily Americans are crazy post.

1 hour ago, the watcher said:

So how F##ked up does your country have to be to elect people like him and MTG. 

The only people who knew were the ones in the GOP. The voters didn't know who Santos L Halper was. Is it that shocking the GOP would lie to voters? 

2 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

https://www.newsbreak.com/texas-state/3020390428442-republican-senator-proposes-armed-grandparents-and-bulletproof-doors-as-solutions-to-school-shootings

Your daily hourly Americans are crazy post.

 

2 hours ago, the watcher said:

So how F##ked up does your country have to be to elect people like him and MTG. 

Carl Sagan 1996

“I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...

The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance”

 

 

The celebration of ignorance, has reached a peak, with Trump, and some of our Canadian Trumps, National and Provincial. who knows, might get worse.

It is frightening.

 

Edited May 10, 20232 yr by Mark F

20 minutes ago, JCon said:

Oh my goodness, he was lying? That's really shocking. He seemed so honest and he's a Republican. They're such a trusting political party that they didn't do any research into his background. Welp! 

To be fair- the Democrats **** the bed on that guy. They could have buried him before the election if they did ANY oppo research. 

Just now, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

To be fair- the Democrats **** the bed on that guy. They could have buried him before the election if they did ANY oppo research. 

Also true. The media should also do a better job. 

Just now, JCon said:

Also true. The media should also do a better job. 

They did though, unfortunately after he was elected. 

10 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

To be fair- the Democrats **** the bed on that guy. They could have buried him before the election if they did ANY oppo research. 

I'd wager that Republicans voters would not give a ****.  If Santos was still on the ballot, they'd still vote for him regardless of what was discovered pre-election.

2 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

I'd wager that Republicans voters would not give a ****.  If Santos was still on the ballot, they'd still vote for him regardless of what was discovered pre-election.

53.8% for Santos  
46.2% for Zimmerman
 

That is a big gap- you might be right. Although... the amount of stuff that came out might have been enough for 4% of the republicans to ... nah, you're probably right. 

19 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

To be fair- the Democrats **** the bed on that guy. They could have buried him before the election if they did ANY oppo research. 

To be honest, the Dems probably knew all about Santos but decided to let the GOP cover themselves with excrement by defending Santos as more and more bad stuff kept rolling out. Santos probably caused a lot of undecided voters to gravitate towards the Democrats. 

3 minutes ago, Tracker said:

To be honest, the Dems probably knew all about Santos but decided to let the GOP cover themselves with excrement by defending Santos as more and more bad stuff kept rolling out. Santos probably caused a lot of undecided voters to gravitate towards the Democrats. 

You give the Democrats far too much credit... I mean, you are right- this santos thing is a total boon for the Democrats, I feel it's the same story over and over, the Rs are just soooooo bad, that the Ds just passively benefit from the shitshow.

7 minutes ago, Tracker said:

To be honest, the Dems probably knew all about Santos but decided to let the GOP cover themselves with excrement by defending Santos as more and more bad stuff kept rolling out. Santos probably caused a lot of undecided voters to gravitate towards the Democrats. 

They knew nothing. Remember, Congress was up for grabs and both sides were doing anything they could to secure a majority. If the Dems knew Santos was not who he claimed to be, they would have gone after him. They failed. Santos was billed as a gay, moderate Republican that moderates could vote for. It was all a lie. 

29 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

They did though, unfortunately after he was elected. 

The North Shore Leader in Long Island exposed him before the election.  No one listened because I guess you can't trust the media?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/george-santos-grant-lally-long-island-b2267628.html

2 minutes ago, JCon said:

They knew nothing. Remember, Congress was up for grabs and both sides were doing anything they could to secure a majority. If the Dems knew Santos was not who he claimed to be, they would have gone after him. They failed. Santos was billed as a gay, moderate Republican that moderates could vote for. It was all a lie. 

The gay part is true.  

21 minutes ago, JCon said:

They failed.

complete failure. the Democrats have clammed up on this.

somebody should have been canned.

what research did their own candidate do?

awful.

 

Edited May 10, 20232 yr by Mark F

The charges for Santos are no joke if convicted he is going to jail

 

7 hours ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

53.8% for Santos  
46.2% for Zimmerman
 

That is a big gap- you might be right. Although... the amount of stuff that came out might have been enough for 4% of the republicans to ... nah, you're probably right. 

Zimmerman’s like, ffs I couldn’t beat this guy.

CNN wants ratings so bad that they think putting Trump on TV after he called them trash year after year so that he could replay his greatest hits shows you how desperate things are at CNN. 

41 minutes ago, bustamente said:

CNN wants ratings so bad that they think putting Trump on TV after he called them trash year after year so that he could replay his greatest hits shows you how desperate things are at CNN. 

You have to wonder if the 24 hour news cycle, largely created by CNN, will ever get back journalistic standards of years past? The media always chases ad revenue to survive but they've undercut their own product so much, there is just so little left. 

And, the advertisers are mainstream companies on CNN. The biggies. They don't seem to mind their products being associated with tabloid journalism. 

2 minutes ago, JCon said:

You have to wonder if the 24 hour news cycle, largely created by CNN, will ever get back journalistic standards of years past? The media always chases ad revenue to survive but they've undercut their own product so much, there is just so little left. 

And, the advertisers are mainstream companies on CNN. The biggies. They don't seem to mind their products being associated with tabloid journalism. 

Truthfully I haven't watch CNN in years

Just now, bustamente said:

Truthfully I haven't watch CNN in years

Oh, God no. It was bad before they brought Carlson and Carville on. They were both terrible. Terrible people and terrible commentators.