Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

9 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Thing is ma and pa maga aren’t looking for him to do these things, he’s emulating how they think, giving their lunacy mainstream legitimacy, He’s doing exactly what they want.

Trump has been a Democrat and Republican he quickly figured who he could hoodwink and take every penny they have.

Many more people are going to be killed and Republicans are okay with that

 

why wasn't his phone confiscated?

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Trump posts on Truth Social: "Seems so SURREAL"

From CNN's Brian Rokus

Former President Donald Trump posted to Truth Social as he was en route to the Manhattan district attorney's office and courthouse ahead of his arraignment, writing:

“Heading to Lower Manhattan, the Courthouse. Seems so SURREAL — WOW, they are going to ARREST ME. Can’t believe this is happening in America. MAGA!”

 

 

35 minutes ago, iHeart said:

why wasn't his phone confiscated?

 

Well this is what happens when you try a child as an adult.

51 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Well this is what happens when you try a child as an adult.

The collective meltdown of the MAGAt Cult the last few days has been fun to watch.

34 Felonies and more indictments to comes from Georgia and the Federal Government. Lets not forget about the rape trial if it goes thru it will be a doozy. 

1 hour ago, bustamente said:

34 Felonies

In a row?

3 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

In a row?

So much respect for an ex POTUS

52 minutes ago, bustamente said:

So much respect for an ex POTUS

? Not everything is a slight on the guy. Donald is and always will be a ****** bag. But this was likely a high security, well rehearsed movement from one area to another.

This entire thing has been made into a circus by the media and its weird. "They didn't hold the door! No one likes him!" 

Oooor it wasn't his job to hold the door, but to get him from place A to place B.

whole thing has been horrifying from the day Trump announced he was running, down to today.

and it will not end when he is gone.

The Republican party really is a gang of violent, ignorant thugs.

 

Edited April 5, 20232 yr by Mark F

The problem that the Republicans have is that if they don't make Trump their pick he most likely runs as an independent and they are screwed in the general election.

12 hours ago, Mark F said:

whole thing has been horrifying from the day Trump announced he was running, down to today.

and it will not end when he is gone.

The Republican party really is a gang of violent, ignorant thugs.

 

Yup and on full display. And if anyone thinks otherwise all we have to do is ‘roll tape’. 

11 hours ago, bustamente said:

The problem that the Republicans have is that if they don't make Trump their pick he most likely runs as an independent and they are screwed in the general election.

Which is kinda hilarious as I don't think he wins even if he is the rep choice. 

 

Humility, Respect

 

Even though Canadians, Europeans, British, get coverage of America in huge amounts, starting to think it is hard for us to really grasp the extent to which America is an extreme outlier.

i.e. their entire system of selection of judges, is just plain crazy. 

In Canada, this (wisconsin) kind of stuff, just does not happen. Or their Supreme Court fiasco, with a man credibly accused of sexual assault, being seated.

it is unfathomable for people from normal countries. 

 

 

 

The guy who called Trump a kook was on tv last night being emotional telling the viewers to pray for a give money to Trump. 

2 minutes ago, bustamente said:

The guy who called Trump a kook was on tv last night being emotional telling the viewers to pray for a give money to Trump. 

Maybe years down the road we will find out what Trump had on LG to make him the greasy slimy weak person he is now. Or maybe years down the road some people of influence will come out of their cult like trance and spill all in how they got sucked in and stayed there or a bit of blackmail and manipulation has caused these people’s insanity.

2 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Maybe years down the road we will find out what Trump had on LG

and others.

 you probably  remember that Trump's boss, Putin , got access to Republican server at the same time as the Democratic party server.

" I love wikileaks, Russia, if you're listening"

Edited April 5, 20232 yr by Mark F

19 hours ago, Mark F said:

whole thing has been horrifying from the day Trump announced he was running, down to today.

and it will not end when he is gone.

The Republican party really is a gang of violent, ignorant thugs.

 

And proud of it.

National Security Officials Testify That Trump Tried To Seize Voting Machines

In bombshell testimony to the special counsel grand jury, Trump administration national security officials testified that they had to tell Trump they didn’t have the authority to seize voting machines after the 2020 election.

CNN reported:

Chad Wolf, the former acting Homeland Security secretary, and his former deputy Ken Cuccinelli were asked about discussions inside the administration around DHS seizing voting machines when they appeared before the grand jury earlier this year, according to three people familiar with the proceedings. Cuccinelli testified that he “made clear at all times” that DHS did not have the authority to take such a step, one of the sources said.

Trump’s former national security adviser Robert O’Brien, in a closed-door interview with federal prosecutors earlier this year, also recounted conversations about seizing voting machines after the 2020 election, including during a heated Oval Office meeting that Trump participated in, according to a source familiar with the matter.

The fact that those conversations happened in the Oval Office suggests that Trump was trying to get the federal government to seize the voting machines in swing states so that he could claim that there had been fraud and stay in power.

6 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

Which is kinda hilarious as I don't think he wins even if he is the rep choice. 

No Labels candidate will syphon enough votes to make it very competitive for trump.

51 minutes ago, Tracker said:

National Security Officials Testify That Trump Tried To Seize Voting Machines

In bombshell testimony to the special counsel grand jury, Trump administration national security officials testified that they had to tell Trump they didn’t have the authority to seize voting machines after the 2020 election.

CNN reported:

Chad Wolf, the former acting Homeland Security secretary, and his former deputy Ken Cuccinelli were asked about discussions inside the administration around DHS seizing voting machines when they appeared before the grand jury earlier this year, according to three people familiar with the proceedings. Cuccinelli testified that he “made clear at all times” that DHS did not have the authority to take such a step, one of the sources said.

Trump’s former national security adviser Robert O’Brien, in a closed-door interview with federal prosecutors earlier this year, also recounted conversations about seizing voting machines after the 2020 election, including during a heated Oval Office meeting that Trump participated in, according to a source familiar with the matter.

The fact that those conversations happened in the Oval Office suggests that Trump was trying to get the federal government to seize the voting machines in swing states so that he could claim that there had been fraud and stay in power.

I’m sure Merrick Garland and crew are all over this said no one ever.

4 hours ago, Tracker said:

National Security Officials Testify That Trump Tried To Seize Voting Machines

 

Mr. Smith might be laying groundwork for conspiracy charges.  I think, maybe, conspiracy charge helps prosecution with admissibility.

man those creeps must be sh** on themselves right now, specially with Don at the wheel of the bus.

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found this:

"Conspiracy is a crime. A criminal conspiracy takes place when one or more people engage in criminal activity. Regardless if they do not commit the crime to its completion. The crime of conspiracy can be charged to people who plan and attempt further steps and bring it into action.

In some states, someone can be charged for criminal conspiracy even if the crime never happened. The act of planning the crime itself is a violation of the law. Explanation of this law, however, is a bit complicated and nuanced. Sometimes the law turns ‘just talks’ into enough to be a punishable crime and sometimes it waits till the commission of the crime. Several complexities make this area of law intricate to understand.

Similar to criminal solicitation and attempt, conspiracy is an inchoate crime.

This particularly means that to attach a liability, criminal activity does not need to be attempted successfully."

can you imagine them figuring out who drafted those orders😂

 

flip" time?

Edited April 6, 20232 yr by Mark F