Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

32 minutes ago, JCon said:

Fox has already done their full retracting. All their talking heads, including chief racist, Tucker, and chief idiot Sean, have done it. They don't mention Dominion now when they're peddling their election fraud idiocy. 

The retractions were weak......they will have to put out stronger ones.   As far as damage done, they will be sued, regardless...

1 hour ago, do or die said:

The retractions were weak......they will have to put out stronger ones.   As far as damage done, they will be sued, regardless...

probably got an argument that dominion hasnt suffered a loss. but its the states, they like the punitary.

There are multiple reports coming out of the US from credible sources that Trump's inner circle and possibly Trump himself were directly involved in planning the riot on January 6th. This was a serious attempt to overthrow a legitimately elected government and should warrant the direst of charges against the rioters and those within the GOP and Trump's camp. Apparently there is no remorse whatsoever on the part of these, only regret that it did not pan out. And it did not succeed patially because of the stupidity of Trump and his advisors in choosing incompetent lawyers (ie: Giuliani).  The prime reason it did not succeed was that there was a loose coalition of Democrat and progressive leadership who accurately foresaw what Trump would try to do and how he would try to do it. The bottom line is that the coup came a lot closer to succeeding than most people and media are admitting.

🤔 sanders resume is ....... slim.

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Sarah Elizabeth Sanders (née Huckabee; born August 13, 1982),[1] commonly known as Sarah Huckabee Sanders, is an American campaign manager and political adviser who served as White House press secretary under PresidentDonald Trump from 2017 to 2019. 

 

GOP operatives send clear signals about the next attack on democracy
   
Hours after President Biden declared that "democracy has prevailed" during his inaugural address, longtime Republican strategist Karl Rove urged Republicans to pressure GOP election officials and legislators to create "a model election code" to reconsider the laws surrounding 2020's two voting options that lead to the presidential election's record turnout.

"Republicans should also encourage GOP secretaries of state and state lawmakers to develop a model election code," Rove wrote in a January 20 commentary for the Wall Street Journal entitled, "The Republican Future Starts Now."

"The job of proposing electoral reforms shouldn't be based on the unsupported claims of widespread fraud peddled by Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell," Rove continued. "Instead, the goal should be to suggest measures that restore public confidence in our democracy. How do states with extensive mail-in and early voting like Florida and Texas get it right?"

Rove's commentary comes as Republican-majority legislatures in battleground states such as Georgia, Pennsylvania and Arizona have proposed bills or convened hearings to review the laws that allowed people to vote with mailed-out ballots or early in-person in 2020.

"Whenever Karl Rove writes a piece in the Wall Street Journal, the history of it suggests that Democrats should pay careful attention," said David Daley, author of Unrigged: How Americans are Battling Back to Save Democracy. "Because the Wall Street Journal is where Republicans can signal to their donor class their key projects."

In March 2010, Rove penned a Wall Street Journal commentary openly discussing the GOP's REDMAP project, which targeted 107 state legislative seats that "would give them control of drawing district lines for nearly 190 congressional seats." REDMAP succeeded, creating GOP majority legislatures and congressional delegations in the otherwise purple states of Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina and Alabama.

GOP operatives send clear signals about the next attack on democracy - Alternet.org

18 minutes ago, Mark F said:

🤔 sanders resume is ....... slim.

 

Never held public office.  Serial liar.  Fake purveyor of Christian values.
More than qualified to run in a Trumpist State.  Outstanding candidate....10/10

Founder of pro-Trump 'Walk Away' campaign charged in connection with Capitol insurrection
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/535738-founder-of-pro-trump-walk-away-campaign-charged-in-connection-with

AOC has been on fire lately

 

9 hours ago, bustamente said:

AOC has been on fire lately

 

Where is she wrong on this? She's bang on. 

AOC has consistently failed to show proper deference to her political elders, of both parties.   She has also fallen short in silently taking criticism from such entities.

Good for her....

AOC gets straight  to the core issues with simple eloquence.

She actually does "put on a pair of comfortable shoes" and walk with union workers.

If the leaders of her party had any shame, they would elevate her, not fight her.

she is everything needed right now.

Edited January 26, 20215 yr by Mark F

25 minutes ago, Mark F said:

AOC gets straight  to the core issues with simple eloquence.

She actually does "put on a pair of comfortable shoes" and walk with union workers.

If the leaders of her party had any shame, they would elevate her, not fight her.

she is everything needed right now.

Literally was working as waitress as she campaigned in 2018. If anyone in American politics knows what actual life is like in the States its her. 

Yikes! Now these are some photoshop skills.

There are witnesses who can testify that Trump enjoyed watching MAGA riots: NYT's Haberman
   
Former President Donald Trump's impeachment trial is scheduled to begin in the United States Senate next month, and New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman believes that there are witnesses who could make things significantly more uncomfortable for Republicans.

Appearing on CNN Tuesday, Haberman reiterated that her own sources have said they personally saw Trump enjoying watching his supporters riot at the United States Capitol building on January 6th.

"He was watching, enjoying what he was seeing in part because he was enjoying just people defending him and in part because... it stopped the certification [of Biden's election]," she said. "That was what he wanted to see."

Haberman would not reveal any of her sources, but she speculated that Democrats could track some of them down and call them as witnesses at the president's Senate trial if they wanted to do so.

"I think if witnesses are called for this trial, I don't know that they will be, but if witnesses are called for this trial, I suspect they can find some people who they might be able to try to get to talk about this," she said.

Capitol Police chief apologizes to Congress — admits department's failure amid deadly riot
   
The acting U.S. Capitol Police chief is addressing the deadly riot that took place on Jan. 6, admitting the law enforcement agency does bear responsibility for failing to contain the angry mob of Trump supporters that breached Capitol security.

On Tuesday, Jan. 26, acting Capitol Police chief Yogananda Pittman delivered his testimony before lawmakers during the House Appropriations Committee, according to The Hill.

"On Jan. 6, in the face of a terrorist attack by tens of thousands of insurrectionists determined to stop the certification of Electoral College votes, the department failed to meet its own high standards as well as yours," Pittman said.

Pittman's remarks come nearly three weeks after the civil unrest which led to the deaths of five people. In the days leading up to the U.S. Capitol riot, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) released an intelligence warning of violence on the day of the Electoral College certification. However, based on how violence erupted at the Capitol, the warnings were not taken as seriously as they should have been.

In the statement, Pittman went on to admit that the law enforcement agency could have done more to combat the violence that ensued. "We knew that there was a strong potential for violence and that Congress was the target," Pittman said. "The department prepared in order to meet these challenges, but we did not do enough."

Wit, something Trump has never displayed

 

 

14 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Wit, something Trump has never displayed

 

 

Doocy cannot speak that way to the President of the United States!

Rand Paul made a point of order against the trial, it was defeated with 5 Republicans going against the point, any idiot can see that they will never convict Trump

Edited January 26, 20215 yr by bustamente

3 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Rand Paul made a point of order against the trial, it was defeated with 5 Republicans going against the point, any idiot can see that they will never convict Trump

Yes, they will. It's a Democrat led Senate. He'll be convicted and the trial is going to be quite interesting. 

2 minutes ago, JCon said:

Yes, they will. It's a Democrat led Senate. He'll be convicted and the trial is going to be quite interesting. 

To convict is not a simple majority, they need 2/3 majority, best the Democrats could hope for is for enough Republicans not to vote making making a 2/3  majority easier to get.

Edited January 26, 20215 yr by bustamente

Just now, bustamente said:

To convict is not a simple majority, they need 2/3 majority

Ah, yes, correct. No, they won't convict but the process is great for revealing information that can be used in a courtroom. 

I find it incredible that 45 Republican Senators can't read or just don't want to read what there own Constitution says, Trump still has many of them rattled and scared for up coming elections

8 minutes ago, bustamente said:

I find it incredible that 45 Republican Senators can't read or just don't want to read what there own Constitution says, Trump still has many of them rattled and scared for up coming elections

They need to swear their oaths on the constitution not the bible.

If Trump is not impeached in the Senate, Republican legislators will be officially reduced to the status of Orange galley slaves, for the foreseeable future.   How do they think that is going to work out?  

Wisconsin Priest Who Held Voter Fraud Exorcisms Leaves Diocese

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A priest who livestreamed exorcisms aimed at rooting out what he, former President Donald Trump and some Trump supporters have falsely claimed was widespread voting fraud in the presidential election has left a Roman Catholic diocese in Wisconsin.

The Diocese of Madison said it and the Rev. John Zuhlsdorf reached a mutual decision on his departure. Zuhlsdorf will relocate from the diocese ”to pursue other opportunities,” the diocese said in a statement earlier this month.

“The Bishop of Madison is grateful to the Reverend Zuhlsdorf for his faithful support of the diocese’s seminarians and priests, thanks him for his many years of steadfast ministry serving the diocese, and wishes him the best in his future endeavors,” the statement said.

Zuhlsdorf did not immediately respond to a phone message and email Tuesday seeking comment.

Zuhlsdorf claimed he had permission from Madison Bishop Donald Hying to conduct the exorcisms. Hying said, however, that he didn’t give Zuhlsdorf permission to conduct exorcisms related to “partisan political activity,” but rather approved an exorcism for “alleviation from the scourge of the coronavirus pandemic.”

Do you know who’s licking their chops biding their time right now as this all unfolds? The articulate intelligent wackjobs who are coming up right behind Trump thinking if dum dum Trump and his equally stupid enablers can almost pull this off with little to no real consequence felt, imagine what we can do with this broken system.