Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

A couple of real adults there. 

2 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Jay Sekulow is a bad lawyer and a real idiot, you get what you pay for Trumpy

Any competent lawyer with even minimal self-self-respect  would not embarrass him/herself with arguing an absurd proposition, but Sekulow is probably being well-paid which will ease his humiliation.

55 minutes ago, pigseye said:

You do realize that there is no legal obligation for a president to turn over their financials, don't you? 

There is when they are subpoenaed by congress.  This issue isnt whether they;re allowed to ask, its whether Trump is allowed to say no.  The reason its at SCOTUS is because every level of judiciary has said he cannot say no.

You do know that, dont you?  Again, you're defending the guy you claim you dont like and cant defend.  lol

Edited May 12, 20205 yr by The Unknown Poster

23 minutes ago, Tracker said:

It within the realm of possibility that Trump would start a war in order to boost his popularity as Margaret Thatcher did over the Falkland Islands. It worked for her, as it did for Reagan when he ordered the invasion of Grenada to oust the few dozen engineers from Cuba who were working to update Grenada's infrastructure. Everyone forgot the Lebanon disaster. Thus he is a danger to other nations as well.

Well he did lob some Tomahawks into Syria so technically that was a military incursion of some sort. 

The pandemic Paycheck Protection Program working like a charm:

Coronavirus stimulus loans go to oil and gas companies that have previously bought back shares:

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/497442-ppp-loans-go-to-oil-and-gas-companies-that-have-previously-bought

1 hour ago, pigseye said:

You do realize that there is no legal obligation for a president to turn over their financials, don't you? 

Sure there is, they were subpoenaed by congress as part of their over sight on the executive branch of the government and every court has said "Yeah bro, you gotta hand em over"

But you knew that right?  

Have a feeling that the SCOTUS will kick the can down the road till Trump is out of office

2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Sure there is, they were subpoenaed by congress as part of their over sight on the executive branch of the government and every court has said "Yeah bro, you gotta hand em over"

But you knew that right?  

And the SC will decide if the subpoena is valid or if it's just harassment of a political rival. 

10 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Have a feeling that the SCOTUS will kick the can down the road till Trump is out of office

If they do, that would allow Trump to continue as he has been by default. Under Canadian law, and I am not sure if it applies in the Excited States, if an action is legally questionable but allowed to continue unchallenged, it becomes precedent and is referred as a convention. Kicking the question down the road would be the worst of all possible outcomes- it would justify Trump's actions but leave the door open for a Democratic president to be prosecuted.

17 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Have a feeling that the SCOTUS will kick the can down the road till Trump is out of office

There is a good chance they will find the finance committee is over reaching.  But the House Intelligence committee has an obvious need for the information.  And while they'd likely find that a higher standard should exist when it involves the President, the Manhatten DA has surely reached that standard.  They could kick back on that one.  But they still have the Paula Jones precedent to deal with.

15 minutes ago, pigseye said:

And the SC will decide if the subpoena is valid or if it's just harassment of a political rival. 

Thats not really their job.  They're not deciding if Congress has a right to ask.  Congress has the right under the constitution.  It was inherent as a check and balance.  SCOTUS is deciding whether Trump and/or the entities involved can refuse.  

You're twisting this to make it about Congress when it's about Trump.  You like to bring up Clinton so if you want to use a witch hunt over a BJ as the standard by which Congress can investigate a President, that wont turn out well for your boy.

47 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

so if you want to use a witch hunt over a BJ as the standard

They started investigating Clinton long before Lewinsky was even in the Whitehouse. 

It was a complete which hunt. I am still not sure what the Clinton's ever did to the GOP to draw their ire so....

5 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

They started investigating Clinton long before Lewinsky was even in the Whitehouse. 

It was a complete which hunt. I am still not sure what the Clinton's ever did to the GOP to draw their ire so....

There were country folk from Arkansas...pissed off the elite establishment.  And yeah, theres a great book, I think Toobin write it, about the witch hunt into Clinton.  They would have impeached him for parking tickets if they had to.  Its funny because the Clintons are probably the most investigated politicians in America and yet...nothing.  If Trump had to stand up to a fraction of the same scrutiny he'd be in jail for several lifetimes.

Justice may yet be served 

I guess this means, even if it’s dismissed, that some other opinions, perhaps scathing, may get on the record and widely heard. 

 

 

Edited May 13, 20205 yr by The Unknown Poster

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

They started investigating Clinton long before Lewinsky was even in the Whitehouse. 

It was a complete which hunt. I am still not sure what the Clinton's ever did to the GOP to draw their ire so....

They were investigating Whitewater, and tripped over Monica, by accident...

36 minutes ago, do or die said:

They were investigating Whitewater, and tripped over Monica, by accident...

Well, she was down there on her knees out of line of sight.....

How true...

Howard Stern: “The oddity in all of this is the people Trump despises most, love him the most. The people who are voting for Trump for the most part... he wouldn’t even let them in a f*cking hotel. He’d be disgusted by them.”

As predicted, it didn't take the Trump mouthpieces on Fox - Carlson, Hannity and Ingraham.... long to crank on Dr. Fauci, after his testimony yesterday, calling him a buffoon, dictator and Democratic enabler.  Also praising Rand Paul as the person who should be trusted to deliver the straight goods on the virus!!

Hard to make this stuff up.....but somehow Fox manages to do it.

Uh oh,

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On Wednesday morning, the president declared victory on Twitter: "Big Congressional win in California for Mike Garcia, taking back a seat from the Democrats. This is the first time in many years that a California Dem seat has flipped back to a Republican. Also, Tom Tiffany beat his Democrat rival BIG in Wisconsin. Two great Congressional WINS!"

 

1 hour ago, Mr Dee said:

How true...

Howard Stern: “The oddity in all of this is the people Trump despises most, love him the most. The people who are voting for Trump for the most part... he wouldn’t even let them in a f*cking hotel. He’d be disgusted by them.”

Who needs hotels when you have corn fields? 

MAGAts love blaming others. It's everyone's fault but their's. A pathetic lot.

Edited May 13, 20205 yr by JCon

1 hour ago, Mark H. said:

Who needs hotels when you have corn fields? 

Howard Stern: Trump ‘despises’ his own voters and would be ‘disgusted'

President Donald Trump wasn’t always a far-right Republican and an ally of the Christian Right. The Trump of the 1980s and 1990s was more of a center-right Blue Dog Democrat, and in 2004, he told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that “the economy does better under the Democrats” than it does under Republicans. Regardless, Trump has remade himself as the GOP’s leading far-right culture warrior. And according to shock jock Howard Stern, Trump’s base are the type of people he “despises the most.”

Stern has known Trump for many years and interviewed him on his radio show (which now airs on SiriusXM) in the past. The New York Daily News reports that Stern recently told listeners that Trump would be “disgusted” by the type of voters who now support him.

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Trump is one of those guys who has money but is still shunned by the upper class because he completely lacks class. That's who he desperately wants the approval of, instead he has to settle for Jimbo and his fellow racist white trash losers. 

Manafort friend on Trumpidiot fears of Corvid 19, you get out of jail, Cohen, no not you as you are a enemy of the great King and must stay in jail possibly catch the virus and maybe even die............America