Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

It’s the citizens fault for not praying hard enough. 

 

I hope he means his own 

 

4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I hope he means his own 

 

How do you tackle mental health when you can't even provide all of your citizens basic healthcare? I assume they'll be locking more people away.

Edited February 15, 20187 yr by JCon

4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I hope he means his own 

 

He plans to check himself in?

Its nonsense.  What changed after vegas?  They find ways to deflect from the real issue and people forget about it in time.  Like the cops can suddenly be mental healthy professionals or lock away anyone they suspect of anything.   Its ridiculous.  Trump always sounds like he's struggling with these prepared speeches where he has to sound presidential and caring.  He doesnt give a ****.  Not a single mention of "gun".    If this kid bought beer, they'd arrest him.  Owning an AR-15?  His constitutional right. 

Americans can change this.  There are published lists of congress members who receive money from the NRA.  Do not vote for them.  If unsure, vote Democrat.  This issue is too important to be party loyal. 

There are very fine people on both sides of the gun.  Both sides.

Obama couldn't get it done in 8 years, what makes you think Trump would do anything?

This is a consequence of a systemic problem with American society. 

no one has been able to get it done even Clinton and Bush didn't get it done during their times in office

1 minute ago, iHeart said:

no one has been able to get it done even Clinton and Bush didn't get it done during their times in office

Clinton did bring some reforms forward. I believe they've all been reversed.

I bet Hillary would have put them back

President has limited power.  Blame congress.  Right now you have a government where the same party controls all three branches.  If the GOP (from Trump to Congress) wanted gun control, they'd have it tomorrow.   Its that simple.  Congress stonewalled many Obama attempts at gun control.  They wont even debate it.  They are bought and paid for.  Period.

I would have defunded the NRA

4 minutes ago, iHeart said:

I bet Hillary would have put them back

Supposedly wikileaks released emails showing Hilary was harder on gun control than she let on and was going to try to end run congress using executive orders.

If a Democratic President and Congress enacted strict control, Im not sure it would ever be undone.  People who cry about their rights would eventually see that nothing changed.  Only the crazies thaty feel the need to stockpile assault weapons for the coming end of times would be mad.  And they probably shouldnt have guns at all.

and here's where it gets more upsetting he was training with white supremacists

http://www.tmz.com/2018/02/15/florida-shooting-nikolas-cruz-trained-florida-white-supremacist-group-rof/

Edited February 15, 20187 yr by iHeart

Trump’s base

 

At least the kid wasn't old enough to beat his wife......

54 minutes ago, iHeart said:

I would have defunded the NRA

How do you defund the NRA?

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/bess-kalb-nra-tweets_us_5a84ee69e4b0058d5565cbac

Kimmel Writer Calls Out GOP In Blistering Replies To 'Prayers' After Florida Shooting

30 minutes ago, JCon said:

How do you defund the NRA?

To start, take away their charity status.

The  Center for Responsive Politics , a nonpartisan think tank that tracks money in politics, found that in 2016 more than half of the members of the House of Representatives — or 232 of the 435 — received money from gun rights groups like the National Rifle Association and Gun Owners of America. That money went disproportionately to Republicans. Only nine Democrats received campaign contributions from these groups.

Some charity.

Edited February 15, 20187 yr by do or die

1 hour ago, pigseye said:

Obama couldn't get it done in 8 years, what makes you think Trump would do anything?

This is a consequence of a systemic problem with American society. 

Cuz he has all three branches of government?

2 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Cuz he has all three branches of government?

Yup.  He could ban automatic rifles tomorrow, assuming the GOP wouldnt turn on him.   He wont though. 

The Federal Assault Weapons Ban enacted in 1994 expired in 2004.  Currently 43 states have no ban on assault weapons.   But no real need for any form of legislation on this.......

16 minutes ago, do or die said:

The Federal Assault Weapons Ban enacted in 1994 expired in 2004.  Currently 43 states have no ban on assault weapons.   But no real need for any form of legislation on this.......

And whats the argument?  2nd Amendment?  Thats so silly.  Even if you interpret the amendment to guarantee gun rights, which many people do NOT believe it does, people treat that amendment as if it's written in stone.  They have changed or added/deleted amendments all the time.  They are not written in stone.

And one can make the argument that an assault weapon is totally unneeded.  If the argument is that you cant cherry pick when it comes to right the bear arms, whats next?  Can they walk into WalMart and buy a missile launcher?  How about a nuclear weapon?  No thats crazy.  Civilians having assault weapons is crazy.  The rest of the world laughs at America on this issue.

One good piece of news for Trump this week, blondie is not spilling her guts, maybe next week.