I see some posters are still clinging onto this one...  that ship has sailed...

Yup, our OL is not that good but... but here's some of the starting centres so far this year...

Calgary - Roman Grozman, a 4th round 2016 pick that we valued less than Shayne Gauthier... 

Sask - Andrew Jones, an aging vet who really really can't snap

BC - Cody Husband, a journeyman OL who really should be a 6th OL

Edm - Sorenson, we rejoiced when he left...

Ham - Mathieu Girard... who?

You're telling me that every other QB has more time than Willy?  

And every other OC is better than Lapo?

DelMonaco can piece together Grozman (4th round), Bergman (5th), Thorn (7th) and Wilson (undrafted) but Wylie can't even get production out of Stanley Bryant...

Not buying it anymore.

 

Just now, Super Duper Negatron said:

Remember the oline we had before Kelly !et everyone leave? Memories...

Also quarterback...

I think part of the reason that we've seen a dink and dunk type of O is because our OL is bad and our OC and O coaches for that matter recognize these guys aren't good and are telling our qbs to make the quick short pass 

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

against the run? hes an ol not a dl. And no he was solid before this year in which the whole line has looked bad.

 

You know what Perfect meant & no he was never solid. He was constantly hurt.

10 rushes for 28 yds, with Andrew Harris carrying the rock.   Beyond bad.

2 hours ago, do or die said:

10 rushes for 28 yds, with Andrew Harris carrying the rock.   Beyond bad.

It's not like that kind of production is new for Andrew Harris.  He put up numbers like that all the time in BC.

Neufeld is not an all-star but he is serviceable when used in the right scheme plus he has the right passport. Considering the struggles of the O-line, I am beginning to wonder if Wylie is as good as he is supposed to be.

13 hours ago, Atomic said:

I'd like to see Bond at tackle but I've actually thought Hardrick has been one of our better OL thus far.... I'd go with:

Bryant - Hardrick - Goossen - Chungh - Bond... start D. Jones at field corner to balance the ratio

This is what I'd do for the ol. Imo Hardrick has been our best ol.

I'd probably make the ratio switch at safety though.

4 hours ago, tracker said:

Neufeld is not an all-star but he is serviceable when used in the right scheme plus he has the right passport. Considering the struggles of the O-line, I am beginning to wonder if Wylie is as good as he is supposed to be.

Serviceable? When? He's always hurt. He's well paid to sit on the Injured list. He can't help us so he should be cut.

Neufeld 'was' serviceable in Saskatchewan... but no one blinked when he was traded.  

On a team that desperately needed to protect its QB, starting another journeyman at RT seems like a critical mistake.  Especially one who is a guaranteed injury.  Even moving on to an Andrew Jones or Corey Watman would have been an upgrade from Neufeld.

The inability to find an import RT for now 7 maybe 8 years...?  That is scary.

 

4 hours ago, tracker said:

Neufeld is not an all-star but he is serviceable when used in the right scheme plus he has the right passport. Considering the struggles of the O-line, I am beginning to wonder if Wylie is as good as he is supposed to be.

I've been wondering about this all season and most of last.

Yup, takes time to draft and get the CDN's up to speed....in the interim, we have desperately needed some top flight import OL.  Massive recruitment fail.

Last year we made our "big splash" to upgrade the OL  Neufeld and Picard. 

Ouch......

12 minutes ago, iso_55 said:

Serviceable? When? He's always hurt. He's well paid to sit on the Injured list. He can't help us so he should be cut.

Yes, his brittleness is a concern, but at the last Banjo Bowl I met his parents and they seemed to be very nice people.

4 minutes ago, do or die said:

Yup, takes time to draft and get the CDN's up to speed....in the interim, we have desperately needed some top flight import OL.  Massive recruitment fail.

Last year we made our "big splash" to upgrade the OL  Neufeld and Picard. 

Ouch......

Really starting to wonder about that Greaves trade now... its great replacing the pick we used on Waggoner but sure could use a stable presence at Guard.  In fact, Morley would help this OL...

Chungh has taken a step back this year, really wonder if there's too much pressure on both him and Goossen.

4 minutes ago, Floyd said:

Really starting to wonder about that Greaves trade now... its great replacing the pick we used on Waggoner but sure could use a stable presence at Guard.  In fact, Morley would help this OL...

Chungh has taken a step back this year, really wonder if there's too much pressure on both him and Goossen.

When we start talking about bringing Steve Morley back, we have reached the outer limits of desperation.

5 hours ago, tracker said:

Neufeld is not an all-star but he is serviceable when used in the right scheme plus he has the right passport. Considering the struggles of the O-line, I am beginning to wonder if Wylie is as good as he is supposed to be.

I am in this camp as well. There are ALWAYS schemes that can be done that give the oline a chance I rarely see that done.

1 hour ago, Dragon37 said:

I am in this camp as well. There are ALWAYS schemes that can be done that give the oline a chance I rarely see that done.

we saw some of it in the 1 win. Moving the pocket, half roll full boot, slide protection shovel passes etc. idk why we stopped using them.

20 hours ago, iso_55 said:

Serviceable? When? He's always hurt. He's well paid to sit on the Injured list. He can't help us so he should be cut.

Hold on amigo, with the shortage of Natl. talent on the O-line Neufeld shouldn't be disposed of until his backup is standing in front of him and even then it's not a great idea.  Walters has moved Natl. talent before he was ready to do so before, so hopefully he's learned from those lessons.

20 hours ago, tracker said:

When we start talking about bringing Steve Morley back, we have reached the outer limits of desperation.

I think it was Walby joking on twitter that Morley needs to put that 100 lbs back on and get suited up!

I don't think cutting Neufeld is a good idea.. I've always though he would be a perfect 6th man... wouldn't play enough to get hurt and he has to versatility to play almost every position on the line in case of injury...

Either way, going into the season with Neufeld at RT and no proven tackle backing him up was not a great idea.

2 minutes ago, Floyd said:

Either way, going into the season with Neufeld at RT and no proven tackle backing him up was not a great idea.

I was very concerned about how long Neufeld would play. I think he is done. Can't count on a guy that's never there when you need him. Hardrick played Guard and Tackle here last year and IMHO thought he played pretty well. I would have liked to have seen him back with us this year.  He has been your best Lineman this year. Love his enthusiasm too, real team guy. I'd start him at tackle the rest of the way. Goosen has been your worst, not sure who else you guys have to throw in there but something has to give.

Neufeld's biggest fan is Kyle Walters, he's going to be a staple on this team until he either breaks beyond repair or Walters is canned. Neufeld was one of the very first moves Walters made and he paid more than he should have to get him because he feels that strongly about him. 

Next up...!

Bryant-Bond-Goossen-Chungh-Hardrick 

2 hours ago, bearpants said:

. wouldn't play enough to get hurt and he has to versatility to play almost every position on the line in case of injury...

Ironic.....

Here's what OL depth means...

Sorenson gets injured, Groulx already on 6-game...  

Rottier moves to C and Chris Greaves plugs in... sixth OL is now Figueroa with David Beard their 2015 pick still being groomed on roster

This isn't even one of the best lines in the league... but at least Hervey knows how to build from the OL out.

23 minutes ago, Floyd said:

Here's what OL depth means...

Sorenson gets injured, Groulx already on 6-game...  

Rottier moves to C and Chris Greaves plugs in... sixth OL is now Figueroa with David Beard their 2015 pick still being groomed on roster

This isn't even one of the best lines in the league... but at least Hervey knows how to build from the OL out.

Now they're just rubbing it in.