Fatty Liver
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Confirms Harris didn't take much of a pay cut from O'Day, leaving no room for Brown.
The Riders turned his $250,000 February 1 roster bonus into a signing bonus within his reworked 2024 contract. He has a $189,500 base salary, $15,000 in marketing money, $13,800 in housing and $5,000 in travel for a total of $473,300 in hard money. Harris has playtime incentives worth up to $27,000, broken down to $1,500 per game for playing 51 percent or more of the offensive snaps.
Despite taking his total down $24,700 from $525,000 to $500,300, Harris takes home more money after taxes. American players who maintain a permanent residence south of the border are taxed 15 percent on any signing bonus — much less than their usual Canadian tax rate.
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8 hours ago, Doublezero said:
RedBlacks will have to wrestle him from the clutches of Sask first, apparently. Hate the thought of Brown in Sask BTW:
...." O’Day would not answer questions about (Dru) Brown directly while he remains under contract with Winnipeg but did admit landing the quarterback being dubbed ‘the next one’ by fans and media makes for a nice hypothetical. “That would be a very attractive scenario,” he grinned. “That’s the idea is you’d like to have the succession plan in place." https://3downnation.com/2024/01/13/riders-very-aware-of-need-for-trevor-harris-succession-plan-at-quarterback/#google_vignette
Trevor Harris may have taken a haircut in Sask, but it's nowhere near as big as the one Masoli just received from Ottawa.
"The 35-year-old receives a $45,000 signing bonus in his reworked agreement totalling $133,800 in hard money. He can earn up to $90,000 more in playtime incentives, broken down to $5,000 per game for playing 51 percent or more of the team's offensive snaps. His maximum earning potential is $236,800."
In 2023 Masoli was scheduled to earn.
Hard money: $425,000
Maximum value: $433,000The RB's are opening the door wide for Brown to step on in at $250k + playtime incentives. Masoli will make tasty trade bait mid-season if he comes back healthy and in shape.
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1 hour ago, JCon said:
If we sign a promising rookie this year, they'll be under contract until Zach leaves.
Brown is just unfortunate timing.
How often has that strategy worked out in the past? Maybe once with Dieter Brock and twice if Brown turns out to be a bonafide starter elsewhere.
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1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Not sustainable if the QB is garbage yes. And you can’t draft and develop linemen. And you overpay a bunch of free agents without being able to backfill your roster. Yes.
Collaros deal is fine. The SMS limit is higher and he’s making over 100k less than those guys were.
The only way you do anything with his deal is if you’re willing to trade or release him.
Which is a real issue as they will not have the budget to attract or hang onto a decent backup until Zach's contract expires or he retires. The next starting QB will most likely step in from elsewhere once he's gone, instead of developing in house like Brown has.
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10 minutes ago, Blue In BC said:
Yeah and the Lions gutted the rest of their roster to pay Reilly that much. They finished at 5 -13 and out of the play offs. That's why it's not sustainable.
It would be interesting to examine the roster changes made after Reilly retired, because the next season Rourke took over and they thrived. Receiver would be an obvious position to look at but the Lions have had a pretty good pipeline of young receivers developing the last few years and other than Whitehead and Rhymes can't think of any others that came in through FA. In the same time period they also lost Burnham.
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2 minutes ago, Brandon said:
You do realize when he dons his fur coat that his super powers return right?
Believe it or not Strev. lost track of that fur coat, it should have been put up for auction for a charity or in the BB HOF as a preserved artifact. In an interview he said he borrowed it from the mother of his GF's at the time, but I think Strev. found himself a new GF. Not sure the lady was from Wpg. but with a little bit of sleuthing it could probably be located. 🤫
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1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Still under $400,000 if he hits every bonus. Could offer Brown almost the exact same deal and be spending the same as Winnipeg or Toronto are on QB's.
With so few openings I think if any team offered Brown $250k and the chance to compete for the starting job, he'd be interested. Ottawa, Calgary and Hamilton look to be the only 3 places that could potentially offer him that.
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41 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:
I think the downturn in scoring was more to do with the fact that
A-They had a year with no football
B- 6/9 teams were using a new offence, new QB or both
C- The Bomber D kicked the crap out of everyone and single-handedly brought down the scoring average
I feel like the league jumps the gun implementing rule changes a lot of the time.
I recall a few years were most teams were starting backup QB's because their starters were out with injury, and that led to a lot of bad football.
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1 hour ago, Noeller said:
And as we know now, it was Brady that the Argos wanted initially, but when he chose to re sign in Winnipeg, the Argos took the leftover Harris. So they definitely see value in him. Just a matter of whether they feel comfortable going with Ouellette.
Never heard this before, where did you get it from? Find it hard to believe considering this was well before Brady "found his game" and became an effective running back.
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1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
The issue at his position is the likelihood of injury and availability of replacements. The guys at that position turn over in all leagues every 3ish years. Nobody wants to commit a ton of money when most years teams need 2-3 or more guys to get through a season at that spot.
The only place I could see him be the kind of missing piece is BC. But they will have to spend a lot to keep their D somewhat intact.
BC allowed Butler to walk away and sign with Hamilton for $116k in hard money, $133k max. value. Dumb move but I can't see them offering Brady big bucks when a much cheaper Dedrick Mills might be on their radar.
Stanback was the highest paid RB in the league last season, and not a great value at $160k in hard money and $170k max. value. I could see Brady shooting for $185k, just can't see any team other than the Bombers being very interested in him. Maybe the Als if they cut Stanback, they could pair Brady with Antwi.
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52 minutes ago, Noeller said:
JA is NOT the answer..... but there are plenty of Americans who could be, for sure.
Not so many 225 lb. line brawlers available, but lots of smaller scat backs like Chevon Walker and Mizell in BC that can't get the job done anymore. Need that power game.
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1 minute ago, JohnnyAbonny said:
Going all in on Maier was very foolish imo. The guy showed next to nothing
Calgary’s loss will be Ottawa’s gain I guess
According to 3DN Maier made.
Hard money: $405,000
Maximum value: $447,000No reason he shouldn't take a $100k haircut as he didn't produce up to those salary expectations.
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3 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:
He's a #1 rec and a good one at that. I think that's a good contract for both sides.
Longer term deal is a good idea, maybe Walters can convince Schoen to sign if he offers him $650k over 3 years.
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29 minutes ago, Jesse said:
Anyone else find this kind of comment annoying?
He's becoming Brady the obnoxious, he's going to be stunned when he discovers "the sky is not the limit".
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27 minutes ago, Brandon said:
https://www.tsn.ca/edmonton-elks-officially-release-qb-taylor-cornelius-lb-adam-konar-1.2060090
I wonder if Ottawa would be crazy enough to sign Corny leaving Brown less options?
Also Adam Konar will be finding a new home, he can still play.
Bet O'Shea would like to get his hands on Konar if healthy, fits the mold of LB/ST player he covets.
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33 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:
I think it'll be the opposite. This team has been about 2 things since Miller took over. Community involvement (wpg boy who is known for community work) and tough ground and pound bully ball. I don't see that changing next year.
In the end I think Walters will be able to sign Brady for somewhere below $200k, but he'll be pushed over $250k if he hopes to retain Schoen. Not sure which team will do the most pushing with Jones out of the bidding but my guess would be Hamilton, because they do these kind of things and could have a comparatively low QB budget.
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14 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Disagree. Look at the "promising" young qbs that Ottawa has absolutely wrecked in the last few years.. Nick Arbuckle, Caleb Evans, Dustin Crum. They'll eat him up & spit him out as well.
Don't agree that either Crum or Evans have been "wrecked" and thought Crum substantially improved his game as the season went along. I'd welcome either as BB's if the RB's decided to turf them.
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6 hours ago, Mark F said:
my guess is Brown goes to Calgary.
Maier wont win grey cups. Brown might.
and nothing wrong with being a qb for Dave Dickensen.
calgary has good receivers. and a ground game.
probably the best spot right now career wise.
Dave Dickenson saying Stamps will be more active in FA than they have in seasons past, so Dru Brown could be on their radar.
“Everyone’s talking certain (positions), but we’re looking, we have to. Then we have to coach better and we have to find ways to keep improving because if we don’t, that’s not how you get back to playing the type of football that we want to play. We were 6-12 last year, so we need to we need to be a better team from top to bottom.”
Normally smaller movers in the free agent market, Dickenson said that’s not necessarily going to be the case in 2024, as he shifts into his second season as the team’s GM. There’s still just over a month for teams to try to extend the contracts of their pending free agents, which makes for a cloudy picture of what the actual market might look like when it opens on Feb. 13. It’s something he and the Stamps are watching closely.
“I think when you didn’t have your best year, I think you should be a little more active,” Dickenson said. “We’ll see how many of the guys that we’re targeting make it free agency and we’ll see if we can find a deal.”
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1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Hamilton already has a good young qb in Powell. No guarantee that Brown would be the starter in Hamilton. Corey Mace has committed to Trevor Harris. Dave Dickenson isn't ready to give up on Maier just yet. If Brown is stupid enough to sign with the RedBlacks then he'll wreck his career. He'll just become another Nick Arbuckle. He'll become another human punching bag like Michael Penix was last night playing for Ottawa. For Brown's sake, I hope he stays out of that situation. Pickings are slim for Brown right now unless one of the CFL head coaches wants to shake things up.
I don't think Brown will wreck his career if he signs with Ottawa, especially if he only signs a 2 year contract. He's not a raw rookie and shouldn't be discouraged if he ends up with a sub .500 record on a poor or improving team. It's a learning experience and many mature QB's have been through multiple losing seasons and gone on to thrive afterward. It comes down to a QB having confidence in their abilities and eventually finding a team with the right players and coaching staff to play competitive football.
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5 minutes ago, JCon said:
I thought the TiCats had Powell waiting behind BLM? Why would they be interested in Brown?
Agree, it would be smart to trade Brown for Powell if the opportunity was there.
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