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We need to crop this thread for the diaper gang over to Gen Pop..... Jayyyyzuuussss..... 

Even if that's the rule - the puck was behind the net - when his helmet came off.

And it wasn't like it was a bang bang play ie Helle's mask comes off, puck instantly goes to shooter, score.
There was like a 3 second lapse.
CC strikes again.
There should be a video of CC people discussing the challenge for all to see after the fact on weird decisions they make for all to see just for continuous improvement reasons of course.

Thanos needs to rain hellfire on the NHL for that 4th goal.

I have been following a wise Rabbi on youtube and he has this saying, focus on the good ,grow from the bad. I believe that is probably MOS way of looking at things too... being a a guy who always has been a  glass is half empty , this is an incredibly hard way for me to follow, but i still see the wisdom in it. Thank you all for sharing your struggles. As always for the W.....

It wasn't really a complicated passing play though... was pretty straight forward they just messed up the execution of it.

People who aren't smart enough to see the forest for the trees, complain about the obvious thing "Well, we didn't make that last kick, so we need a new kicker..." and they don't look at the plethora of things that went wrong in that game, including the offense having a relative pants-shitting. They also don't look at the massive leap Liegghio took from last year to this year, and think about the similar leap he could take from this year to next. It's not like P/Ks grow on trees...... we have a near-95% CIS kicker who has a MASSIVE ceiling, if we let him grow into it. He's not the reason we lost that game. I'd hate to see him go be an all-star for another team next year....

Wieneke as a replacement for Ellingson would be ok

3DownNation reported in 2019 that the TSN deal was extended for 6 years and $50 Million. So $8.3 million per year, and just over $900,000 per team if they get all the money. But the CFL payment to the Bombers in 2021 was over $4 million, and they say the majority of that was from their share of the TV deal, so who knows the actual number? Suffice to say having a $200 million TV contract in the US would create a significant cash windfall. 

some interesting stuff here about an American TV deal incoming.......
 
 

I have been following a wise Rabbi on youtube and he has this saying, focus on the good ,grow from the bad. I believe that is probably MOS way of looking at things too... being a a guy who always has been a  glass is half empty , this is an incredibly hard way for me to follow, but i still see the wisdom in it. Thank you all for sharing your struggles. As always for the W.....

I have been following a wise Rabbi on youtube and he has this saying, focus on the good ,grow from the bad. I believe that is probably MOS way of looking at things too... being a a guy who always has been a  glass is half empty , this is an incredibly hard way for me to follow, but i still see the wisdom in it. Thank you all for sharing your struggles. As always for the W.....

To give a different spin on this, the Buddhists say that our existences here are for three purposes:
to wonder,
to struggle
and to grow. .
I cannot recall who said it but everyone we meet is fighting a battle we know nothing about. Therefore, we should always be kind to all.  Some time ago, I was on my way home from a long, hard night as an EMT, I pulled up beside a car that has stopped at light just as the sun was beginning to come up. The driver was on my right and as soon as the light changed, he hit the gas and hung a left turn right in front of me. I was tired and a bit slow starting off, which was fortunate, because I had to stand my car on its nose to avoid t-boning him. He had also hit his brakes, coming to a halt about a foot away. I was tired, and cranky, opened my door, got out and was fully prepared to tear him a new one. As I approached him, he rolled his window down and began to babble an apology, but with tears streaming down his face. He was obviously distraught and between sobs told me that he had just come from the hospital where his wife had just died. My anger immediately disappeared, and as I waved him off on his way home, I felt horrible and did for days. 
Be kind. Always.

Much respect to all the people putting their mental health issues out there. I myself struggle with anxiety/depression every day. It’s an important dialogue to leave open, especially among the male population.
Last year when the Bombers beat the Riders in the WF, I was quite sad, and felt numb. I did question to myself why I was letting the outcome of a game I had no control over upset me so much, but as others have echoed here, our teams really do become a part of our identity.
If anyone, and I mean this, ever needs a place to vent about mental health, anything like that, please DM me. I work with a mental health support group specifically for men, and would be happy to help. 

Thanks and no need to apologize. I knew what forum I was posting in.

Last week you were the enemy Bluto....sorry for the rough ride you got when you came here last week. lol. Congrats on your team winning.
I pathologically hate the Riders though....darn...

I get it, Bros.
Take your time with it and by the time we're approaching free agency and drafts and having a few juicy comings & goings stories in the off season, your thirst for the new challenge of 2023 will pull you onward. It's the love that will bring you back. Winning is great, winning Championships is epic but it is the love of your team and of our game that makes me utterly doubtless that the prospect of a new season of the CFL and Bomberball will embolden you all, once more to risk your feelings by investing a not insignificant part of yourself in the fortunes of your team.
You are the Bombers. That's why it can hurt so bad.
I say this as someone who routinely is met with puzzlement, laughter, indifference and sometimes hostility because I am an Argonaut and I could never be anything else.
 
Lots of food for thought in this thread. Thanks everyone. Particularly the part which @wbbfan added about the ways that we identify ourselves and partition aspects of our psyches into 1,2,3 or more parcels really gave me a "pause and consider" moment.
 

That's a fine line to walk - the more you know, the more realize realize how corrupt and terrible the world is and how little power we have to do anything to do about it. I've never been more mentally fragile than I was during covid and 90% of my time was spent reading the news and people commenting about virus this, masking that.
My wife and I talk about staying in our bubble. Be good people, raise our children to be good people. Hope to leave more positive impacts than we do negative. 

To be honest guys, this year stings but it doesn’t even come close to 2001 or 07. 

2019 was very special, in that I got to see a cup win with my Dad. 
My Grandfather was one of the biggest Bomber fans. He and my Dad had a tough relationship at times but they always bonded over the Bombers. Granddad passed away in 1983, I could always tell it broke my Dads heart that they didn’t see 1984 together.
I saw so many parallels during the drought, can’t describe how badly I wanted to see that 2019 victory with the old man. 
Not to mention seeing a guy I’ve known since nursery school (AH) helping end Winnipeg’s drought..So many special aspects of that win. 
2021 was both the hardest and best year of my life.
We had twins in September of that year, and unfortunately we lost one of my baby girls to heart disease at 3 weeks. After all the grief, and sleepless nights of raising a newborn, our family experiencing another cup win at that particular time..So grateful for that distraction. Seeing my Dad holding his granddaughter while watching the final OT play was another all time life moment. 
I try to keep all this in mind after this past one. Saying “I have perspective” is inaccurate. I’m still busted up over the team losing, but unlike 01 and 07 I’m not dwelling on it all winter. 
Again, thank you guys, especially @Zach Schnitzer and @Noeller Just remember when you’re down, you’re NEVER the only one. I’m sure you all have support in your real lives, but my PMs are always open if anyone here is suffering. 
 

I used to take sports way, way too seriously and then about 25 years ago happened on a video essay by Ian Ross discussing the concept of Bread and Circuses.  I cannot find it unfortunately, but here is a good summary of the concept:
 
The idea that people can be pacified by food and entertainment when they should be rallying to their prescribed civic duties isn't a new one. In fact, the concept was first described in ancient times by the satirical Roman poet Juvenal, who penned the Latin term panem et circenses, which means "bread and circuses."
 
"Two things only the people anxiously desire -- bread and circuses," he wrote, lamenting the failure of citizens to take action as the democratic Roman Republic fell and the heavy-handed Roman Empire began.
Within a mere 100 years, Rome underwent massive governmental changes. What in 133 B.C.E. was a free republic that relied on a voting populace and an assembly system morphed into an embittered autocracy by the first century C.E. [source: Beard].
Thus, Juvenal's term, "bread and circuses" went viral, used by scores of people -- then and now -- to describe people who voluntarily trade their democratic freedoms in exchange for stable-yet-controlling government.
Back then, the Roman government kept the Roman people pacified by offering them free food and rousing entertainment in the Roman Colosseum. Now, "bread and circuses" applies to any civic or governmental entity -- or any situation, really -- in which the masses willingly accept short-term solutions to ease their discontent.
So, essentially sports is and has been used to distract us from what's really important in our lives.  That's not to say that we shouldn't allow ourselves to be distracted, but we have to recognize it for the distraction that it is.  As someone who takes the world far too seriously (and also suffers from depression) I struggle with thirsting to know everything I can about why things are the way they are.  I appreciate the excitement of sport, the beauty of music and great stories (whether they be delivered in a book or by a television show or movie) if only to remember what it's like to feel something.  That being said, those feelings are fleeting - perhaps by necessity - because I still try to care about the truly important things we all can get distracted from.
 
 

Thanks for sharing @NoellerI was in the hospital this summer. For the second time in my life. Saved my life and now on the right meds and path. Glad we’re talking about this stuff. 

Don't ever apologize. It is incredibly helpful to "write it all down" and get it out there. 
I have zero issues talking about this stuff and just hope it's helpful to others. 
When my depression and anxiety are at their worst, my sleep goes to **** and everything gets even worse. I was nearly suicidal once a couple of years ago, and thankfully got help. About 5 or 6 weeks ago, I fell into that hole again but thankfully not quite as deep. I knew I needed help, but wasn't AS bad. Still, it required a weeks stay in hospital to keep an eye on me and make sure we got things back on track. 
The reason I bring this up is because this message board (and a group chat on FB with my best friends) kept me going through some dark times. I'm so appreciative of all the people here (yes, even TBurg and TB4E...) and the conversations every day!! 

It’s been hard me and my partner of 7 years broke up in September. Football is something I love deeply, I started a new career the same month that requires a lot of extra circulars outside of work hours; with courses to keep me busy to take my mind off things. I’ve buried myself into my work, and going to the gym in the evenings to try and get over it, nothing quite comforts me more then watching the Bombers play and to an extent the Jets play. As horrible of a feeling it was to lose in so thankful for every game I got to watch, every day I got to take my mind off and talk football with you fine folk, and most importantly I’m thankful for 2019 and 2021, the first two Grey cups of my entire life time. It’s sad that football season is over but as crushed as I am I can see the light and the good from it, as things slow down around here and there’s less courses and work to do I’ll have to confront my realization the love of my life and myself aren’t together but I want to let you guys know it’s been great to have this message board and the Bombers during these tough times. Sorry if this was all over the place I just wanted to speak my truth without going back to it before I lost my train of thoughts.