White Out

I sometimes wonder if there's just a giant troll job happening on me right now. After watching Willy since he came here, and his abysmal first 2 games where he only got anything accomplished in the 4th when the other team had geared down... to read some people's account of his play and his abilities is jaw dropping. I mean, I honestly am wondering if its just a case of blue goggles. Willy, unlike Pavelec, is a likable guy and we all want him to succeed. He's a polite, well spoken man who I think would be an incredible ambassador for out team and city. But I can put that aside and look at his play and see major issues. He simply doesn't have the ability to read a defense that you have to have at this level if you aren't a mobile QB. Willy isn't mobile, and, he can't get the ball out fast. That's a recipe for disaster. It's incredibly convenient and easy to just throw ones hands up in the air and clack away on the keyboard about how bad our O line is, but that's a red herring. Put Willy behind the best offensive line in football and they'll still apply the same tactic: blitz Willy and take away his primary receiver. Done. He's shown a baffling inability to check down his receivers properly for someone who's nearly 30 and been in the league for years. I feel like people who voted him 14th or lower are being dicks, but if you have Willy anywhere outside the 6 to 9 range you're equally trolling or kidding yourself.

If the shoe fits, wear it

Harris was very effective against Montreal, and his 3rd quarter production alone got the Montreal D to back off of Willy. He had a terrific game. In Calgary he barely touched the ball in the first half. I think he had around 7 or 8 carries in the 1st half. That's it. He's average 4.43 yards per carry. Our running game, when used, has actually been pretty fine. Compared to our tire fire of a passing game it looks like the Dallas Cowboys of the 90's. Further, there's a massive difference between run blocking and pass blocking anyways. Even if Harris was getting good run block support it wouldn't help anyones case against Willy. So really what I'm driving at is, 1) Harris has been fine and compared to Willy amazing, and 2) It doesn't mean anything to compare rushing and pass blocking anyways

Lol.

I think you're drastically over stating the issue of our O line. Willy is as much a problem with the O line as the scheme and players themselves. If opposing defenses know that the qb theyre going up against is a bad reader of D and a slow decision maker they`re going to make life very difficult for that qb

What a dumb post with logical fallacies to boot. No one here is saying it's 100% on Willy. This is the kind of mind numbing garbage posting that really brings down the level of the forum.

We should extend Drew Willy to another 3 years at 450k. Got to lock up that talent.

It's a terrible comparison. End of story. Glenn had a proven track record but was perceived as not being able to win the big one (which technically he hasn't). Meanwhile, Willy can't even get to .500. I don't know what your trying to suggest here. Are you saying that Willy will suddenly "find himself" at another team and go from the 13th best Qb in the league to a top performing guy? No, I'm not afraid of that happening at all. Not one bit.

how many CFL qb's come in new and set the world on fire, and, once opponents get game tape on them they come crashing down to earth? it happens every year. the only difference here is that willy had so much hype built into him by our media and organization some people still cant separate the man from the myth. glenn has been consistent his whole career and is a winner. everything willy isnt.

I assume you mean Kevin Glenn. Going to go ahead and point out a few problems with that comparison. 1) Glenn had a very good win to loss ratio with the Bombers 2) Glenn took us to a Grey Cup and barring a fluke broken arm would have delivered it to us 3) Willy hasn't demonstrated in any way shape or form his 3 years he's been here with us that he's a starting QB. You can't pay someone 400k a year to be the leagues 13th best QB.

I knew it was our fault. God damn, we should all be fired.

Where were you hearing this? Can you cite actual players saying this who aren't Blue Bombers? Otherwise, who cares? Someone joins our team and says "I want to play for coach" it's just typical pleasantries. And lets say that some how MOS has built a reputation of being a players coach, what results has that netted us?

all legitimate beefs that will almost surely be called "chest thumping negativity" good post.

If you're responding to me, I mean he was inexperienced when we decided to make him our coach.

If we go 0-6 or 1-5 as I expected, and predicted, then NOT firing MOS is basically giving up on the season in my view. The season isn't really over until labour day, and if you can get things turned around before then you can at least give yourself a chance. Let's revisit this hiring. He was a special teams coordinator for just a handful of seasons. He wasn't a seasoned coach who was the head of a small program or school somewhere. He was a player who became a special teams coordinator, and was handed the responsibility of a football team way too early. This is painfully obvious now. He wants to be buddies with his team, not their coach. If you fire him before this season totally implodes, perhaps you can get some better results with a different voice and a different message. But staying on track with a total loser at the helm is giving up and throwing the white towel in the ring.

I understand but I don't think you're actually making a valid point. No one is posting "waaaa waaa fire MOS". People are, correctly, talking about when he should be fired, and, his failings as a coach. Your assertion that I wouldn't be here if the Bombers were winning is more negative than anything your accusing the MOS detractors of. By a mile. I've been a Bomber fan my whole life, so to quote Goalie, **** you. You keep labeling peoples well placed and usually correct criticism of our management and players as being tantrums, yet you just threw one yourself like a spoiled little child. Dry your eyes and man up. This team sucks right now and people aren't going to come on here and sing praises of a badly inexperienced Michael O'Shea or shell shocked Drew Willy. edit: People have also thoroughly explained why MOS and Willy need to go, you just dont want to listen or read. MOS- inexperienced st coordinator thrust into a position he wasnt ready for. Wants to be everyones friend and cant make the tough calls a coach needs to make. Cant make proper adjustments during the game, highlighted by the poor 2nd half performances last 2 years. Inexcusable loyalty to bad players not pulling them out of the game to try other players when things dont go well Willy- Terrible decision making. Panics in pocket. Happy feet. Unable to read a defense or a blitz. Unwilling or unable to stretch the D with long passes. Poor game clock management. Results are very poor wins to losses. I mean these things are CONSTANTLY talked about on the forum, and you have the balls to come on here and write that garbage that people are just saying "MOS sucks wa wa". Get. Real.

Anyone who quotes Carl is good with me. Nice job and apt post.

I would give this post more credence if this was the NFL. It's a 9 team league with huge roster turn over year to year; you don't need a 5 year plan. If Ottawa can become a very skilled team in 2 years starting from zero, then Walters has run out of excuses.

Bozo is slang for an incompetent person. If that's too saucy for your virgin eyes perhaps you need to take your own advice and push away from the keyboard.

Walters and Owsh both need to walk the plank. Walters has done a terrible job, and MOS is clearly not a HC. Willy needs to be cut too, paying him his salary to go out there and stink is insane. What really drives me up the wall is we could have had Harris and our QB this off season but Walters hitched his stupid wagon to Willy. After this mess continues that should be final straw for that bozo

Iron Mike and Drew both need to **** off.

I couldn't hear your post over the sound of your empty pom poms. Seriously. Legit question. Let people discuss it. I say after week six when we're 1-5

Hey we got a touchdown when the game was out of reach again. Everything is ok! Herp derp

Autistic Iron Mike O'Shea. Legit burst out in to laughter at the train station for that. Perfect.