White Out

Coulda woulda shoulda. Normally I hear these excuses from fans when their team losses. Yet here we are after a win....

wtf does Harris running the ball better have to do with how well a QB can read a defense and throw a ball? Are the pro Willy people here that attached to Drew we're going to dissect this win and critique it and say "well, clearly Drew could have done the same with all things being equal". This is like watching people get into mental gymnastics to defend Pavelec his first 3 years.

300 yards, a touchdown, no picks, and no drive killing mistakes. And he helped generate 30 points. I don't get how that translates to "not playing very well". Bizarre but you're entitled to your opinion. I was only able to catch half the game and from what I watched he wasn't the MVP but he was a huge part of our win tonight.

I think this an attempt at a troll, even though I posted last week that each win probably buys O'Shea a month ( or something like that). So, while I appreciate the attempt to be funny at my expense it's kind of a swing and a miss. Whoever in the head office forced MOS to start Nichols should get a gift basket from the O'Shea family, frankly.

I don't get the poo pooing of his win tonight. I know he has this "backup QB" brand burned into his rear end apparently, but, he gave us a quality start and a win in Edmonton. A place we haven't won since Milt was on the team. Harris was a beast and the D was awesome, but our QB also contributed and made plays. If Nichols isn't a starting QB then Willy's a 3rd stringer by that measure.

That wasn't the question though. If we're just going to say this was the OL, and, Willy would have been just as good behind it, then we're just starting at the result and moving backwards. Nichols clearly had better protection but that also can be a function of him releasing the ball faster, looking off receivers, and pushing the ball further downfield. It's never just one thing. It's a combined effort.

So is the narrative now that the OL finally showed up, just in time for Nichols?

I dont even recognize this offense. What a difference. Imagine that. You cant judge a qb by practice alone... what a concept. Go Nichols, Go Bombers

What are the odds of that in an 8 team (9 very recently) league. Oh... actually pretty good.

How can he not be? His salary is what will do him in.

Funny, 3 years of being an ST coach was the only resume padding that MOS required.

what do you think Bomber management is going to put out there? That MOS has his job on the line in 2 weeks? Jesus.

*sigh * How am I supposed to win this argument? You reply to me and basically take a huge dump all over me, and, if I respond 'I'm crying'. If I don't I'm basically endorsing your views. Grow up. "Cry about it" lol.. seriously, this sounds like something my child might come up with.

I'm sorry you feel that way. The admins have asked me to try and be less combative and bring it down a notch. And I agree its probably in everyones best interests we all try and find a way to discuss things with a more even keel. If you aren't interested in discussing these topics in a respectful manor, that's on you. Edit: Same for your atomic. Rage all you want. I don't care. Legit question and point of discussion. Feel free to scream at your keyboard for all I care.

the 5-1 start was pretty awesome. I remember being really up on Willy after not wanting him, and, some what impressed with MOS. The results were there. Since that 5-1 start it's been a debacle. Just a hot mess. I think I mentioned before too about how winning 07 or 01 or 11 would have made a world of difference for this team and our fan bases morale. 01 was the least excusable. That was our Cup and a sub 500 team got hot at the right time, and, we didn't show up. That one hurts. The loss to BC was painful of course but not entirely unexpected. It's the loss the Riders that stings the most even now, and probably within the hard core fans still rings in our ears a bit. We were the better team for sure and a terrible fluke injury doomed us. Ugh. I can`t even bare to think about that game much more or I`ll get all pissed off. What Mike said was bang on. As Bomber fans were not enjoying this team right now, were coping with it. Its a terrible way to be a sports fan.

If the worst thing you can say about Austin is that if he loses his starting QB he still can field an average team, wow, sign me up

Dont know how I missed that.

I don't feel a tad bit nervous. Why would I? See my above post. Good god, it's an absolute no lose. If Nichols even comes within 2 scores he will out done previous Bombers teams. I feel like the only way Nichols can really do himself harm is if he throws 3 or more picks, zero touchdowns, and the Bombers score no more than a field goal. Otherwise it's fairly par for the course.

Last 5 games at Commonwealth: 3-32... -29 9-41, -29, added to -32 = -61 7-25, -18, added to -61, = -79 10-42, -32... added to -79, = -111 10-24, -14, added to -111 = -125 Last 5 trips to Edmonton are 5 losses with a combined point differential of -125. Meaning we've lost, on average, by 25 points in Edmonton over 5 years. But hey guys, this is just game 5, right? Sorry couldn't help myself. edit: In fact, using the CFl website, I can't even see a recorded win in Edmonton. Prior to 2004 it seems the game results aren't available. Meaning the Calgary Flames have played in the Stanley Cup final more recently than we won in Edmonton. Holy ****.

Our teams "recipe" for being terrible isn't just one ingredient. We have a bad coach, a bad GM, and a bad QB (in this league that's a kiss of death). Look, talent is missing elsewhere but those 3 positions can't all suck. If they do, you're going to need incredible luck elsewhere.

I have 2 areas I'm going to disagree with you on here. First, you think MOS will be here until end of season. That's entirely dependent on the Bombers and MOS. If this losing continues the decision will be made for the BOD and Walters. You can't tell me that if they go winless straight thru the Banjo Bowl they won't fire him. And how unrealistic is that, really? Even 1 win from now until Banjo Bowl. Also, it won't pop up every week. If he wins, he buys himself probably a 3-4 losses for every win. If we lose to Edmonton I promise not to start a thread... by then the voices for his firing will be louder and there's no point in asking peoples opinions. If he does win why would anyone think of a contract? How ridiculous is that? I feel like that last line was thrown in to try and make my poll seem ludicrous, as if the firing was an out of line question based on one week. This is 2 years of losing becoming a third year of losing... cmon.

Why so angry? If your not interested in the poll, don't participate. What a poisonous atmosphere some people want to incubate around hete

I'm sorry you feel that way, and that instead of engaging in a respectful debate you've decided to sling mud instead. There's value in this poll, whether you agree or not. In just 1 week we've gone from 90% to the same question getting only 55% no. If you can't recognize the fundamental shift in how MOS is perceived, this poll has all but erased that. Fans have certainly gone into this year with doubt, but, now we're entering territory where if MOS doesn't get a win, and within the next 2 weeks, he's likely gone. Sorry if you think this thread is some sort of schtick.

I mean, if that is a serious question, ya. What's our winning % and average margin of losing in Edmonton? It's brutal. Yes, a home game vs Hamilton is a much easier game than Edmonton @ Commonwealth. That being said I don't think it's a trap by MOS. He's 1) not smart enough for that 2) trying to save his job. Willy isn't getting it done and even Iron Mike has to stop smiling for a moment and try something new.