bb1 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 With Masoli in Edm but we can't win at home no matter who we put in? And coaching has nothing to do with it huh? Anyone here not willing to trade MOS for Austin? Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Out Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 1 hour ago, bb1 said: With Masoli in Edm but we can't win at home no matter who we put in? And coaching has nothing to do with it huh? Anyone here not willing to trade MOS for Austin? Anyone? Our teams "recipe" for being terrible isn't just one ingredient. We have a bad coach, a bad GM, and a bad QB (in this league that's a kiss of death). Look, talent is missing elsewhere but those 3 positions can't all suck. If they do, you're going to need incredible luck elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 yeah cus they have soo many more wins then we do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcdrought Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, wbbfan said: yeah cus they have soo many more wins then we do They're still missing Zach Collaros. What exactly did you expect? Hamilton was likely the best team in the country last year until Collaros got hurt. As for suggesting Austin isn't that great a coach, which is what you're doing, that just isn't borne out by the facts. The guy has been a CFL Head Coach for 4 years (2007, 2013, 2014 and 2015) and he's taken his team to 3 Grey Cups, winning one of them. If Collaros hadn't got hurt, he probably would have been in the Grey Cup game all four years he has been a CFL HC. The guy is the best coach in the league, and his record proves it. Edited July 25, 2016 by gcdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 It's just too bad that Austin's powers can't keep Collaros healthy. Tracker and Bigblue204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) 53 minutes ago, gcdrought said: They're still missing Zach Collaros. What exactly did you expect? Hamilton was likely the best team in the country last year until Collaros got hurt. As for suggesting Austin isn't that great a coach, which is what you're doing, that's probably the dumbest comment I've read on the website. The guy has been a CFL Head Coach for 4 years (2007, 2013, 2014 and 2015) and he's taken his team to 3 Grey Cups, winning one of them. If Collaros hadn't got hurt, he probably would have been in the Grey Cup game all four years he has been a CFL HC. The guy is the best coach in the league, and his record proves it. Excuse me, but Wally "I don't need no stinkin' headset" Buono stands alone at center field. Edited July 25, 2016 by Throw Long Bannatyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Austin is a good coach but at the same time he's yet to develop a QB on his own. You take Collaros away and they are just an average team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Out Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, Goalie said: Austin is a good coach but at the same time he's yet to develop a QB on his own. You take Collaros away and they are just an average team If the worst thing you can say about Austin is that if he loses his starting QB he still can field an average team, wow, sign me up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Goalie said: Austin is a good coach but at the same time he's yet to develop a QB on his own. You take Collaros away and they are just an average team Austin is simply a great coach. Took an up and coming talent like Collaros and made him better. Clearly made a plummer like Masoli better. What a team can do with better minds on the sidelines than their opponents was on full display in HAM's adjustments and comeback in the second half. Edited July 25, 2016 by Zontar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleLevel Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Zontar said: Austin is simply a great coach. Took an up and coming talent like Collaros and made him better. Clearly made a plummer like Masoli better. What a team can do with better minds on the sidelines than their opponents was on full display in HAM's adjustments and comeback in the second half. I fully agree with the last sentence. The Bombers are one of the few teams in the CFL who don't have a former qb as either their HC or OC. This team has been hamstrung for years because of below average quarterbacking in terms of talent assessment as well as adjusting the game plan to get the most of whoever's playing qb that game. It has to make a difference to your in game adjustments when a person who's calling the shots has some experience with the most important positon on the field. Edited July 25, 2016 by BattleLevel I can't spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcdrought Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, Zontar said: Austin is simply a great coach. Took an up and coming talent like Collaros and made him better. Clearly made a plummer like Masoli better. What a team can do with better minds on the sidelines than their opponents was on full display in HAM's adjustments and comeback in the second half. Agree. He was cruising to his 4th Grey Cup in as many years as a CFL Head Coach (pretty amazing) until Collaros was hurt. He's an excellent Head Coach and as you say he can especially develop QB's or make good ones better. Man there are so many good HC's in the league and we have Mike O'Shea. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 2 hours ago, wbbfan said: yeah cus they have soo many more wins then we do 3 and 2 is much better than 1 and 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb1 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 1 hour ago, gcdrought said: Agree. He was cruising to his 4th Grey Cup in as many years as a CFL Head Coach (pretty amazing) until Collaros was hurt. He's an excellent Head Coach and as you say he can especially develop QB's or make good ones better. Man there are so many good HC's in the league and we have Mike O'Shea. Sigh. Yep we have to stop this hiring of mediocre at best talent that's leads this team. When we start over again we need to spend to get the best we can.Just like Hamilton did with Austin and Calgary with Huffer. Hope you notice I said when not if cause this regime has proven beyond a doubt that they are not capable. I like both GM and coach but the proof is there staring us in the face unfortunately again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Our BOD's have never shown they're capable or willing to go after proven experience when it comes to hiring a Prez. We get what we pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb1 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, iso_55 said: Our BOD's have never shown they're capable or willing to go after proven experience when it comes to hiring a Prez. We get what we pay for. Unfortunately you are right but maybe with the money we made last year we can finally hire a proven winner to lead this team. Hell we are due.....we gotta get lucky sometimes no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Just now, bb1 said: Unfortunately you are right but maybe with the money we made last year we can finally hire a proven winner to lead this team. Hell we are due.....we gotta get lucky sometimes no? No comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Well, I'm sure well get to see what Eric Tillman can do in Winnipeg... either this off-season or the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 1 hour ago, bb1 said: Unfortunately you are right but maybe with the money we made last year we can finally hire a proven winner to lead this team. Hell we are due.....we gotta get lucky sometimes no? Unlike Sask, we can't even identify who we want them to steal! Barker and Milanovich? Wally and Wally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 I don't give a hill of beans about who can or can't develop a QB. The ability to recognize the potential in a QB is good in my books. Just win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Problem is that we can't recruit them, develop them or evaluate them........ Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 12 hours ago, gcdrought said: They're still missing Zach Collaros. What exactly did you expect? Hamilton was likely the best team in the country last year until Collaros got hurt. As for suggesting Austin isn't that great a coach, which is what you're doing, that just isn't borne out by the facts. The guy has been a CFL Head Coach for 4 years (2007, 2013, 2014 and 2015) and he's taken his team to 3 Grey Cups, winning one of them. If Collaros hadn't got hurt, he probably would have been in the Grey Cup game all four years he has been a CFL HC. The guy is the best coach in the league, and his record proves it. hahahaha... I love this... "I'm gonna tell you what you're arguing... then make a counter point to 'prove' you wrong" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 If Kent Austin is ever available, we need to take him. Although I'm a little worried about his heart, but otherwise I'll take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcdrought Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 56 minutes ago, bearpants said: hahahaha... I love this... "I'm gonna tell you what you're arguing... then make a counter point to 'prove' you wrong" Nice try bear, but it falls short. The topic is about 'Kent Austin winning with a second-stringer'. And a comment is made 'yea cuz they (Hamilton) have soo many more wins than we do'. The comment can't be interpreted any other way than 'so what, they have the same number of wins as we do'. So no, I'm not telling anyone "what they're arguing". I'm responding to a comment than minimizes Austin's efforts - which is fine. I just think some context should be given to the Hamilton record, i.e. one of the best QB's in the CFL remains on the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 I completely disagree with his comment... but his point was, they're not doing much better than us (which is horribly incorrect)... not Kent Austin is a bad coach... which is what you immediately jumped to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb1 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 15 hours ago, wbbfan said: yeah cus they have soo many more wins then we do Strange comment since Hammy is 3-2 and we are 1 -4 and Hammy just won their last game with a massive comeback in Edm but hey your happy being 1-4 I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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