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25 minutes ago, Brandon said:
Powerful as in ridiculous and dumb?
Actually brilliant - because she knows the cops can’t do anything because arresting a vulnerable naked woman means they all lose their jobs...
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25 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
There would still be 8 new cases in MB.
As opposed to 18 yes I thought that was fairly clear
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3 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
I am not making excuses for anyone who didn’t follow the rules - 2 to 3 people was a reference to how it happened in MB. Most colonies in MB were in complete lockdown, from a March 23 to June 21, in our case. However, some colonies / individual members were embarrassingly stupid. Unfortunately, they infected others; 2 of the 3 infected communities actually followed all the guidelines. It only takes a few idiots.
I guess I just don’t like the term covidiots - I was just in Manitoba and people are generally following the rules even if the rules are different everywhere
i just find it interesting to see the judgement and panic about beaches and bars and cabins while the vast majority of the outbreak in the prairies is related to Hutterite colonies
covid spreads through length of exposure and proximity... we’ve know this for months and just somehow ignore it
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1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
They pay the bills & that is it. They have no interest in investing in a new stadium for the Stamps. About a year ago there were rumours that a group of investors wanted to bring in a MLS team to Calgary for 2026. It would have involved building a new stadium of about 30,000 seats. Perhaps CSEC would partner with them to get a new football/soccer stadium built. Since then crickets with Covid. Wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing is now dead.
Hmm interesting - I wonder how a CFL wide community ownership scenario would look? If I’m the Liberals that’s how I’d structure it - bailout the community owned teams and wage subsidies for the private teams
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52 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
One cheque $1200 in April. Yep, Americans are just livin' in the tall grass off that money. Republicans are all brain dead.
I thought it was each month - with the exchange rate that’s almost half a rookie CFL salary...
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48 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
Because it isn’t true. It was 2 - 3 people who didn’t follow the rules, not an entire group. Most Hutterite communities in MB have followed all the public health guidelines. Also, no one identified any visible minorities on Corydon.
Visible minority? uh wha wha?
my point is that all ‘the covidiots’ on corydon or on beaches have not caused an outbreak and maybe it is only a few people - same as the Manitoba colony
you are included in those with a blanket condemnation of people ‘seemingly flaunting’ the rules... yet there are excuses when the colonies are responsible for the spike
along those lines, maple creek was not just 2-3 people so cmon... it was their entire leadership - do anything you want but don’t go to Tim hortons and Walmart...
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55 minutes ago, Noeller said:
There's no question, based on how people are acting now, COVID will continue to rage well into 2021. I'm not one that believes "livelihoods are as important as lives", but I think there's enough Con governments out there who will bend over backwards to make sure the economy doesn't completely grind to a halt.
How is it 'raging' in Canada though? I've been in Manitoba, BC and Yukon and yes restrictions are fairly 'loosely' interpreted but there's no outbreaks... other than Hutterite colonies, meat packing plants, etc...
We somehow now consider a handul of isolated cases as a 'disaster' about to overwhelm our health care system... it just so bizarre.
Even in Quebec and Ontario, most cases are under 40 which is super low risk... and its still very very low numbers in relation to the general populace.
My question is 'how many lives vs livelihoods' is in your equation... 1:1000? 1:100,000?
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26 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:
I'm as informed as the next guy, especially if the next guy is Floyd. 😁 It's not that I don't know what happened, it's that I don't put a modern filter on what happened. It's not that I don't think some of the things that happened turned out horribly, because they did. I've repeatedly stated that the Indian Act is racist and that we should be treating everyone with the same level of respect no matter what their race, religion, sex, sexual preference, or any other way folks want to pidgin-hole other people who aren't exactly the same as they are.
You're blaming all white people for the wrongs perpetrated by some white people in times when they weren't thought of as being wrong. In other words, you're basing your opinion mostly, if not purely, on race. Blame the 1%. They built the railroads, owned most of the land and all the slaves (until 1833 in Canada). Blame the Catholic church for the horrible things they put Native children through in an effort to convert them and assimilate them. Blame the government of the time who made the laws, but understand that they couldn't have made the laws if they didn't have enough votes, which shows you where the majority of folks stood on the subject at the time.
There's already been a bunch of change and there needs to be a bunch more. A lot, but not all, race problems are really poor vs rich problems. Covid for example, doesn't know the race of anyone it infects, but more black and Hispanic people are getting it and dying from it in the US. That's because a lot of them live in poor neighborhoods, in crowded situations without access to the same level of healthcare that the middle and rich classes have.
Michael Jordan's kids have a hugely better chance at success than any white person in the poor parts of any town. BLM folks justify burning things down by saying they don't have those things, they'll never have those things, and therefore they shouldn't respect those things (I'm paraphrasing from a John Oliver clip). Guess what? I'm an old white guy from a middle class neighborhood, who got an education and a good job and I'll never have those things either, because they're owned by the top 10% of wage earners.
It's not just white folks. Natives, blacks or any other race for that matter enjoy the privileges this country has created too. For example: My Uncle was a west coast native who was taken away from his family at an early age and put in a school. He never talked about those times. He grew up to be a lawyer specializing in Aboriginal affairs then a judge. He didn't allow his race or his history to define him. One of the smartest and most successful people I've ever met. He lived the full Canadian dream, likely becoming a 10%'r, certainly being held in very high esteem by all who knew him and a nice guy too.
Are we all equal? Nope, not now not ever. Is it harder to make it if you're poor or a visible minority? Absolutely. Are we failing to help the poor and the minority's. Yup. Will banning words help any of this? Nope.
Always fun to take a shot at me... don't ever think you are more informed or intelligent than me. Devil's advocate is the path of the average man and you have conquered that path.
It must just be your grammar....
Michael Jordan's kids have a hugely better chance at success than any white person in the poor parts of any town. BLM folks justify burning things down by saying they don't have those things, they'll never have those things, and therefore they shouldn't respect those things (I'm paraphrasing from a John Oliver clip). Guess what? I'm an old white guy from a middle class neighborhood, who got an education and a good job and I'll never have those things either, because they're owned by the top 10% of wage earners.
Because, man, that is some clueless racist diatribe... your last sentence DEFINED systemic racism - both against minorities and against the poor
Imagine that all I do for social justice is get upset about the name Eskimos if it helps you sleep at night... but clearly I don't have to do much for it to be more than what you're doing - other than just not patting myself on the back for being a white non-racist hard workin guy.
I thought you'd stop digging your hole but instead you're now trying to kiss ass to other posters by throwing 'Floyd' under the bus... again - a sad and weak move I didn't expect from the old TBurg...
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13 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
The question no one wants to address. What if the pandemic is still going strong in 2021 & there's no vaccine? Pro sports along with vast sectors of our economy will be devastated.
We will end up just treating covid like another flu - whether it is or not... said this from the start. Sports venues will just reduce capacity and jack ticket prices even more... maybe even make playoffs pay per view or something lke that...
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2 hours ago, Mark H. said:
There is no direct link between that large funeral and the cases in Manitoba.
So why are we calling corydon bar goers covidiots but not using that term of derision with the Hutterite colony outbreak? It’s clear that the colonies did not follow the rules and set us back...
to be clear, I despise the term covidiots but I’m just wondering about this religious exemption...
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1 hour ago, DR. CFL said:
Well with no CBA agreed upon, no federal funding and who knows where things might be at with health, safety and testing requirements I’m not sure the Hub location is very contentious. No doubt Winnipeg is a logical choice.
We got your point that the CFL is shitty and doomed the first fifteen times you posted it...
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11 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Okay, so what did Fred Childress, a LT ever do to piss you off?
He allowed Marcus Crandall to have five steamboats for the entire 2001 grey cup...
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Still say the delay is CFL trying to push for an ‘eastern hub’ that is not Winnipeg...
Winnipeg and sask were obvious choices from day one
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28 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:
For anyone else who is interested - above are the public audited financial statements (2018) for Edmonton's team, keep in mind they hosted the Grey Cup that year, so there's a boatload more revenue in 2018 because of that.
EVEN THEN though - their financials indicate cash on-hand hovers above $8 million, and that's not even including their investments. They show positive operating cash flows, and not only that, they have a rainy day fund of $12M ("stabilization fund") that could be drawn upon for dire situations .... like a pandemic. Of course, 2019 was a decent year on the field for Edmonton, they made the Eastern Final despite a losing record... there were certainly other teams (Toronto, Ottawa) that did a lot worse.
Assuming the $1M estimate to rebrand is correct, the question isn't if they have the cash to rebrand, it is if they want to.
When you look at the successful teams across the league, they are almost all community-owned... with the exception of Calgary which kind of 'won the lottery' with CSE
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1 hour ago, TBURGESS said:
Basic logic didn't defeat my argument. The current politically correct climate made logic irrelevant. Eskimos doesn't bother me or most of the affected folks who the Esks polled, but that point is lost on you.
I am a non-racist white guy. I couldn't care less what anyone's ancestry is. I don't treat other races as children who need to be protected. I assume they are adults. I don't take responsibility for things that my race did in the past and I don't expect anyone of any other race to take responsibility for anything that their race did in the past. I try to see things as the were seen at the time they were done. I don't put a modern filter on them and call them bad. Eskimos, when the team was named, wasn't seen as derogatory or racist. That's the modern spin.
I never said it was it was only the cost of rebranding. I had no idea what the cost was until a few days back, but the cost of rebranding is a big thing especially in today's CFL economy. You're completely downplaying the costs and expecting the Esks to pay the entire cost themselves.
I see you as one of the group who is chanting in the streets:
What do we want? CHANGE!
When do we want it? NOW!
Who should pay for it? SOMEONE ELSE!
Sweet. Just two weeks ago I was a trump redneck who only cared about the economy... now I’m a social justice deadbeat...
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1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:
Eskimos, when the team was named, wasn't seen as derogatory or racist. That's the modern spin.
I mean...if we've learned anything, it's that in the early to mid 1900's there was very little racism. I'm sure when the stamps called Edmonton that it was very respectful lol.
It was easier back then the real life Eskimos had numbers too just like the football team - racism didn’t even exist... until the hippies invented it
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The only conspiracy is that we think we’ll get an effective vaccine...
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1 hour ago, TBURGESS said:
Massive change or 'slight adjustment' both mean significant outlay of capital, which is really stupid when we don't even know if we get a CFL season this year and we don't know if no season will kill the CFL outright.
I'd be very surprised if New Era or any other company for that matter would do anything 'pro bono'.
Again, you want change without having to pay a dime yourself. Typical keyboard social justice warrior.
Man, you've really slipped over the years...
So, basic logic and market forces defeated your 'Eskimos doesn't bother me and I'm a regular non-racist white guy' argument... so now you're wallowing in the dirt and calling me a 'typical social justice warrior who does nothing'... classy.
Just remember that I didn't give a flying effin eff about the name until I read how misguided your stance was - now you've twisted your argument that it was always only the 'cost of rebranding' that is the issue because it will kill the CFL...
You're a shadow of the old TBurg, I must say...
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I mean Addison and Acklin must be pumped that Banks just pulled the plug on his season... his departure adds 2-3 targets a game for each of them
Open slot behind Williams as KR/PR
Players would be crazy not to jump at a shortened season - what a small sacrifice to potentially end up with a $150-200k UFA payout in 2021
The only road block I see is this ridiculous season long quarantine - just get everyone to sign a waiver that they won't go to a hutterite colony...
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20 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Not always. You wouldn't put your body on the line or be away from your young family for such little money. Most of these guys have jobs in the US. They can't afford to sit around doing nothing for 6 months of the year.
You're either making your own breaks or you're settling for an average/below average life... I know which choice I'd make - always.
I don't think $3000 USD a month is a 'pay cut' for most 'almost pro' football players... a chance to make a living playing football is ALWAYS better than sitting at home
Maybe some have good jobs - but judging by the jobless stats for USA - there's a TON of talented players that don't.
CFLPA as always knows it doesn't have a leg to stand on and as always the CFL knows this too. This is just CFLPA making noise before they sign.
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3 hours ago, TBURGESS said:
Easy to swap out, sure. Costs money to do so, sure. Sell off the old merch at a loss, costs money. Change all the marketing, costs money. Jersey refresh, costs money. All that plus more = A mill? Maybe. This isn't business as usual. It's a change that no one wants to pay for, especially during these pandemic times.
You're kinda missing the point on purpose. It's not, 'this can't cost what they say it will', it's 'I'm not willing to pay a dime for a change that I want to see'. Put your money where your mouth is.
You do realize that 'old merch' is 'sold at a loss' every... single... year.
How much money is tied up every year in unuseable marketing related to vets who get cut, injured or traded... such as Matt Nichols
Terry Jones says there's all these fans that will not renew their season tix because of the name change... but they won't buy all the Esks merch out of nostalgia... got it. Sure.
We JUST rebranded the league in 2019 with New Era... this included new logos. And the MontreALS instead of Alouettes basically... you don't remember Edmonton basically changing their brand to 'Esks' not that long ago???
You always manage to find the negative spin on anything... and once again, you are missing the point on purpose.
This is not a massive change like the RedSkins - this one is a slight adjustment. And in fact, its a huge marketing opportunity rather than a sadsack ledger entry...
I'd be surprised if New Era or someone doesn't rebrand it 'pro bono' just to reap the marketing/goodwill.
Its just too bad Esks had to wait until the Redskins did it - if anything, that cost them money.
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12 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:
I doubt any team can afford to pay an extra million bucks this year. It's not the same as just changing jerseys, they have to change their entire branding, except maybe the double E.
If it's best for the league then I guess all the teams should kick in for the name change.
It's funny that folks who demand the change don't want to pay for it. They expect the team to pay the entire amount. Pretty easy to demand change when it doesn't cost YOU anything.
If you are referring to the Terry Jones article in The Sun... that's pretty ridiculous.
Try to find ONE image that actually relates to the term 'Eskimo' in Edmonton merch and marketing... there is NOTHING. It's all EE or just the word Eskimos - which is pretty easy to swap out
Jones claims that season ticket holders will leave because they are loyal to the name... this is laughable.
Like I said, we rebrand team jerseys and logos on a regular basis in the CFL - this is just another rebranding.
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Considering we rebrand the jerseys and merch every 2-3 years anyway... I doubt changing the name will bankrupt the team
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They are connected to a funeral and a wake... again length of exposure and proximity
Stop trying to deflect- no one is 'attacking Hutterite colonies' but to deny that they are highest contributor to the western outbreak is ridiculous.
How on earth can you claim that 10 of 18 cases over the whole province is not a vast majority? 20 of Manitoba 29 cases are linked to Hutterite-related travel to Alberta.
https://winnipegsun.com/news/news-news/manitoba-announces-18-new-cases-outbreak-on-hutterite-colonies-linked-to-alberta-gathering
And don't turn this into some bogus witch hunt against Hutterites... its a viable question especially on a forum that sits and judges 'covidiots' everyday... unless you're the right covidiot...
We have rules and obviously are making exceptions for religious gatherings - that is the biggest danger right now.
Covid is not casually spreading - it spreads at events or locations where again its close exposure over a longer amount of time (full day or two days).