Floyd
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11 hours ago, Mark H. said:
True. Mostly from those who know very little about us - nor do they really care to find out.
Everyone likes hutterites just before Thanksgiving ha...
Ugh... I see some of my cousins on facebook posting 'don't blame the hutterites'... I guess it is becoming an issue in Manitoba now. Sorry to hear that.
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24 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
You seriously believe Hutterites are not being criticized over this? I mean, maybe not so much from the media, but we are hearing it with intensity from the general population. One example: We got a call from Shopper's Drugmart just today. Several of our members had prescriptions to pick up, and they wanted just one person to come pick them up. Which is hilarious, because that's what usually happens anyway. In another colony, someone's dentist appointment was cancelled, just because they're a Hutterite - no positive cases in their community. There's been other harsher stuff that I'd rather not mention.
Hey I’m sorry but that’s just the way it is now... we’ve had no cases for three months and everyone calls the health inspector if you organize any event in the Yukon... people freak out about US license plates, etc
thats actually my point about covidiots and generalizations
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3 hours ago, TBURGESS said:
I don't think that kissing ass means what you think it does.
Doing better isn't an argument for changing the name. Changing the name isn't doing better or getting rid of negative connotations. 🙄 It certainly is a tiny effort though.
Congrats to you and your kind for getting your way. Changing the name will most certainly result in the end of racism.
Me and my kind abide.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-covid-update-tuesday-july-21-1.5657582
good example... I read a bunch of Facebook comments about wear masks dummies and a bunch of criticisms of the general populace but four cases outside colonies is well within the planned reopening numbers
we are turning into a society of ‘deniers’ or ‘I told you soers’ it’s sad to watch...
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27 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
I’m not hard done by, not at all. 20 of 29 cases in MB are Hutterite, as we speak. I’m just not sure how you arrived at the conclusion that we get a ‘free pass’ from MBB. I was critical of my own people right from the start, and you will see that if you look back. You have cited examples of foolish actions, and I agree with that. The good news is, those cases are confined to 3 colonies and they are in complete lockdown.
But that’s MB in the past week, that’s not all across the prairies. SK has a significant order of new cases in the north, spread from an oilfield outbreak to indigenous commuters. That’s the the part I had a problem with.
If Grand Beach July long had resulted in 20 of 29 cases - this board would be going ballistic... that is exactly my point
swift current is not contained yet and the colony south of Calgary has very mixed messages coming out of there
colonies remain an issue as do oil rigs, nursing homes, meat packing plants - now that I really think of it that is what bothers me... MBB and the media are targeting the general populace as teetering out of control and being covidiots... it’s actually these clusters that make the data seem worse
So tracking the oil field guy and tracking the Manitoba colony outbreak should be good news stories - ie that the system is working - instead every second post is ‘omfg Covid is coming for the second wave... I told you so’
Noeller’s post is a good example - the scientist extrapolatesour cases to become exponential until disaster yet in the same thread I’m reading that hey the spike in the colonies is under control and no worries... but that spike is what made the data look ‘exponential’
Anyway blah blah
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1 minute ago, wpgallday1960 said:
Edmonton Existential ... and I can’t think of anything else.
That’s solid... especially after the name controversy ha
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8 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
If I’d wanted to exclude MB stats, I would have edited them out of the post I quoted.
The stats you are quoting are overall stats - we were talking about the new spike... anyway I was making a point about generalizations and now you’re acting hard done by... thankfully i didn’t latch on to the ‘visible minority’ comment
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17 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
These are the numbers I was referring to - they were already in the thread.
There is nothing else that needs to be said - it's all clear enough.
To clarify once again: 340 of 962 Saskatchewan cases are in the far north. Calgary as seen an increase of over 150 cases since late last week.
How that can pinned on one group of people as being the major cause of it, is beyond me . And this is exactly what you did - you said to not do so would be ridiculous.
Look, man, if it helps you sleep its cool but the fact that you totally left out Manitoba stats kind of makes my point.
Citing the 962 covid cases literally has nothing to do with the current outbreak after lockdown restrictions eased and you know that.
I mean sure there are now covid cases linked to a gathering in Alberta and all those same people stopped at places all along the drive to and from - and some colonies refused to social distance or cooperate with medical experts... but yes, there are other places that have covid besides colonies
They are not the only factor but without Hutterite colonies, our weekly numbers are super low - anyway, my point was about covidiots and the use of that term... enjoy your day.
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53 minutes ago, Noeller said:
and, in the end, Wade Miller gets his way:
https://winnipeg.citynews.ca/2020/07/21/winnipeg-to-become-hub-city-for-cfl/
There will be fans in the stands by September... 5000 or 10,000
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6 minutes ago, Brandon said:
Depends what kind of onion.... you can only wear a white onion because if you choose to wear a red onion then you racist!!!
But there was a time when wearing a red onion on your belt was perfectly acceptable... and who am I - an onion lover - to judge those or be judged on behalf of those who teary-eyed settlers who came before me.
Now if it was a shallot - well there's no excuse for that.
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Yeah so... this is kind of depressing...
US border is not opening any time soon.
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8 minutes ago, Brandon said:
As per the old google definition search.... vast majority is considered 90% or higher. So using that term with the hutterites would be incorrect. I'd stick with only saying "the majority" of cases are because of the hutterite colonies.
Back in my day, 80% was a vast majority... I understand that times change but to me 80% will always be a vast majority - it was in the 1950s and it didn't hurt no one back then dadgummit. Next you'll tell me wearing an onion on my belt offends some social activist slacker.
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Ahh the computer model approach... got it
I would have a high degree of caution comparing Canada to Florida and Arizona... but I will keep this in mind and look again at end of August if we’re at the predicted 300-400 cases per day mark - I doubt it personally
to say we are in an exponential increase ignored the fact that society was essentially closed in June and now it is not - to expect the infection rate to remain low or zero is just not realistic
we are well under R1 right now and most infections outside of clusters are in the 20-30s - no reason to panic
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6 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:
Slavery was socially acceptable, legal and OK at the time. That's not the same as saying slavery is OK. Taking the word 'slavery' out of the lexicon wouldn't have changed anything. They had to take slavery out of the system (Note that I don't say WE, because we had nothing at all to do with it). Looking back, it's OK to say slave owners were people of their time, but it's not OK to suggest that they were wrong for following the social norms of their time. Certainly, looking back through a modern filter, they were wrong. Quite frankly rich people who didn't own slaves when it was legal were ahead of their time.
For example: Washington, a founding father and their first president, owned slaves like most other rich men of his time. Does owning slaves at that time mean we should we ignore everything else that he did? Should we see him as a terrible person because he followed the social norms and legal rules of his time? Should his statues be removed? Social justice folks would say yes. I'd say he was a man of his time and the fact that he owned slaves should be added to every statue so people could make up their own minds. That's what I mean by trying not to put a modern filter on what happened. I don't mean ignore the past. I mean don't look at the past with today's morals include all the information about the past warts and all.
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4 hours ago, TBURGESS said:
You're the one who took it to the personal level instead of debating the issues. I'm happy to go there too because it seems like it's all you've got. No, I'm not throwing you under the bus and no I'm not kissing ass and no, making a joke at your expense isn't sad or weak.
My diatribe doesn't define systemic racism. Poor isn't a race.
I don't imagine anything about you or even think of you until I reply then I move on again until the next time.
Making a weak joke that you are 'more informed than Floyd' is actually the definition of kissing ass... but whatevs.
Name is changing, luckily we don't have to debate this anymore.
3 hours ago, TBURGESS said:I'm not saying that, and I don't think it's implied either. It simply was what it was and it was OK when it happened. We shouldn't pretend it didn't happen or try to 'fix' it now. We should learn from it and do better now and in the future.
However... this is EXACTLY the argument for changing the name... ha
Making a tiny effort to change a name that has negative connotations is 'doing better now and in the future'...
You truly are baffling.
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1 hour ago, 17to85 said:
it's not a boogeyman, it's a thing that can happen if people aren't careful.
You know what your problem is? For all you read about this subject you constantly demonstrate a real lack of actual understanding.
And you do realize that this is your response to everyone who doesn't agree with your specific opinion at a given moment... but its part of your charm.
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What's with all these hub city bids... how is this not decided already??
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39 minutes ago, Noeller said:
yikes yikes yikes....these are some seriously dangerous case numbers all across Western Canada.
How so? The numbers are ridiculously low in relation to population and most covid spikes are clusters that can be handled...
What would a fair number be for cases in Alberta in relation to the population?
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24 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:
Viruses mutate all the time.. the concern with COVID is its' highly contagious infection rate, the virus isn't very deadly right now, but if it mutates into something more sinister, with its high infection rates, it would be devastating.
The virus already mutated it seems - in BC, they were hit with a 'washington strain (likely derived from China)' and the 'Italy/EU strain'... the China and Iran strains had minimal impact
This is why I don't believe we will ever have a proper vaccine - I think we are behind the game no matter how fast we move...
As for the spanish flu, yes I completely understand the severity but its also a very very different virus in very very different times... so the second wave is almost irrelevant to covid in Canada... we lose sight that covid killed 1600 people outside of nursing homes - to the general populace, covid is a minimal threat - its still a serious virus but this is not the spanish flu.
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29 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
Once again, stating facts becomes deflection in your eyes. Saskatchewan has the most cases in the far north, while Calgary is the hotbed in Alberta. To continue saying that Hutterites are the highest contributor is ridiculous, because it’s not what the numbers show. For the record, nothing you say will stop me from stating facts. If you keep stating false opinions, I will keep on combatting you.
Speaking of deflection... the conversation is about recent outbreaks not cases in total.
In the post you quoted... I just agreed that there is a covid cluster in Sask's far north due to a funeral and then I cited an article that states 20 of 29 cases in Manitoba are related to Hutterite colonies... is this not the 'vast majority'?
Now you are claiming that the latest 'flare up' in Alberta is primarily in Calgary and that there are not a significant number of cases related to Hutterite colonies? A source would be good since you are now accusing me of spreading false opinions.
You are portraying my claims as though I am saying 'hutterite colonies' are the 'only' covid hotspots... I am just saying they are the only covid hotspots where we don't use the term covidiot... i.e. the Calgary restaurant goers for example.
I like facts to be honest, always willing to admit I'm wrong... willing to read your sources.
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2 hours ago, Eternal optimist said:
Bo-gey-man: noun: An imaginary evil spirit or being, used to frighten children
If you buy into the whole "COVID is a scam/conspiracy" logic, it unfortunately fits right in to that narrative.
It is very hard to have a critically minded discussion when any questions regarding covid are so easily filed into a 'Trump redneck conspiracy' narrative... its a sad state of affairs these days.
Aside from the Spanish Flu - for which we only have random anecdotal evidence about a mystery illness - there is no real scientific evidence that a massive second wave is coming. The 'second wave' will be clusters over the next couple years and the entire point of flattening the curve was not to eradicate covid but to prepare our health care system.
Yet we speak like the second wave spanish flu is coming to kill millions... when in fact the 'first wave' of covid only killed 1600 people outside of nursing homes. Yet pointing out this basic fact leaves me open to being a conspiracy guy for saying its a nursing home issue (contained location with long term exposure).
We pick and choose what info we want to hear - both sides are doing that - sometimes we say that you have to follow the science and other times we use the spanish flu bogeyman...
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2 hours ago, Jpan85 said:
Whats happening in Florida is it still first wave or second wave?
Florida and Texas just didn't bother to report while almost all other states were showing spikes, they were dribbling along with 'no cases'... so there's no way to know now, I would think its still the first wave - I suspect they will just stop reporting again anyway.
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3 hours ago, Mark H. said:
Well, I’ll tell you what I find interesting: I have come on here and stated things exactly as they are, making an effort to not hide anything. But you somehow see that as making excuses - I didn’t make any. I answered every question that was asked and provided the facts. I have no Hutterite contacts in Alberta or Saskatchewan, thus I could not comment accurately on what exactly happened there, so I chose not to.
No one ever actually claimed you were 'hiding anything' or making excuses... so I'm not sure what your point is? I'm not attacking your colony specifically, I am pointing out the double standard on this board - the comments are mild and supportive when it comes to the colony issues... for everyone else who gets covid - 'they are an idiot and stupid'...
Its interesting.
2019-20 CFL Offseason
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Sure changed his tune.
Exactly the same panic and hand-wringing as last year (in which I participated...) - a deal will get done, there was never any doubt.