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5 hours ago, Mr Dee said:
So, no sources then...
I posted the nytimes article already - that’s how this conversation began - we can easily find current articles discussing Sweden’s approach on cnn, bbc and there’s even a monk debate about it - but again I don’t expect you to read anything with substance
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18 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:
I’d like to see your sources..
Sweden is a completely different society than ours. They voluntarily had a few lockdowns because the people there seem to be more aware of why they should. They’d did have restrictions as to size of group meetings and they did have a higher mortality rate than their neighbours.
Were they right in their path? Who’s to say? The economic impact is still debatable but that’s the same in many countries.
Quote: “Despite the more relaxed approach, only 7.3% of people in Stockholm had developed the antibodies needed to fight the disease by late April -- well below the 70-90% needed for herd immunity.” - New Scientist
Sweden is not the shining example many want it to be, but I herd they have good meatballs. 🙂
Canada - total deaths...9316 total cases - 160,265 = 0.0581
Sweden - total deaths...5893 total cases - 93,615 = 0.0629
Excellent demonstration of my point about dogmatic thinking and using outdated information
I am talking about the second wave and moving forward - as in the death rate during the lockdown months versus Sweden’s approach
and you do know that we consider T cells as a measure of immunity more than antibodies
anyway would love to chat - but I know your schtick so why bother
my original reference was to Italy being used as a success story while Sweden is still villainized yet has a lower per capita mortality and case rate - you just demonstrated my point
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1 hour ago, Mr Dee said:
What’s the fascination with Sweden anyways?
They took a long term approach that looked at the overall health of their society... it’s not some ridiculous economy over lives as is portrayed
They actually made the same mistakes as us in terms of long term care homes - and accidentally elevated their death rate - but regardless it is very interesting to watch their curve remaining flat and their death rate at or near zero - herd immunity has become a dirty word but Sweden may have achieved it
will find out this October for sure
1 hour ago, Noeller said:Sweden's decision is and was deplorable. To say that the economy is more important than ANY lives, no matter how old they might be, is inexcusable.
But skyrocketing overdose rates are fine - because those are different lives... got it
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33 minutes ago, JCon said:
If only we could be like Sweden and experience more than double the number of deaths per capita.
Who in your family would you sacrifice? Someone elderly? A dis-owned uncle?
I suggest you review the current information available. You are repeating dogma from this April when everyone denounced Sweden's long-term approach.
For the last three months, Sweden is averaging comparable or possibly lower per capita covid deaths than Canada
Maybe something will change but at present there is absolutely no second wave in Sweden - but feel free to keep villainizing them instead of learning something
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1 hour ago, blue_gold_84 said:
Kind of a strange conclusion given that Italy and Sweden have essentially the same per capita case rates now.... but completely different approaches.
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Heard her on CBC tonight... makes some very sensible points and people are finally listening
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Seems to be no threats of lockdown over there... and no second wave... and no masks
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Seeing lots of comments this morning about how both candidates acted like children... that seems like a win for Trump. All he needs to do is sow chaos.
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I don't see how you pick anyone other than Sanderson or Schneider... I'd even reach for Guhle before Lundell or Lapierre
Jets have drafted how many C now? Maurice will just not play a rookie at 2C... so drafting yet another C when Roslovic and Copp are in our system and 'developed' and still we trade for Eakin... I don't see the benefit.
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I'll be shocked if he doesn't win in a landslide...
Either way, there are so many potential charges and/or embarassments waiting that he will never leave office.
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I think the only Laine trades I'd look at is
Laine for Jack Hughes straight up
Laine for Trochek and Pesce (I think Carolina only makes this deal because of Pesce's shoulder)
Otherwise I dont see any trades that both teams would make... and I wouldnt trade Laine within the conference
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2 hours ago, iHeart said:
Less than 1% of tests result in a positive result and 1% of those are fatal...
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3 hours ago, Goalie said:
90 percent of them played in the league. Yes. It is an old boys club.. More specifically a white boys club.
Excuse me? 90 percent of those coaches played in the league. They are also all white. Facts? 12 of 31 soon to be 32 but Seattle will recycle a coach isn't 50 percent.
Hiring people with experience coaching at various levels or experience as a hockey player is not ‘recycling’
Hiring Paul Maurice was recycling
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I still don’t understand how the CFL isn’t even trying to stay on the radar - fly guys in for a skills day or event or something... cdns can fly to the states - maybe do it there... just something - maybe for Grey Cup week
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On 2020-09-15 at 12:39 PM, Goalie said:
NHL really is an old boys club. Same coaches get recycled over and over.
Obviously you mean ‘besides’ Berube, Brindamour, Cooper, Cassidy, Bednar, Green, Keene, Ward, Colliton, Boughner, Hynes, Blashill, etc
But aside from half the coaches in the league, yes it’s an old boys club hahah
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18 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
Not to mention, we have an MB. government that is more than happy to find a scapegoat.
Love how you have changed the narrative to make Hutterite colonies out like innocent victims - been watching the pivot for a while
there were clusters on Hutterite colonies - this is just a simple fact - like all the rest of us - you are affected by Manitoba and Canada creating extreme and generalized rules to protect the masses - there is no ‘scapegoat’ just stop it already
hutterite and the maple leaf foods cluster (originating with a group of middle management) are over - that’s why cases are falling rapidly
as always the prairies remain almost free of covid with an occasional cluster - everything that was expected
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Well Vancouver was like watching the jets...
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nico hischier for Laine is an interesting trade
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7 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:
Trump, his administration, his family, influential enablers and certain propaganda outlets have really exposed the erroneous assumption a lot of us made that there was a secure system in place (not perfect but there) to deter and/or deliver consequences for unconstitutional and/or illegal behaviours/acts by a current ruling party in the U.S.A. The system in place is just words on paper nothing more, Trump confirmed that loud and clear.
Anyone lurking out there that thinks this is absurd to say convince me otherwise I'm feeling quite cynical right now.
Its absurb to say that the system was secure. GWB admin was absolutely corrupt and stole massive amounts of $$ from the American people - Trump is not an aberration, he is a natural progression - Roger Stone, etc have all been in place since Nixon...
The question is... was the 'system' ever not corrupt or do we just have more access to information now?
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Whoa check this conspiracy... Covid is acting exactly like every other coronavirus that ever existed... #mindblown
Herd immunity was and still is our best hope - there is no vaccine coming, the virus is weakening - but we are keeping it stronger for longer - and we are still not adequately protecting the ones actually threatened by covid...
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6 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:
Must have glossed over this...there are 6 strains of C19.
We have known this for four months now - but if someone mentions it you’re call crazy
the predominant strain is more contagious but far less deadly - hence the lack of hospitalizations conciding with cases
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9 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:
Oh ****, here we go again... it's all a global conspiracy, but Floyd is on top of it and going to break that **** wide open! Go get em!
Oh you're right... the sky is falling. Cases are 'spiking... everyone run.
There's no conspiracy. Just groupthink based on caseload and the deaths of two people in their 90s.
General population paying for irresponsibility of a few clusters.
2020 Thread
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