Jaxon
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If Walker signs in BC, do we go with what we have, or do we go after Rhymes?
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5 hours ago, Tracker said:
Reported on 1290 radio today that Walker is asking 180K. Doesn't sound exorbitant.
I think he will be able to attract that kind of cash. That's a whole lot less than the 280 that was rumoured.
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I think that Arceneaux is past his prime. A few years ago he was a top level receiver, but I think that is well behind him. Didn't do much last year in Sask.
Roosevelt is more interesting, but would have to be very cap friendly to be of interest. Arceneaux and Roosevelt are similar in age, but Roosevelt put up much better numbers last year and played all 18 regular season games, finishing just under 1000 yds, (he went over 1000 yds if you include the playoff game against us where he caught another 7 passes.)
I'm quite happy with the receivers that we have signed now. If they want to add one more proven performer, clearly Walker is the best one available, but he would have to adjust his price, because I don't see us turning the salary scale upside down to get him. I'd also look at Rhymes on the same basis.
I think it prudent to keep some cash in the kitty in case one of our NFL bound players becomes available later in the season.
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On 2020-02-11 at 2:01 PM, Floyd said:
Since when is Derel Walker not a difference maker... as soon as Chapdelaine came to his senses Walker was dominant again
Walker is a great receiver, I'm not trying to slag him. My point is that I don't think that he's miles ahead of other great receivers in the league. Daniels, Posey, Walker are all very good, but I don't think teams are willing to bust their cap for one of them, when another might be more budget friendly. I'm quite happy with Adams, Lawler, Woli, Demski, Bailey, Petermann if it means we have the dollars to spend on strength up and down the roster (QB, O-line, D-line etc) Toronto didn't win a ton of games because they had Walker on the roster. One receiver isn't worth blowing the budget over.
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14 minutes ago, Geebrr said:
TSN Hamilton says Posey is asking for 200k.
I can see why nobody wants a part of that.
The lack of talk about Rhymes since the season ended is something I find odd.
I think he is just getting started as one of the best.
I think Posey, Rhymes and Walker are all going to have to accept significantly less than what they were expecting. They are all good receivers, but they aren't difference makers. There are plenty of good receivers out there both imports and Canadians.
as part of this list, Roosevelt, Simonise, Cory Watson, Chris Matthews, SJ Green, Luke Tasker, Manny Arceneaux, DaVarius Daniels. Lots of big brand names, although some are past their prime. Fact is that when there is lots of supply, prices fall. If a team wants a veteran player, there are plenty. If they want to go young, the US colleges pump out lots of prospects every year.
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On 2020-02-03 at 6:28 PM, Noeller said:
I thought players were putting that bonus in there on purpose so they would have enough time to find a new gig with someone else.......or somesuch.......but I thought the Jan/Feb roster bonus was brought about by the players themselves...
This is it exactly. The Jan/Feb bonus isn't a reward for last season, it is up-front money for the upcoming season. Kind of like a down payment for future services. In many ways, it's like a season ticket holder paying a down payment for the upcoming season, if you make the down payment, the service provider doesn't sell your ticket to someone else, and then you pay the balance as the season starts or progresses. If you don't make the down payment, then the service provided may sell your seat to someone else.
In this case the team has to make the payment to the player in order to secure their rights for the coming season. If not, the player can sell their services to someone else.
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On 2020-02-03 at 7:40 PM, JCon said:
Teams are at an advantage now because agents can't BS about the offers they're getting.
I completely agree. The window will allow the current team to see what formal offers their current player has before they are formally "lost". It may give them the opportunity to match (or not) a real offer. There is nothing to stop a player from waiting out to the deadline and then play games, but it will help in reducing the BS of the old system, especially for the players that do it straight up. Under the new system a player who feels he isn't getting a fair deal can go out and get a real offer from another team and give his current team the opportunity to match. Under the old system he could do that, but his current team had no way of knowing if it was real or a bluff. Now the current team will know if there is a real offer there.
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6 minutes ago, Noeller said:
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have signed quarterback Zach Collaros to a contract extension which could total nearly $1 million.
General manager Kyle Walters paid Collaros $440,000 in hard money for 2020 and $450,000 in 2021. Each year Collaros can make an additional $50,000 in playtime bonuses. For every game he plays 51 percent or more of the offensive snaps Collaros collects $2,777.77. The signing bonus checks in at $225,000.
Collaros earned $310,000 in hard money last season — $115,000 in base salary and $20,000 in housing combined with a $175,000 signing bonus. He was given a substantial pay raise of more than $130,000 in hard money year over year. Winnipeg decided to focus their efforts on inking Collaros to a new pact over fellow veteran QB Matt Nichols.
Nichols collected $455,000 in 2019 — a $225,000 roster bonus which was paid on January 15, $209,000 base salary and $21,000 combined for housing and travel. However, he sustained what Winnipeg described as a “significant shoulder injury” last August when he was strip-sacked by B.C. Lions defensive lineman Shawn Lemon.
Walters acquired Collaros at the trade deadline and it paid off with the veteran quarterback producing a 4-0 record, including three wins in the playoffs en route to hoisting Earl Grey’s mug. Collaros was the starter who propelled Winnipeg to the run through the end of the season, playoffs and ultimately a Grey Cup championship. Bombers’ head coach Mike O’Shea saw Collaros as ‘the guy’ during the victories which led to a CFL title.
Winnipeg sent their third-round choice in the 2020 CFL draft to the Toronto Argos for Collaros and a fifth-round selection during the October deadline. Now that the Bombers re-signed Collaros, Toronto receives an additional first-round pick, ninth overall in the 2020 CFL draft.
Collaros has amassed a 35-31 win-loss record while completing 65 percent of his passes for 16,979 yards and 94 touchdowns against 52 interceptions in 92 games over eight seasons. During three post-season games with the Bombers, Collaros totalled 630 passing yards, two touchdowns, one interception while completing 65 percent of his attempts.
The Bombers have heavily invested in Collaros as the starter at the game’s most important position for the next two seasons.
This would appear to be a "market rate" deal. Puts him behind Reilly and BLM, but in line or better than everyone else. I think it's a fair deal.
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1 minute ago, Mike said:
I’m not particularly interested in signing Collaros. Call him a Grey Cup champion all you want, he deserves it. He didn’t play great. Our D carried us, especially in the final game and Collaros honestly is lucky he escaped the playoffs without a turnover, because he easily could’ve thrown 4 or 5 picks if not for some bad mitts by some defensive backs.
Taking nothing away from him, but as a guy who isn’t a Nichols fan, Collaros didn’t do anything Nichols wouldn’t be able to do.
I'm a fan of both Collaros and Nichols, but I realize it isn't realistic to have both.
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53 minutes ago, Booch said:
Just noticing on Panzer Hansen's big hit, that he basically engaged his block about 8-10 yards from point of smashing Williams and bulldozed him the whole way..basically picking him for the last 5-6 yards and more or less tossing him into Williams...man that guys has gotta be a beast
Funny thing is, I'm not sure that the play is actually over. (Technical detail) If Hansen never made contact with the returner, but rather the contact was made by the Hamilton player, then there is an argument to be made that he wasn't touched, and wasn't down by contact with a Bomber.
I was at the game and saw it live fairly close up, and it gave me goosebumps.
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Personally, I would be quite happy if the Bombers signed ZC ASAP and sent Toronto the draft pick. A first round draft pick has some value, but a Grey Cup winning QB is well worth it.
(Not saying I think it will happen, just that it would make me happy.) Remember, he signed in Saskatchewan even though his wife had ties to Ontario, so I wouldn't rule it out.
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IMHO, we need to sign MOS. Far and away most important, more so than any one player, as much as I love them. Long term stability at the top is what builds dynasties. I want the Bombers to be a dynasty, not just a flash. I'm a long term season ticket holder (since 1970), and I've seen the high's and lows over decades . What I've seen for the last number of years is a competitive team that players want to come to. Credit to Wade Miller, Kyle Walters and MOS for that. When you build the right culture, the victories will come.
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7 minutes ago, JCon said:
50 goals/season or he's a bust.
Might depend on who he's playing with.
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Hopefully this encourages Conner to get his deal done, and for Buff to make a final decision.
I have concerns regarding Laine's consistency, especially in his own end, but there is no doubt about his ability to put pucks in the net. I would suggest that it is better for the team to have this deal done, and to get on with playing hockey. Holdouts cause disruption to a team, and now they have one less to worry about.
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26 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:
well two things to note. It's not illegal to play music/have the announcer going until the ball is snapped I believe. And the Bombers absolutely do that, just like every other team.
Some people (like Derrick can't handle smoke Dennis) claim they pump in like actual crowd noise. Which again, isn't against the rules. but kinda weird. I've never noticed anything like that. And it would likely be really hard to pick up at the worst of times and basically impossible to prove. This is a case of people not understanding engineering and how the shape of a building/wall can in fact amplify noise, even allowing it to echo. So I'm very skeptical about that claim.I don't believe the Bombers pump in crowd noise.
That being said, it is illegal to play music/ make announcements etc after the offence has broken the huddle.
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I'm confident that Streveler will continue to develop as he gets more game time. The number one asset for all QB's is the ability to read a defense. That only comes with experience. Running a full offensive package is quite different that a limited "change of pace" package that he usually comes in with. It took great QB's like Flutie and Calvillo several seasons to reach their potential, neither were good right off the hop.
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34 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:
How much of the game has to be played? Hypothetically could a team score a fg on their first drive and then there is a severe weather delay and after one hour they get a win?
TSN said that the minimum is the mid point of the 3rd quarter. One of the problems that I have with this is that i’ve Seen some games where a strong wind is a significant factor, so having an imbalance in time played with the wind could be quite unjust.
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6 hours ago, 66 Chevelle said:
well then, color me crazy then for thinking that with the game on the line that the person considered to be the best option for moving the offense should be QB1, not a back up...
It’s strictly situational. There are other situations where they took out Mathews and put Miller in. Other times they took out Couture and put Remple in. It doesn’t mean Remple should start at centre, it just means he has special skills as a long snapper.
In the last minute of the game, with the lead, you want to run the ball to keep the clock running. Strevs is a better runner than Matt, so the coaches made the right decision that proved successful. I think it is folly to extrapolate situational decision to mean anything else.
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I’m not fond of this rule at all. It just has too many possible ramifications.
Imagine a game in the final seconds, and you need a chip-shot field goal for the win, but just as Medlock is trotting out, there is a distant flash of lightening. We head to the locker room, only to lose an hour later, never being given the chance to kick the ball.
Now imagine that this determines a playoff sport, or worse, was a playoff game.
That being said, I was one of the guys at the very long Bomber-Eskie game that stayed to the end. I have a quirk in my personality to see things through to the finish.
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Need a stop
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Getting tired of TSN calling it a clerical error. It is a coaching error.
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On 2019-07-08 at 9:51 AM, TrueBlue4ever said:
- Ottawa actually took a knee out of "victory formation" on 3rd down with 20 seconds left on the clock, literally conceding a turnover to the Bombers on their own 20 yard line while trailing in the game. Have never seen that before.
Tim Burke did it here when we were losing. It really pissed me off.
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I bought in, more to support the league than a sense of ego or personal legacy. I respect that some people feel it is a cash grab, but I look at it as a decimal place in my long term support of the team and the league during tough times.
I fully respect the hard work and dedication that the players and coaches put into the game, all with the goal of getting their name on the cup. I don't want to diminish what they've done, but supporting this initiative doesn't put your name on the cup, only on the fan base. I've been a season ticket holder since 1970, and rarely miss a home game. I've been to 20+ Grey Cups including the last 17 in a row. I've been to games in every CFL city. I've coached kids at the amateur level who have gone on to play in the CFL. I believe that the fan base, especially the season ticket holders, are the bedrock of the league. I would respectfully suggest that I've got as much or more invested in this league as a player who played a half a season, got paid, and lucked out and made the game day roster on a championship team.
As a note, I renewed my season tickets for the Bombers as a show of on-going support. I also have a subscription to the WSO, and I donated my "cancelled" tickets to the organization rather than request a refund. If we want to have these things in our city, we need to support them.
I recognize that my financial situation is different than others, and that does affect the decision making process. Certainly years ago supporting the league like this wouldn't have been an option for me, so I don't cast shadows on those who don't participate. It's really not much different than supporting other charities, many of whom put up a plaque to recognize their donors.