17to85

no not in so many words but the implication was there, trying to pick up the poor down trodden bomber fans spirits etc etc. acting like the superior rider fan. Honestly if you are 14 it's easier to tolerate, you were just unfortunate to be raised in that propaganda and actually believe it. Here's a tip though, as I said before, most of the people who post here have been fans of the CFL for a long time, the new rider fans are annoying and you are never going to be liked no matter how courteous you try to be, You'd have been better off just trolling at least there'd be a chance to earn respect. Young posters trying to ingratiate themselves though? No chance. Lots of kids are too young to know what they don't know.

Just glad that Walters is at least aware that we needed help on the defensive line. That goes a long way to letting me have more faith in him. That nonsense about no room for Hall really had me worried.

Because I want perspective after some of the condescending crap you've said. I already had you pegged as a young and new fan who probably doesn't remember the Riders being the CFL punchline. One of those annoying type who joined the bandwagon post 2003 when it really started to fill up after TSN started their nonsense about Rider fans being so awesome. I have nothing but respect for long time Rider fans, the ones who actually stuck through the lean years, those are good fans, the people who jumped on the bandwagon after the team started to improve though? Those guys aren't the best anything they're just bandwagon jumpers. Most of the people who post here are old enough to remember when the Riders couldn't win for ****. We don't need some Johnny come lately rider fan telling us how to deal with bad seasons, we've been there done that and come through it. All those years without a grey cup weren't all bad teams, there were some down right dominant teams in there they just didn't win that last game.

So much this. Guy was a great player for us for a lot of years, I hated seeing him buried on the depth chart and not even getting a chance to earn his way back on the field.

Yeah I don't see anyone doing that, I see people surprised and offering sympathy to a guy who is likely going through some addiction troubles.

No surprises, Canadinns was louder too I have no doubts, but the Rider fans bought their own crap about being the best fans EVAH!!!!11!!!! and can't comprehend not being the best anything.

getting anything for a guy who isnt playing is a good move

god I hope you're joking

Yeah but that's the real key there, and because I feel like being pedantic here you cna't have cheered for the riders as long as you've lived, infants have no concept of that.

perhaps this person forgot that the CFL went back to allowing blocks to come from the side? Nothing illegal there. The missed holds on the riders o-line were far more blatant.

Hopefully they have the west wrapped up by that time comes, or at least by our second game against them. The second one in in Calgary right? The Dinos could take the field in that one and thump the Bombers, just the way it goes out here.

and I've told you before that you can't just pull numbers out of your ass and call them statistics.

well that's something you never really expected to hear... guy seemed like he wasn't one of those types, guess you can never be sure.

fumbles on punt returns have nothing to do with his abilities as a defensive back... everyone gets burned at some point, looked like simply making the wrong read, perhaps he expected pressure to get to Durant quicker and force the shorter throw, who knows. Don't sweat individual plays so much, he's a great defensive back.

Start Brohm or Marve ? Personally I think this is a lazy move by Ottawa (O'Brien and Carder could use some reps, you know to actually develop). One of my only issues with the CFL for years has been how some players only stick around due to their experience within the league. There have been a whole pile of qbs who were thrown into the fire too early and been ruined as prospects because of it. Not everyone is a Ricky Ray who can come in immediately and start. Most of them need time to learn before they're ready to take over.

Problem is, who is that someone ? There's a reason why the league allowed Braley to have the team in the first place. Find them! there's so much money in Toronto and Southern Ontario the league has to do a sell job to someone and convince them that owning the team is for the greater good. Hell work hard on MLSE and get them under that umbrella if that's what it takes. I refuse to believe that there is no one in that area willing to own the team.

it was not worth a try because any amount of common sense would say that it was going to wind up exactly like it has. I guarantee that GMs and HCs went "we can get free PI calls with a challenge flag? SOLD!"

everyone knew it was going to fail before they implemented it. The CFL has a bad problem of making poor changes just for the sake of making changes. It's great to be progressive and willing to change but they need to be smarter about it.

- Bellefuile started stretching the field on our fifth pass... and we had a really nice drive - all short passes - for the TD in the 3rd - Etch does seem to have difficulty adjusting to Cortez' game, going to be in tough against Dickenson too Stretching out the field helps keep the underneath stuff open. We don't have to connect on all of them for it to have value. It was a bit odd that we failed to connect on any of them, but Saskatchewan still had to respect the deep game. And just like in the last Rider game, their Oline blew up massive holes in our Dline. More often than not their RBs went untouched until they were 7 yards past the line of scrimmage. 4 Riders in the top 15 in CFL rushing? Behind an Oline like that, I don't know why they waste plays passing. And the similar quality of Calgary's Oline will create similar problems. Compounding that, Calgary has a solid passing game, while the Riders passing attack kinda sucks this year. We were in a position to win both games against the Riders so far and made at least one too many mistakes to earn a W. The games against Calgary will have to be nearly mistake-free. They are the class of the CFL. I agree you have to stretch the field but wouldn't you want to wait until they had stopped the short stuff. Both the running and the short passing game were giving them troubles so why keep doing it. Throw long once just to keep them honest but on every second down. I know that game is done but the season isn't. No, keep the opposing defense off balance and your day as an offense is a lot easier. Make them cover everything from the get go, give yourself the most options.

But it's the exact same problem, if you go looking for it you can find pass interference on a majority of plays in the CFL. A lot of them don't get called because they're simply not that bad. The review process still opens it up to that judgement call and it is playing out exactly like many of us predicted it would, it's a joke and just makes things even less clear. Let the refs call it on the field and drop the review process because the review process is doing nothing to make things better. It was implemented as a knee jerk reaction to one bad miss in the playoffs. One mistake begat another mistake.

Reebok can't win because Reebok can't design something that actually looks good. You see what the common thread is there? Reebok goes plain it's ugly, Reebok goes out there it's ugly... Reebok does new jerseys for the CFL they are worse looking than the previous ones, Reebok does new hockey jerseys and they're gross too. Common thread is that Reebok sucks.

And a lot of people would say that Khari's career got shortchanged due to injuries from playing behind our crap Oline. This Willy kid is the real deal. Hopefully our Oline gets a massive upgrade by the start of next year so Willy's career doesn't go the way of Khari's. There is no question about that. His shoulder got ****** from the hits he took.

I think he's better too, but Hall at least got some starts last year and went through training camp with the Bombers. Did Elliott even get to a training camp this year?

Cornish is probably the worst player for our defense to have to face. He's a good combination of fast and powerful and that is going to be trouble.

Tell me something, how old are you? How long have you been a rider fan? I think that would answer a lot of questions.