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It's never just one thing, most often it's a combination of a lot of things. Maybe the game plan is too vanilla (gee no one said that about Lapo before we hired him....) but guys are missing plays that are there as well. That's actually the most frustrating thing about the line in my mind. They are so hit or miss with no in between. Seems that if they don't get a great block in they completely whiff and don't even slow anyone down.

Glenn had a much better team around him though. Good OL, Milt Stegall and Charles Roberts as weapons. It's not even comparable the situations the two were in.

It's what smart managers do to win ball games.

It's funny they bring it up because I see so many similarities between Willy and Glenn in 08. The situations are so damned close it's not even funny and I actually think Glenn is probably the best comparable for Willy out there. decent qb if surrounded by the right mix of people but not the guy who will carry a crappy team on his back.

Nichols ain't no screaming hell and without a strong supporting cast he will get beaten down as well. We will be back to Willy before the season is done and perhaps some time on the bench to watch will help him avoid the panic situations that have been his only real problem the last few years. See how much time is actually being given rather than his internal alarm going of as soon as the ball is in his hands.

Bowman

Plus if you put him under a GM instead of giving him both roles perhaps it turns out different too. I am a believer in giving people 2nd chances if they earn it so I wouldn't be totally opposed, but I still think the biggest problem here is the GM.

Well how about that....

The team would be aces at taking intentional offside penalties.

Of course they care. That's why we average a new coach every two or three years. They aren't intentionally making poor hires. They believe they are making the correct choices

They already know that fans are unhappy and their support is waning. All they have to do is look around the stadium on gameday and listen to the fans booing their own team. They know the fans are pissed, never question that.

I am not sure about that. A win in 07 likely would have prevented Mike Kelly from coming here and starting the downward spiral he did. He took a hatchet to the roster and gutted everything and was so causitc he was fired immediately and we got into another rebuild which was followed up by another rebuild. A win in 07 though the pressure in 08 is gone and Berry and Taman likely get more time before they start looking for the next guy and maybe the roster isn't gutted in one fell swoop. Team has been spinning it's tires every since They decided to can Berry and bring in Kelly.

You are the one who said the guy looks fast as if it had any meaning what so ever about his ability to be a defensive back. Lots of guys on a football team are fast, not all of them can cover.

Fooforaw. 26 years since there will be no cup this year.

plus if we did hire Tillman we could use this clip all the time....

not even if I'm really really mad?

I also just want to add, that the Bombers are not a joke. Jokes are funny and this isn't funny.

Have you read this place? It's a zoo after a loss, any loss regardless of what happened before or what manner of loss it was. This fan base is up and down more than a yo-yo.

if being fast was the only requirement to cover guys then let's scout the 100m dash at the Rio Olympics for our next db....

Oh it's cute that you think that. Bomber fans have no tolerance for losing, if they'd fired O'Shea and were still losing in this fashion this season they'd still be angry except instead of calling for O'Shea to be publicly flogged in the streets it would be Walters and his new head coach along side him they'd want to see be whipped through the streets.

SAM is a defensive back position not a linebacker position. Once we accept that we can all stop making silly things about asking linebackers to play defensive back positions.

Ugh not Higgins, I'd take Pervert Tillman before Higgins, Tillman is a piece of **** but at least he is actually good at his job.

Neufeld's biggest fan is Kyle Walters, he's going to be a staple on this team until he either breaks beyond repair or Walters is canned. Neufeld was one of the very first moves Walters made and he paid more than he should have to get him because he feels that strongly about him.

They don't hand the ball off to Harris enough for that to happen and when they do hand off to him he's having to make guys miss in the backfield so if he gets a yard or two it's a big win. The run game on this team sucks and it's because guys aren't winning the line of scrimmage. Sets the tone for everything. Why did we expect any different from a Lapo offense? We saw it here twice before and the only time it looked good was with Khari Jones tossing the ball to Stegall and Bruce with Roberts and Sellers liberally sprinkled in. I could probably look good calling an offense with those guys around.