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26 minutes ago, Jacquie said:
How many games did other teams 3rd stringers (not including Montreal) get significant playing time in that was not due to injuries?
26 minutes ago, Jacquie said:How many games did other teams 3rd stringers (not including Montreal) get significant playing time in that was not due to injuries?
We don't even play the backup qb so that's my entire point. Why worry about developing Davis when we never will once Nichols is signed?
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16 minutes ago, WBBFanWest said:
You seem to be forgetting that a third string QB is one hit away from being the backup, and then one hit away from starting. We've seen teams end up with multiple QB injuries in the same season and having to utilize their "interchangeable" guy. You're being more than a bit myopic.
Okay true, but does O'Shea seem worried about Davis seeing any playing time for development purposes when he's 2 hits away from being the starter? He obviously isn't concerned.
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1 hour ago, MOBomberFan said:
A cursory googling will show that Dominique Davis was bouncing around the NFL in 2014; he joined the CFL in 2015 with Calgary. Not that that's the important part. If he's brought back then that means the coaches think he is doing things right in practice and has the potential to do something good down the road. You don't want your 3rd string QB to be starting often. I remember rushing 3rd stringers Justin Goltz and Robert Marve into action and it didn't go so great.
Marve's knees were shot like Joe Namath so thinking he may be the next starter didn't make a lot of sense as he didn't last very long once he played. He had the skill set but not the physical capability anymore with his 2 injured knees. Goltz just couldn't do it as he wasn't that good to begin with as we all saw once teams forced him to throw from the pocket. He couldn't read defenses & he was the epitomy of the 2013 season & why I never want to remember it again as long as I live.
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2 hours ago, 17to85 said:
I don't think Glenn is a foregone conclusion. When asked about that Walters basically gave the "he wants more money than we have budgeted for the position" Honestly I think Davis is likely to be the backup going into the season.
It's just silly to me to think that just because a 3rd stringer hasn't been in a position where he's had to start that he is suddenly not worth keeping around. QBs take time to ripen and you seem to want to move on from a guy they have invested time into right when he should potentially be starting to pay off.
So, I don't get your point. You don't like my opinion about Davis saying it's not smart to sign someone else at #3 & that getting rid of him is precisely why the Bombers never develop our own qbs. I agree with you about that but disagreeing with me makes no sense when you should be questioning Walters & O'Shea for how they handle the backup qb position, especially O'Shea. After Willy was traded, they signed Kevin Glenn & made him the backup qb. They didn't promote Davis from #3 to #2 as you'd expect if they truly wanted to develop their own in house qb long term. Then after they signed Glenn in September he never played a single, solitary ground nor did Davis. With Nichols getting every snap after Willy was traded it meant Davis saw no action & he continued to languish on the bench at #3 behind Glenn. You can't develop a qb standing on the sidelines holding a clipboard. Only getting on the field in meaningful situations would have made Davis a better player. So, if he isn't seeing any playing time why bother "developing" him as O'Shea doesn't think Davis is important enough to be the actual #2 or get any meaningful playing time? The Bombers created this hierarchy at qb. O'Shea just makes it worse when he plays the starter the entire way Marc Trestman played Calvillo. There was no qb development with the Als under Trestman either. So like I said, get on the Head coach's case if you want the Bombers to develop Davis.
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14 hours ago, Brandon said:
How dare Davis not start ahead of 300 - 400 thousand dollar man Willy and how dare he doesn't leap ahead of a vet like Nichols who led us to a big winning streak.
Cutting Davis because he isn't the starter is ridiculous... if anything I hope he comes back because I would much rather have a guy who has trained and practiced with our club and is familiar with our players and system then throwing a nobody out with zero experience.
Why is it ridiculous? He's played in the league since 2014, started 1 game & is now negotiating his second contract which will mean more money. The team will have to first sign Nichols & then see if they bring back Glenn which I think is a high probability so why give Davis more money for holding a clipboard when they can bring in a cheaper option for the #3 qb position? If there's a salary move at the qb position it'll either be Glenn or Davis.
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5 hours ago, Mark H. said:
Except that Trump isn't going to do anything different for the right wing white vote. I'm baffled by people who are satisfied with lip service. Trump will do no more to accommodate their personal beliefs than Obama did. The United States, and all other countries, needs to get past the idea that any leader will somehow accommodate their personal beliefs.
Trump played the game and got himself elected. His VP is a guy who makes clips about 'grace before dinner and church on Sunday' that got them millions of votes in the mid-west. They will do nothing for the people who voted for them because of that, but so many of them blindly believe they will.
I agree entirely Mark. I don't like Trump but the dissatisfaction in the Rust Belt States & White America is quite clear. The Democrats thought the White Vote was unimportant as did most political pundits. They felt the Woman's Vote, Latino & Black Vote would get Clinton elected but on Election Day they all stayed home which in itself was incredible. The White Vote came out strongly that day & got Trump elected. Like I said, I don't like Trump at all but his election strategists sure called it right on November 8th. They won the States he needed to win & got the EC vote. Now America, you got the government you deserve.
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5 hours ago, Rich said:
No one is bent out of shape and it isn't a waste of time, it is the off season. You posted an opinion, people disagreed. It is discussion. It is how message boards work.
Some here I noticed seem to think that Nichols is a poor qb & state that he's not worth the money he'll probably get from the Bombers. They feel that any other qb is better. I have heard names like Rakeem Cato & Franklin being thrown around for good measure. They are willing to ditch Nichols & hand the team over to an inexperienced qb in Franklin. They seem to think that to overpaying & trading for Franklin with draft picks & starters is a good thing. OTOH, they feel that paying Nichols anywhere close to what he wants is a bad thing. A CFL qb's salary is not guaranteed so if necessary he can be released if there are no takers in a trade. However, oonce we trade players & draft picks there's no way going back. As far as Davis goes, he's in a bad situation with O'Shea as he'll never play & if he really desires to become a starter he has to leave the Bombers & look for opportunities elsewhere. That'swhy I think arguing about the 3rd string qb position isn't that important. Davis is interchangeable.
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Why worry about a player like Davis who'll never start here because the coaches don't want him to? Nichols will probably sign &/or Glenn comes back. Judging by the way O'Shea plays his backup qbs & the lack of time they get we could get by with just about anyone. There are bigger concerns than a third string qb & posters getting bent out of shape over it if a fan like myself doesn't think he's that good.
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9 minutes ago, Jacquie said:
Obama did NOT give us Trump. Two unlikable polarizing candidates going against each other gave us Trump. A late November poll indicated Obama still has a high approval rating (57% - compare that to George W Bush whose average approval rating was 49%.
Obama gave us Trump. He truly alienated the right wing white vote that no one felt was important. Trump saw that & exploited it. Were the Dems & everyone else wrong. Outgoing Presidents seem to carry the popular vote. Lots of Presidents & Prime Ministers would be very happy with a 49% approval rating nationwide.
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54 minutes ago, DR. CFL said:
Nichols , like it or not is the deaf to starter and needs to be resigned. That still leaves the issue of having a competent back up in the fold, be it Glenn or someone else. This year again proved that having adequate depth at QB in the CFL is paramount.
I'd be happy to have Nichols & Glenn back & bring in a new 3rd stringer. Davis has been in the CFL for 3 seasons now & other than playing in a meaningless last regular season game in 2015 hasn't done anything to show that he is a long term starter. Time to bring in another developmental qb.
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Obama gave us Trump. He was that bad. Kerry lecturing the Israelis on settlements was just so stupid with 3 weeks left to the change of the Presidency. Obama can try to sign into law as many bills as he likes before he leaves the White House but with Congress & Senate controlled by the Repubs as many laws as possible will be struck down by Trump when he take over. Like the Keystone Pipeline.
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3 hours ago, JCon said:
RE: Franklin and Nichols.
They've been down this road together before and I doubt either would be too happy with the situation.
If you're Nichols, how happy are you to be looking over your shoulder each week? Either the club believes in you or it doesn't. It's one thing to bring in a raw rookie (like Davis) that needs time to develop or a old vet, who can come in if you get injured or the game is out of reach. It's an entirely different scenario if you have a player who's seemingly ready to take the next step. And, who has supplanted you before as a starter.
If you're Franklin, why would you want to play behind Nichols again? I know he doesn't have much of choice if he's traded but his contract is up next year. He could leave next winter for nothing. Knowing the way MOS works, it's not as though Franklin is going to get many reps.
If you're the Walters, why would you pay to bring him in? Your coach doesn't like to change QBs and you'll pay a premium for a guy to sit. You may even lose him next year for nothing.
Nichols had Glenn looking over his shoulder & he never saw the field. O'Shea picks & his starter & sticks with him as long as he plays well. Even then it would take Mike 6-8 games to make a change so I don't think Nichols would ever have to worry about Franklin. I'll state this again, it'll take our first pick & at at least one of our dominant starters, maybe 2 to pry the kid out of Edmonton. That's too steep a price to pay in my opinion. I think people here would change their tune if they actually knew what Hervey would want for an unproven Franklin. Who, if he is so good would be gone from the Bombers in 2-3 seasons to the NFL.
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On 12/28/2016 at 1:29 PM, Rod Black said:
I like your criteria for having a name that ensures relevance for a very long time. A player that has been inducted into the Hall of Fame would satisfy my requirement for a named jersey.
So, fans should burn their Dieter Brock jerseys?
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4 hours ago, iHeart said:
sorry but I thought you were nitpicking me
This thread sure has become snarky...
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2013 was way worse than 2009.
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1 hour ago, tracker said:
Except that Harper didn't have a minority government for three of the five deficit years, and clung to power only by asking the pliable governor-general to do something never done before in Canadian history- prorogue Parliament when there was every reason to believe that Harper was going to lose a non-confidence motion.
The opposition in 2008 were planning on forming a coalition government to oust Harper in a coup & at the time the recession had just got started. Harper had a completely different budget but was forced by the Libs, NDP & Bloq to rip it up & go from an austerity budget to deficit spending.
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6 hours ago, Rich said:
If we took this argument on all topics, there would be no discussion on this board.
We don't impact personnel decisions on the football side of things, yet it is widely talked about.
Some posters here (not all) get carried away with their political beliefs & threads like this become shouting matches. The election is over & Trump is President so it doesn't matter about the popular vote anymore. Time to move on. I despise Trump but the US election was nearly 2 months ago.
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On 12/22/2016 at 9:42 PM, Goalie said:
Only top 6 pick in Jets 2.0 history strikes again!!!
In this rendition of the Jets. The Jets 1.0 drafted Dave Babych & Dale Hawerchuk.
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"Progressive" Conservatives like Clark, McDonald & later the Brian Mulroney coalition-umbrella gave us nearly two additional decades of Liberal rule going into the mid 2000's after 1980. Liberals love to promise the world & spend, spend, spend as well as raise taxes. That's what progressives do & how they roll.
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On 12/20/2016 at 10:00 AM, The Unknown Poster said:
Yes, those that voted as pledged for Trump upheld democracy. Those that voted against their pledge by not voting for Hilary also upheld democracy as long as you're a republican. lol
It was a silly campaign to begin with. But not completely without merit. If the Electoral College serves no purpose but to essentially ratify the vote, get rid of them. Their purpose is to be the final judgement on whether the winning candidate is worthy and qualified. One could certainly argue Trump is neither. In an election where he barely won and, in fact, lost the vote by a significant number, the purpose of the college was relevant. And they did exactly as expected and in our modern time, exactly as they should...which in turn shows how useless the whole thing is to begin with.
The American people will decide if the Electoral College should go or not. As Canadians we have no say. You can post whatever you want & try to justify your belief that it should go but in the end your opinion about the EC mean absolutely nothing. So why even worry about it?
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Socially progressive & so called fiscally conservative (of even that I doubt) Red Tories got Alberta into deep doo doo squat so badly the NDP unbelievably got in. Red Tories are like the Liberals, are a plague on the political landscape federally & provincially & just as vile. The most famous Red Tory was Joe Clarke & he lasted like 4 months as PM. Then there was Flora McDonald, his henchwoamn. Brian Mulroney's cabinet was full of separatists & Red Tories.
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I'm having a hard time discerning what you're trying to say. You put forth a statement that makes sense to me & I actually agree with you. Then you say my answer is unacceptable? Okay then, I don't have time to argue with someone who has two sides of an axe to grind at the same time.
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1 minute ago, JCon said:
They generate more revenue and contribute a lot more to the GDP. The City and Province would get a lot bigger return from them. That return can go to support other worthwhile programs.
Well, since you put it that way then okay.
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10 minutes ago, IC Khari said:
Keep waiting.
Game 39 : Second Smallest Arena @ Smallest Arena
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Okay, Goalie has won me over. Time to fire Maurice. That score is pretty bad & the Jets are going nowhere. Replacing Maurice will be Chevy's third head coach so if the firing happens he needs to be put on notice that this will be his last firing & subsequent hiring.