So, some random writer who won't put his name on a story ranks Streveler last. By you quoting that story, it tells me that you think it somehow validates what you've been saying. Well, it doesn't. You do seem pleased by it, though. Drew Willy played his typical game. Play not to lose but not to win. Dumb interception at the worst possible time. I'm not surprised with Streveler's ranking & I'm okay with it. .  I'd have put Streveler ahead of Willy based on Willy's  lacklustre performance. 

As a rookie, Streveler will have his ups & downs. What's needed is patience & a willingness by fans to understand that learning our offense & reading defenses, finding a receiver & making the right throw will take time. He should improve the more reps he gets in practice & with more playing time.  Dieter Brock had to wait an entire year before he got his second start but when he did he made the most of it.  Streveler has at least another 5 games to show what he's got as a qb & if he can make the most of it as well.  Those 5 games will be invaluable experience wise for him. 

46 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

I can’t answer for D or D, but my feature, In Case You Missed It will be on hiatus for a bit while I go on the 6 game IR. It’s a bit of a process to put together that bit and I’m fighting some health issues at this time. I’ll be checking in daily with some minor stuff..and I hope that works out.

Get well, man. Just remember the season is a marathon not a race.

On September 2, 1974,  just hours after quarterback Don Jonas had guided the Blue Bombers to a last play win on Labour Day over the Saskatchewan Roughriders at Taylor Field, he was traded to the Hamilton Tiger Cats for qb Chuck Ealey.  He was informed of the trade after the plane carrying the Bombers back to Winnipeg had landed just before midnight.  ( I was on that Air Canada flight in case you're interested). As Ealey wasn't ready to play their next game vs the Edmonton Eskimos, the Bombers started their rookie backup qb Dieter Brock, fresh out of college from  Jacksonville State with zero pro playing experience.

Six days later on September 8, 1974 at Clarke Stadium, Dieter Brock was at the helm of the Blue Bombers for the very first time & for the only time that season as the Bombers starting qb .  He got  hammered as the Eskimos blitzed the crap out of their defense. Brock was either on his back or running for his life the entire game.  His stats reflected how he was manhandled by the Esks defense. He attempted 27 passes, completed 12 for 176 yards, two interceptions, zero tds, a 44% completion average with a qb rating of 35.4. It would be almost an entire year before Brock would have another start against the Montreal Alouettes in September of 1975 at the Autostade after Ealey was traded to the Toronto Argonauts.  Brock would then be the full time Bomber starter for the next 9 seasons. 

I watched that game back in 1974. Brock was hurried, hit & harassed on nearly every passing play the entire game. He looked totally lost playing against that Eskimo defense that day. Little or nothing worked for Brock that game as the Bombers lost 24-2. I actually felt sorry for Brock as he just couldn't handle what the Eskimos defense did to him.  It was a tough, tough day for Brock.

Obviously Brock learned from everything he went through that day as he became a CFL HOF qb with 34,830 yards passing, 210 touchdown passes & a 57% completion average during his career.  He was the CFL's leading passer in 1978,  80,  81 &  84.  On October 3, 1981 Brock attempted 48 passes, completed 41, 16 of those consecutively with an 87% completion average. He surgically dissected the Ottawa Rough Riders defense that day in one of the finest performances by a qb that I have ever seen. He was the CFL's West Division's All Star qb from 1980-82 & an All Canadian in 1980 & 81. He won the Jeff Nicklin Trophy as the West Division's MVP & was a back to back  Schenley Award winner as the CFL's Most Outstanding Player in 1980 & 81. Brock was elected to the Canadian Football Hall Of Fame in 1995. 

Tburg, had you watched that game when Brock got his ass handed to him in 1974 you'd never have thought he'd have any kind of CFL career. Compared to Brock's first start,  Streveler looked 10 times better. He didn't panic & showed a lot of poise.  He threw 3 TD passes compared to zero for Brock.  So, comparing Streveler to Brock in their first game as starting qbs out of college is more accurate than comparing Brock to Tom Wilkinson back in 1974 or Streveler to Mike Reilly last Thursday night. 

I also seem to remember that the game in Edmonton 44 years ago was a cold, rainy day as well. 

26 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

Read slowly. Then read my reply to you. You're obviously reading something into what I'm writing instead of what's actually there.

I truly don't know what you're saying. You compare a CFL rook with no experience to a 6 year multiple CFL all star, Grey Cup champ & MOP & say we should be comparing Streveler's stats to Reilly's 408 yard passing performance & admit he came up short.  So, therefore he didn't play well at all. That's how I read what you said & I can't make any sense of it.

I was pleased by Streveler's performance. He threw 3 TD passes & I'm happy with that.  I think he did better than just okay & I expected Reilly would outplay him. anyway  As far as saying Willy had  better stats but we all dump on him? Well again DW is a veteran qb but he plays timidly. He tries to play safe but invariably screws up as he did last night with that pick.  He won't take chances then throws the game away with dumb decisions. He plays not to lose which he usually does & not to win which he rarely does. Willy's had his run & it hasn't been very good. That's how I look at Drew Willy as a CFL qb,

I see POTENTIALLY a much better upside to Streveler than there ever was with Willy.  More  athletic, the ability to run with the ball & a strong arm. Will he ever reach his full potential? Damned if I know but we'll see how he is developed after Nichols gets back. 

1 minute ago, TBURGESS said:

That's not what I was doing and you know it. I don't expect Streveler to have Reilly's stats or game. I do expect he will get better with reps and experience. I don't think that 1 game in a monsoon against a team without half it's DB's is a realistic yardstick for any QB. Good game or not.

Like I said, I don't get your point. Are you saying Streveler did or didn't have a good game? Decent game? Poor game? Were you satisfied with Streveler's play? I think if you compare most CFL qbs to Reilly they'll come up short on a good day.  

 

3 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

If you think that about 50% completions, under 180 yards, 3 TD's with 2 INT's is a good to great game for any pro QB, that's fine as long as you use the same criteria for other teams young QB's.

I suspect you'd be laughing at the Riders or the Als if one of their young guns lost a game with those stats.I know folks think that Jennings sucks. His stats are better. Willy sucks. His stats are better. Bridge runs hot and cold. His stats are better.

I like what I saw in Streveler, but I've seen young QB's have good first games then not be able to keep it up. Lets not suggest, like one poster, that we look to trade Nichols. Lets not suggest that he's our Franklin or the best player that Walters has brought in. Lets wait for a few weeks to see what we have before we overload the bandwagon.

I have no idea what your point is here? I really don't. 

4 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

Almost everyone is saying what a great game he had. I used Reilly as a comparison of what a good to great QB's stats look like on the same crappy wet night.

I see the first pick differently. Surprise eh? Both Woli and Sherritt came back to the ball. Sherritt made the better play and took the ball away. That being said, Streveler tried, unsuccessfully, to force the ball into a very small spot. The second INT didn't make any difference to the game, but it was still an INT.

I'm sure everyone can agree that Willy, a QB that is universally considered to be bad, had a bad game against BC. He threw for 100+ more yards, had 1 less INT and a significantly better completion % (71.4% vs 53.6%). I'm simply saying that we should hold our QB to the same standards that we hold other teams QB's to.

 

But you can't hold a rookie with no experience to a player who is a GC winner, GC MVP, CFL All Star & League MOP. You just can't.  You compare Streveler's performance to the performances of other inexperienced qbs in a similar situation.  That is the only fair way to do it that makes any sense. 

16 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Ewoks were originally supposed to be wookies.

https://uproxx.com/hitfix/307-days-until-star-wars-before-ewoks-lucas-planned-to-use-wookiees-against-the-empire/amp/

How awesome would that have been?

I hate Ewoks.  Kill zem. Kill zem all. 

 

This reminds me of Fantastic Voyage. Where scientists are shrunk down to destroy I believe a blood clot inside an important scientist by shrinking down & using a submarine  that travels thru the bloodstream. They battle white blood cells & machrophages.  It was filmed in 1966 so Lucas may have borrowed the idea from that film.

 

 

4 minutes ago, TheSource said:

I don't see anything wrong with a wide variety of diverse opinions.

This is what separates human beings from fascists, racists, extremests, rednecks, etc.

You also have a very good point about Nichols. Great QB, but he is developing a history of being injury prone, which may prevent him from ever leading a team to a Grey Cup. Needs to stay healthy for several  whole season in a row for a team to make a cup run.

 

 

I have no desire to get into it with you as well.  Others can do that if they want.  

26 minutes ago, Brandon said:

So nobody read my link....  even though some fans are not happy with the newer trilogy... the Lucas idea was batshit insane and would of killed the franchise completely. 

I haven't but I will read it. I agree with you about Lucas as Star Wars did seem to lose it's way with Return Of The Jedi & the Ewoks. The franchise changed from sci for adults to fantasy for kids to sell more merchandise. I'll read the link to see what Lucas' plan was. 

48 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said:

You are 100% correct about the Jets.  

one comment about Matt and now I am not a fan ?......does this line of thinking apply whenever somebody posts bad about a bomber player ?

please pm if you want to attack me.

again I will apologize to the rest of the people who visit here, and I will not engage with speed flex in here anymore. 

I won't be sending you any private messages.  I have no desire to have any conversation with you. You say what you say here & you get the responses back. You have nothing good to ever say about the Bombers & Jets. 

1 minute ago, NorthernSkunk said:

I am a longtime Blue Bomber fan. I am cheering for the whole team do well and win it all this season.  I am excited we may have a legitimate back up QB,  who may work his way up a ladder in the league somewhere real soon.  Hopefully he does it with us.  

Its not wrong to have differing opinions here and still be Blue Bomber fan is it ?

I have read very few comments from you that are positive towards the Jets in the playoffs & now the Bombers.  You're no fan as far as I'm concerned. . 

Four things that I ner liked about Star Wars over the years...

1. Ewoks.  I wish all those stupid little teddy bears would have been killed off.  Almost turned me off SW back in 1981.

2. Jar Jar Binks. Like the Ewoks, the character was created for little kids. 

3. Death of Hans Solo but understand why Harrison Ford wanted it done.

4. Death of Luke Skywalker. Almost the last straw for me & a lot of fans. 

6 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said:

Only if he gets us to a cup game this year right ?........but seriously, he got banged up at the end of last year and started this game on the 6 game injured list.  This kinda stuff just ain't good, for any player. 

No, the more you post the more ridiculous you are. Go cheer for the Eskimos. You don't cheer for the Jets so it's not surprising that you  have nothing good to say about the Bombers. Or Matt Nichols. Seems like you really are a troll. 

 

 

I remember the night Linebacker Mike Curtis of the Baltimore Colts who took out this  fan hard who ran on the field & tried to steal the ball back in 1971.  I watched that game. 

2 hours ago, TBURGESS said:

Streveler did OK against the Esks, who were without half of their DB's, but lets not pretend that he was great. He threw 3 TD's, 2 INT's, was 15/28 for a 53.6% completion average and only managed 178 yards, 37 of them on one pass into a blown coverage. Pretty darn good for a rookie QB in his first game, but not a world beater. I'd suggest that he'll have a tougher night against Montreal because of their DC and the fact they aren't starting 3 rookie DB's.

JFTR: Reilly threw for 408 (101 on one play), 1 TD, 1 INT and was 32/46 for a 69.6% completion avg, in the same conditions.

How many games has Reilly played compared to Streveler? Your bar of success for Streveler is way too high & unfair. Do you really think Reilly would have thrown for 408 yards as a rookie in his very first game? Not trying to be too negative towards your comments. Just pointing out it was grizzled veteran vs raw rookie. 

1 hour ago, NorthernSkunk said:

Seriously ? Just because somebody may not be a Matt Nichols crazy fan..,that makes them a troll ?

I have always hoped Matt would get us to a cup game....but as more games pass I see it as less likely to happen.    

What an idiotic comment. 

6 hours ago, NorthernSkunk said:

Move Nichols ?.......get something we need for him ?

 

 

I haven't seen Solo yet & now I will wait until it comes out on Shaw On Demand in a few months. 

3 minutes ago, blueandgoldguy said:

This is what happens when the organization hires a proven failure like Joe Mack as the assistant GM.  As we saw for 4 years in Winnipeg, he was mostly terrible at recruiting fresh new talent from the US.

Also when they spend big money at the MLB position but peanuts at qb. 

Drew Willy is the kind of qb where he gets completions but his teams travel up & down between the 35 yard lines & then stops. Whenever they get into scoring position he can't deliver.  He can't score when his team dep[ends on it. The guy shouldn't even be playing let alone starting.  He can't even be a decent #2 as what you see is what you get. A whole lot of nothing.

Couldn't be more happier for Henoc Muamba.