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3 hours ago, J5V said:
I was going to agree that he might be above average for the QBs that we've had but then I remembered, how would we know? We rarely get to see any others play.
That reminds me, missing from the list of QBs I mentioned above are the backups and I suspect many of them are also better than Nichols. Guys like Lulay, Masoli, and even our own Kevin Glenn.
As for the argument that you can win without the best QB, sure you can, if your team is exceptionally talented everywhere else. But I'd argue that two of the best QBs in the league played in the Grey Cup. I'd also point out that one of the reasons we never got to the Grey Cup was that Jennings outplayed Nichols by a country mile in the second half of the WSF. When Ottawa won it Burris played great. When Edm won it - Reilly. When Calgary won it - BLM. When Toronto won it - Ray. BC - Lulay. Montreal - Calvillo. etc, etc. In the CFL it may not be necessary to have a top quality QB to win the championship but it sure helps and is the rule rather than the exception.
We lost the WDSF not because of Nichols but because our defense played soft coverage all season & MOS didn't go for it on 3rd & 4. Trying instead for a 61 yard FG (which aside from Dave Dickenson's brutal call on the 2 yard line in the Grey Cup) was the dumbest call made by a head coach in the CFL this season. At least Dickenson owned it but O'Shea didn't as he said that he'd make the same decision again & again. Somehow that's Nichols fault.
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9 hours ago, Brandon said:
The only teams this season looking at a new starting qb are Montreal , Saskatchewan and Toronto.
The most likely available QB's are: Durant, Nichols, Glenn, Ray, Willy and maybe Burris. The club has the upper hand.....
Sorry, for reasons already stated, I don't agree.
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57 minutes ago, Brandon said:
The point is that a win loss record doesn't always mean that your winning record is all on the QB.
Nichols definitely helped us win a lot of games... I'm just not so sure yet that if a guy like Durant were to be on our team if the record would of been much different.
If you're hitching your wagon on signing Durant & letting Nichols go that's a huge risk. First, you're assuming he'll be available. Second, how do you know he comes here if the Als want to sign him as there'll be a bidding war. Now, it's $500,000 instead of $400-$425,000 that Nichols would sign for. Lastly, at age 35 or 36 with his injuries I hardly see how that's a win for the Bombers signing him.
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10 hours ago, Goalie said:
Well, If we are suggesting other options other than Nichols... a few pop in to my head... Keep in mind that with several of these guys, I'd probably sign Glenn to be a backup/starter for us so here goes
James Franklin - obvious choice here really
Rakeem Cato - Yeah i know, but... he's an option i suppose
Jeremiah Masoli- didn't look awful playing for the Ticats actually
Durant - I don't see it happening personally
Why do you think Franklin is obvious? What has he proven? Like Willy, when we signed him he has no starting experience & you want to hand the reigns of the team to him? We've already been through that failed experiment. Cato? One of the worst qbs in the CFL subject to multi meltdowns when things get hard. My gosh, think about it, Goalie. Do you want the worst starting CFL qb the past 2 seasons in Cato to take over for Nichols or an unknown in Franklin who is under contract to the Eskimos? To to get Franklin would mean giving up our first pick in the draft & probably a starter as well? The smart move is to sign Nichols & to use our first pick to hopefully get another starting Canadian & depth with the 6th pick.
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10 hours ago, Noeller said:
Would Fresno DC pay more than HC in the CFL?
They might & probably do. Fresno State is a smaller program than say, USC. They wouldn't have the budget to really pay what top coordinators would make in the NCAA. But if successful, it gets Steinhauer on the map to get a better paying gig at a bigger program & maybe even consideration for a head coaching position at some point.
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Toronto FC players complaining that the condition of the field at BMO was the reason they lost to Seattle in the league final. Soccer players are Divas anyway as they are always faking injuries. The MLS has a lot of blame in this. Playing the championship game in mid December may be the reason the field was in poor shape as it could never recover from the Grey Cup. How ridiculous. Grass doesn't grow in December in Canada & the Northern US. They should start & end the season a month earlier.
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Steinhauer to Fresno State as DC? I guess teams passed on him & he grew tired of waiting to be a head coach. He'll do well down there. Now what bright coach will be hired to be the DC in Hamilton? We're all hoping it's Ritchie Hall.
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23 minutes ago, J5V said:
No, not likely half way. Goalie was being kind to Nichols and didn't go far enough. Nichols is a below-average QB with crappy mechanics and a below average arm. A perfect match for our below average OC. The Bombers need to keep searching for a better OC and the next great Bomber QB. There's another Jones/Dunigan/Clements/Brock out there and Walters needs to find him and get him in here. I'm tired of this willingness on behalf of fans and management to settle for mediocre. I prefer to believe that mediocre is a temporary, not permanent, condition.
You don't ask for much, do you? Is finding the next great qb out there something like picking blueberries?
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5 hours ago, sweep the leg said:
He wasn't as bad as some people think, but he certainly wasn't as good as you think he was. He found some high end guys, but the garbage fire that was the "talent" on that 2013 team shows that he didn't find nearly enough of it.
With no role in putting the team together, I'd consider taking him back as a scout too, although he's old as **** now. I'd probably rather have Moll.
I don't think Mack will ever be back as Miller doesn't think much of him nor does Walters. I doubt if he'd work for the Bombers again anyway. His entire body of work as a GM resulted in the 2013 Blue Bombers & that is what he should forever be judged on.
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6 hours ago, bearpants said:
The point you're missing is there's no "love affair".... he isn't the messiah ready to take over the CFL with his spectacular QBing skills... what he is, is a capable QB who WILL win us some football games... and unless you haven't been paying attention... we haven't had one of those in quite some time...
Nichols Haters be like, "I wish I could touch the sky".
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Well, if you own a home you really don't have a choice unless you want to pay a company to do it which is expensive. I think your age estimation is a bit early. More like 70, I'd think. I did my parents sidewalk from the time I was about 13 & continued doing it after I was married until my father had to sell our house because of health reasons. I lived in an apartment so it's not like I was doing a lot of shovelling where I lived.
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All it takes is one...
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There's Montreal. Maybe the Argos. It's not like all doors are closed to him. I'd even say Saskatchewan but I highly doubt Nichols wants to deal with Chris Jones again.
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3 hours ago, J5V said:
Don't get the love affair with Nichols. He's far from great and was not the difference in this team in 2016. He was very much the same in 2015. If I was Walters the conversation would go something like this: "If you want to continue to be a part of what we're trying to build here then you're welcome to stay and here's what we're willing to pay you, we think it's very fair, take it or leave it".
And I don't get where you're coming from.
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2 hours ago, WBBFanWest said:
And this is why I'm so very thankful that you are NOT Walters
All the people who want to dump Nichols. Amazing how fast people forget 2013, 14 & 15.
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On 12/11/2016 at 3:14 PM, White Out said:
Wow. Still with this canard hey? Willy wont even be in the league in 2018. MAYBE he will be a backup next year. Give it up. He's done, you were wrong about him.
I wonder if it's now appropriate to ask how Jason Boltus would have done behind that line? Maybe we threw away a superstar & didn't know it.
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2 hours ago, Goalie said:
Talent is there. It's not being used properly. I get you refuse to accept that coaching is a problem but it Is a huge one.
No, don't think that. You may be right & as time goes on it is looking like Maurice may be fired. However you are complaining about coaching on just about every message you post in the Jets Forum here. I'm just saying you don't have to tell us everytime as we posters here already know your feelings. #pokingthebear
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1 minute ago, Goalie said:
Need a big trade or a coaching change for sure. 1 of the 2 needs to happen
How about better talent?
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8 hours ago, Goalie said:
It's more on coaching then anything.
When you've just been informed you've been caught in temporal causality loop.
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I watched Trump yesterday come on for an interview on CBS during the third quarter of the Army-Navy Game. They asked him what they thought about the game & he said he didn't know how good the level of the football game was. He just had to get that cheap shot dig in whether he knew it or not. These are young men who'll be on the front lines defending America soon & he kind of mocked how the players play. It was so Trump & so dumb. Just another day in the life of a clueless President -Elect.
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3 hours ago, Goalie said:
13 wins in 31 games. Most OT/Regular season losses in the league. That was Calgary 30th game today. No excuses. Our coaching is pathetic
You sound like a broken record. Okay, we get it. You don't like Maurice. Why do you have to keep repeating yourself on every thread here?
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I understand why the Als would want Chapedelaine. He's got years of experience & has had success at the Offensive Coordinator position. He's Francophone which would appeal to fans in Quebec. But Reed as GM? I think that's a quite a stretch & a huge mistake.
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Our defense choked. Our Head Coach choked on that call but he's too stubborn to admit a mistake. O'Shea deserves a new contract but I'm concerned his huge ego & arrogance will mean he'll never learn from his mistakes.