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5 minutes ago, Booch said:
UH YES...I wrong..cfl.ca says in 2017 Jefferson had 48 tackles..where do you get 46?...I use the whole amount of games played...for each player...their total season..all games..all stats..
Hughes is always on a career pace the last few years...and then dips to average to below average production..also..lack of Jefferson tackles this year to is because teams rush against Winnipeg less than any other team...at least 20 less rush attempts for the next closest team with same amount of games played...big factor
Up to now, often the Bombers have been ahead on scoreboard. I think that's a factor or theory anyway as to why they run less against them. I don't know the real inner workings of the line but Jefferson is on the other side this year than he was with the Riders, so Hughes and Jefferson both play on the wide side of the field this year. I would think a better matchup for Willie than the role he had with us always lining up against the Left tackle, traditionally one of the best linemen.
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23 minutes ago, Booch said:
don't hate Hughes..just saying/stating that I wouldn't call him the front runner...and history shows why..stats in june/july/aug don't make for MVP seasons unless sustained
Whats padded?
Padded may not be fair, that implies it was on purpose, I should have said not accurate, his tackle numbers are not that high. 2017- 46 tackles, 8 sacks, 0 FF. 2018- 34 tackles, 10 sacks, 2 FF. 2019- 11 tackles, 8 sacks, 5 FF. Willie is on pace for a 3 year low in tackles, but a career high in sacks and forced fumbles. Hughes 2017- 40 tackles, 11 sacks, 1 FF. 2018- 35 tackles, 15 sacks, 3 FF. 2019- 30 tackles, 10 sacks, 4 FF. Hughes is on pace for a career high in all 3 categories.
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15 minutes ago, Booch said:
I know whos those are...what about knock downs...tackles for losses..who will sustain...hmmm...lemme see
Hughes....2018 13 sacks after 10 games...rest year...2,,Tackles..27...rest year...9
Hughes 2017 8 sacks after 10 games..rest of year...2....
seems like a guy who ise non factor after mid point...as he did nothing in playoffs...wouldn't have even knew he dressed truth be told
Jefferson...in keeping with your comparison
2018 5 sacks after 10 games..rest year 6...Tackles 15...rest year 27
2017 6 sacks first 10 games..rest of year 3...tackles 23...rest of year 21
So yeah...when awards are awarded at years end...not midpoint history shows Jefferson is "more valuable" as he doesn't fade away to being insignificant
Hughes is already dropping off and if not for his 10 tackle game versus BC would have similar stats...generally too a DE with lots of tackles means he gets ran at more on his side..and possibly is in chase mode chasing down someone who git the edge
Who is saying that Jefferson isn't a good player? I just don't get the part where you have to hate Hughes to make Jefferson look better. If Willie puts up the numbers then he deserves his 215k I guess and will get considered for the award. Your Jefferson stats are not accurate that you have posted also, you have them a bit padded to make your argument stronger
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2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
he had a great start last year too and faded, which I believe is the point here. What you do in the summer in the CFL really doesn't matter, what matters is how you do in the fall. A guy like Jefferson started slow and has been heating up.
I agree with everything you have said. Now, will he fade this year, I don't know, he is getting older so its possible. Willie is heating up last couple games, will he keep it going? guess we will see.
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4 minutes ago, Booch said:
he has picked up the bulk of his stats for the year now...like the last 2...will be all downhill from here on in...history has a weird thing about repeating itself
30 tackles, 10 sacks and 4 forced fumbles, 11 tackles, 8 sacks and 5 forced fumbles. I'll let you guess whose numbers are whose. You can also guess who has played one less game than the other too. Loosen up the blue goggles, Hughes is having a good year. I see you guys signed a qb
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1 minute ago, Floyd said:
I'd say best DEF players in the league right now are Hughes, Jefferson, Moncrief, Lawrence, Roberson, Rose, Muamba and surprisingly Cory Greenwood
Greenwood is a Canadian and will go over 100 tackles. He will get serious consideration. Hughes has been very good and is the front runner at the mid way point with out question
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3 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said:
That's the difference of a good head coach does.
3 hours ago, Booch said:Willie doesnt act like a fool like last year..it was the culture there..I used to think it was Carter
But watching the team the players who drive the doucher look at me bus are Gainey..Edem..Purifoy and Marshall..total me me guys and ones who have a hard time handling acting like u been there pros
That wasn't him talking to his hands last week? Same guy. As I said fans perspective
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3 hours ago, GCJenks said:
I don’t deny I was a Willie hater last year, likely expressed some is the sentiment you describe.
Let’s look at it as what else changed this year? Oh yeah, he’s not playing for an absolute ****** bag and is playing for a total pro so he acts like a total pro.
A real good shot at Defensive player of the year if he keeps this level of play up.
Its a fans perspective. Willie is a guy you don't like playing against. He is dam good. Classy quite often he isn't though, and I thought the banjo thing was in poor class last year. But who cares, he gets paid to make plays and he does. His numbers aren't even close to be considered for defensive player of the year.
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9 hours ago, NorthernSkunk said:
The least you could do is ask them what they are afraid of.
First of all the least I could do implies I owe you something which I don't. Secondly, pretty sure no one is scared of you or your posts
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6 hours ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:
Willie's going to steal the ******* thing and prance around Mosaic with it!
Willie is a bit of a prancer, that's concerning. Funny what a year does. Last year he was a no class piece of garbage playing the banjo at the banjo bowl. I should bump that thread so we can all enjoy the comments about him and how no one here would want him and the Bombers have too much class to have him on team etc..
1 hour ago, Zontar said:It's grade school and makes the team look ridiculous. More importantly it makes the league look cheesey. Grow up and act like professionals.
Thanks Simoni for your input about being professional
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4 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said:
You are insane if you think there as many rude and ignorant posters here as what riderfans has. Tell them to let me back in over there and I'll start a post and show you who they are.
I don't run the site, I have no say in who posts and who doesn't. Quick side note, you mentioned something about wife being not well, I really hope that goes well for you. Straight up man. My wife is my best friend and the absolute center of my world. I couldn't even imagine to pretend to know how that would feel.
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6 hours ago, 17to85 said:
Half of the thread on riderfans is them bitching about bomber fans and acting superior. So classic riderfans stuff I suppose. God do I want streveler to RIP that team a new ******* on Sunday.
So basically the same as here? Especially from you. Anyone who disagrees with you is a idiot? I'll never understand why fans go read the other site and then talk about it on the other. Sign up and say your piece. I get venom here but I show up and take it. I don't hide from it.
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18 hours ago, Zontar said:
Devils Advocate.
If you're the league why would you suspend one of your marquee players for the highest rated game of the the most important non playoff weekend of games . Could this suspension have not waited ?
Its actually pathetic how far you go to take shots at the Riders. He failed the test a month and half ago
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17 minutes ago, Booch said:
you kind of made the obvious statement in that do you really think Harris is that dumb?...like really?...and also...what football player with any IQ starts a cycle mid season..or even in season.??...when juicing your wind is basically non existent not to mention sky high blood pressure...you don't play pro ball on the sauce...you do it off season...much akin to Thiggy getting caught in off season
I am mostly wrong on Turdfans....according to..turdfans..lol
And doesnt disagreeing there equate to same thiing...and a banning because the thin skin can't take facts and truth???
Thigpen tested positive in November after our playoff game against Toronto so likely he was on it all year and was rolling the dice around piss tests on not getting caught. And when did I say Harris was dumb? If starting a cycle mid season is dumb, wouldn't it be more likely he has been on it the whole time? I have nothing else to add to the discussion other than the opinion I have stated so I will bow out and read comments and let others carry the discussion on from here. Safe travels to anyone coming out to Regina
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3 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:
Now you're getting pissy cause the HC wants to back his guy? SHOCKING...HC BELIEVES HIS PLAYER....OMG...HOW COULD HE!?! Have you not been paying attention to Oshea these past few years? He will 100% never throw a player under the bus, regardless of the situation. It's just not what he does. GTF over it.
Pissy?? LOL, not even close. I am glad its not us this time, we have had our share of **** shows and will again.
My thoughts too. There has to be a limit to what the body can take in regards to supplements. Sooo why teams aren't going "hey, these are what you can take, etc etc etc...and this is how much you can take, Have at'er!" I just don't get it. I mean there's always going to be the guys looking for an edge. But why teams don't try to get in front of that I haven't ever understood.Totally agree
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6 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
so you are just choosing to argue with someone who professes to know that world? That is the height of ignorance.
Now I dunno whether or not Harris is telling the truth or not, we have all heard the "I didn't know, must be my supplements!" excuse before enough times to be immediately doubtful, however if you read Booch without any biases what he says can make sense. Again I ain't passing any judgements because I know that I don't know enough to form an opinion one way or the other. But I do know that arguing with someone who does know enough is pretty foolish.
I said I didn't know about it and don't really care to. I guess if you are capable of getting past this elephant sized straw man you guys have going here and get back to the facts. Piss test is positive for banned substance. Booch definitely knows his football even though we argue sometimes, its mostly because he is wrong and doesn't want to admit it. If he knows this much about this, we can probably make somewhat of a safe assumption that current players probably do too, or at least a fair few of them, couldn't we? Along that line, we can probably make a bit of a assumption that they should know better than to take anything without the team being on the up and up with it. I find it also funny that disagreeing around here equates to ignorance, stupidity. If you disagree then present you position on it and let the discussion continue on its way.
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6 minutes ago, Booch said:
Thigpen btw was a totally different situation...he got caught with it full blown in his system and couldn't dispute it...so no **** he tool it like a man..had no choice...and it was a very mainstream drug that is rampant in sports..especially football...not some old school Golds Gym glory days bulking drug...like gimme a break
But the haters are gonna hate regardless....have a look on the internet as I am sure they have it in the flatlands and research the amount of Supplements that have been discovered to have banned stuff in them..not listed on the label...you'de be shocked
OK, just curious. Because he only had a small amount of a banned substance its not as bad? The league should look at it differently because its Andrew Harris and not Marcus Thigpen? I get the urge to defend a player on your team, that's what we do sometimes as fans. I don't know the steroid world and frankly don't want to either. Its cheating and you know that. I get it that lots of players do it. Probably several Rider players doing it right now, how would I know. BUT, as a community owned team and massive supporter of minor football in the province, I fully expect my team to be out front of this from day one. The first statement from Chris Jones and the Riders was the team was disappointed with Marcus and would work closely with the league, bla bla bla, its sure as hell wasn't we know him so well and he would never do that. Every player says they don't know how it happened etc, that's how these things go every time. As far as the 10 days later test, well IMHO they suspected something otherwise they wouldn't have randomly out of no where came back and tested him 10 days later. Its sure looks like what ever they suspected was bang on too doesn't it? I am a big fan of Harris, I really am, but this looks bad no matter how it happened. I've always wondered why athletes have to be shoving pills in their mouth everyday just to play a game they are supposed to be good at to begin with. If I am a cfl coach today I am telling my players don't take a friggin thing that hasn't been cleared by the team doctor. Simple as that. Could have been a accident but it doesn't matter, piss tests don't lie. In my job I have been involved in a more than I can count. I have never failed one ever, I don't do drugs so it doesn't matter to me when it is. I know who will fail just by how mad they are that they are getting tested, or the classic they are picking on me defense.
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46 minutes ago, Geebrr said:
Thigpen is still on their roster so I guess they are fine with it.
I am so wanting to make some Eric Tillman and Trevis Smith comments
Thigpen stood up and took it like a man. Said he was sorry he let the team and the fans down. He is a shadow of his former self now and won't be in the league next year. There is no fountain of youth. People don't get stronger and put up better numbers when they get older, they just don't. Who expects the Bombers to cut Harris?? No one. Guys test positive numerous times every season in the league and stay with their team after wards. Don't make this about the Riders, has nothing to do with us. Much respect to those of you looking at this for what it is. I am a big fan of Harris, always have been. He cheated and got caught, simple as that. There is no mistake here, no sugar coating this
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4 hours ago, MOBomberFan said:
After leaving my office job in 2015 I decided to grow my hair out for cancer care. One last hurrah before it all falls out. Kept it going without so much as a trim til December 2018. In the end it was enough for 2 donations!
Good for you man. That's a nice thing to do
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1 hour ago, Goalie said:
I feel Bond is being overrated by people. Hes done a whole lot of nothing since moving on.
I was surprised how slow he was when he was in camp with us. Doesn't show quite as much heading straight up field in run blocking, but in pass protection he was and is a pylon
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19 minutes ago, trueBlue83 said:
kinda surprised no one has brought up Drew Tate. Didn't he get signed late last season by the Riders? I'm sure he'd be open to returning!
Coaching in BC I believe
Andrew Harris suspended for 2 games
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I didn't mean to sound rude, I read it after and it sounded worse than I intended. In any event I don't know anything about it. I have been banned and was sent a email that told me exactly why. I have been warned here more than once and received a email and was told exactly why.