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There was so much that could have been done to avoid it, but at this point I’m afraid you may be right. The core of the team was alower to all age out at the same time and coaching/management have made too many boneheaded decisions over the past 2+ years. Out of the guys we currently have, who can you rebuild/reload a team around starting in 26? QB- Zach is 37, Strev is pretty much done. We have no idea about Wilson but Inhave my doubts, no idea about Artopeous. No idea if Elgersma will ever come here. RB- Brady is still in his prime. Peterson is a solid backup. We’re pretty good here WR- Demski is playing very well but getting up there in age age, and pretty beat up, probably doesn’t have a lot of years left. Pokey is a keeper, Clercius is a keeper. Wheatfall is solid but not special. Everyone else is borderline useless. OL- Wallace with some seasoning will be a keeper, Bryant is old. Vanterpool and Randolph are keepers. DL- Willie is on the downside of his career, though he’s one of my all Time favourite Bombers and a surefire HOFer. Vaughters is washed. Woods needs to start a number of games to see if he’s worth keeping. Adams is decent but not great. Thomas and Kornelson, we all know. LB- Woodbey is promising but we’ve only seen 1 game. The rookie Canadians are promising but completely untested. Tony Jones is mediocre, Wilson is old. J. Jones never sees the field but should be a keeper based off how he played for TO. DB- Griffin is a keeper. Allen is a maybe. Vaval is a maybe. Holm is pushing 30. Nichols is aging rapidly. Others are mediocre at best. ST- Sergio is very good, Sheehan has improved. Leaves us with maybe 7-8 skill players worth moving forward with on both sides combined. 2-3 OL. 1-2 DL. I’m pretty sure we need a full scale rebuild at this point, the cupboards are pretty bare.

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Is that what he said? Ridiculous, but not surprising. There needs to be a point where the coaches have to step in and save a player from himself. A player wanting to play through a particular injury, does not absolve you of any responsibility. Like you said…. Just sickening.

Lol.... said as if the Bombers haven't played in the grey cup 5 straight years. Oh man they are a special group aren't they...

If this were true there'd be some ******* in green in a picture at field level with a sound level meter and it would be all over social media.

I loved this era of blue bomber football, I appreciate all the good memories in the past decade but I really think it’s time to clean house this off season. I want a head coach who cares about player safety, not someone who thinks it’s heroic to play injured, it’s cost us a lot of big games, and now potentially Schoens career.

I'm no doctor or anything like that, but if he tore it playing Calgary, why in the world would they put him out there even if he is wearing a brace. Kind like putting Zach out when his throwing hand is bleeding.

It's funny cause it's just as loud when it's half empty compared to when they have a sell out.

well...who makes the roster?? The fact he tore a just repaired ACL ....right there you shut him down....Sure you can brace it but can make things a lot worse....and just delays the surgery....wont heal without it....just incompatence top to bottom...even if the player "agreed" to try....you just dont do that...especially woth a marquee player I like how Osh said he "tried to play though it" orwas he forced...influenced with bad advice?....just sickening

haha rider fans saying the toilet bowl is louder than IGF now too. ****ing delusional group. My god

I'm livid we have apparently ruined Schoen and his career. Who decided to play a guy on a torn ACL. That is malpractice.

you cant rehab a torn acl....need to surgically repair it, and who knows if it also cause cartilage damage too You can rehab and actually play thru/with and mcl one tho...but wasnt the case here...right after the CGY he should have been shut down for yr and scheduled forsurgery...gross incompatnce...malpractice...call it what you want Miller must or should be seriously considering waxing this group out the door...like when is enough stupidity enough? well...15.5 games actually...so all of the season he wont be ableto even make a try again until 2027...if he lucky

lol considering the Rider players themselves were constantly talking (To the media no less) about how fans would always say "I don't care what your record is, just beat WPG on Labour Day"...I'm not sure that guy should be posting about mid season grey cups.

sadly...I can doubt it....I think thats last we seen of him...Can thank Osh on that one too....He put him on roster I agree....been there....and re-injuring a new rebuild before it actually rebuilt...bad news... you know who made the decision....D'oSHE TOP TEIR LEADERSHIPEH? There a reason we lost last 3 in row....

And also missed most of last year for the exact same injury.

In that situation, no. You play the play as if they're going for it. That could have been a huge moment had they gone for it. I'm not faulting the coaches for that at all. Nichols got a **** bounce from the ball. They snapped the ball in shotgun formation on 2nd and inches....that was surprising....

we ruined him....Injuring a repaired knee after it hasn't fully healed...bad news...he wont even be seen next yr....consider him done...I cant see a 2027 comeback being anything other than meh. Osh needs to go....Couture and his staff too have my doubts about...consider who we rostered the last few yrs in the playoffs We effectively this yr more or less took ourselves outta both the Lawler and Schoen sweepstakes...on a grey cup year...and passed on Rhymes..Coxie...Lewis...Dunbar...among others Just the fact he re-injured it...and we knew it and played him anyway....sickens me....I can see a first time and nottotal tear, as you can brace it and somewhat play on it...tho not ideal for a reciever...but none the less...what a epic mistreatment of a player If you recall as soon as I heard he was braced up in practice....i said bad news..red flags...he gonna be done sooner than later...low and behold Man it not even my knee and I furious about this.... Ritchie tho was a an actual coach...and his guys were his Achilles heel...but he also rostered the best available for most part....until they had next to know tread....big difference....better coach... Saw with Logan too....clearly not ready....Dude didnt just lose it over an off-season And also....I wouldnt even call it loyalty in a lot of instances....some yeah..alot stupidity....and a lot playing to his fav's...

So this means we hung our two point attempt to tie the game on a guy with a blown ACL? Like blown earlier, but also reportedly re-injured in the same game? What the **** is wrong with our coaches? Have they learned nothing from the past Grey Cups?

Feel terrible for Schoen and whoever made the call to play him with that injury should feel terrible as well. Schoen's career shouldn't be the only down the drain - that's inexcusable.

I am shocked! Not really.

I’d like to know why the team dr/medical staff expected rehab without surgery to be good enough for Schoen to play again this season. I get rehab alone can work for an average joe, but it seems crazy to trust it for a guy who runs and gets hit for a living.

JMO, I personally think Schoen is done for his career. Two ACL tears in the same knee (I think) and getting near 30. I supported his signing and he was OK health wise until the Calgary game. Bringing him back for the LDC gave us the worst possible outcome.

Sucks about Schoen. Maybe in two years he can attempt a come back at a much reduced salary?

Sad eh Said right from day one...bad signing banking on him being one your guys tis yr.....maybe a late season add being on 6 game all yr and stull rehabbing, but banking on him being the "guy"...just dumb And....we may have just screwed his career permanently.....what a sad group we have pulling the strings We obviously rushed Logan back and tried to get him in as he was so not ready yet...guy is an explosive player...and he had none of that in those 2 games...afyer the first he should have been sat down....but nope We cut a guy....only to bring him back at DT when he wasn't even needed...again...just pathetic We watched in real time how 2 Bozo's can effectively kill a dynasty ..one of generational making and almost make the actual couple seasons of Championship play almost irrelevant really...mainly due to incompetence...stubbornness and total lack of vision and ability to sustain....and in pretty short order....the sooner we rid ourselves of them...the better as they show zero signs let alone ability to evolve 12 yrs is a long time...we had a nice lil run...caught a lil lightning in a bottle almost, but man....what a mess...and self inflicted at that You would think he may have...but O doubt it...A guy knows with that injurywhen you ready...and you wouldnt risk it...and really a team should never listen to the player....I have my doubts tho based on yrs of playing hurt guys.... Even in the Grey Cup...Schoen said he was shocked he was rostered and wasn't even really prepared....Thats all on dear leader sadly....Guys a moron