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True,...you can field a roster of all star calibre players but if they aren't accountable to each other, or they are toxic, you won't win many games when it counts. Coaches like Campbell and Chris Jones just see talent level and nothing else, where other coaches who develop culture, work ethic, and accountability and actually use it as part of an assessment of their roster tend to have much greater success.

That type of low accountability, toxic culture, seems to follow Rick Campbell around. Can't out-talent that.

Umbrella's aren't allowed but they will sell ponchos for tomorrow's game https://www.nhl.com/jets/info/whiteout/game-5?fbclid=IwY2xjawKRmvhleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHog_YeA2AjNnlhFCc6prdYHJF_iKyDqVb2HbuNDcs2td5iCY8hwkVgm6MMhR_aem_1OzhNoP4y6yQoRT3iGsRGw

Pretty much.

Agreed

You can tell when Helle is dialed in and when he's not. He tends to sit way too far back in his net and not be aggreesive. In G7 3rd period and into OT, we saw the MOP Helle show up. Through this series he's slowly lost that and gone back into his shell.

Las Vegas Raiders waive former Hamilton Tiger-Cats speedster Tyreik McAllister - 3DownNation I would like this guy in Bombers uniform. I dont think it would happen though. Former NFL DL Christian Covington blames lack of ‘self-accountability’ for B.C. Lions’ disappointing 2024 finish - 3DownNation Was this the same sentiment by Kongbo when he was with the Leos?

Well, I think you have to put some of that on scouting as well. Can't sign vets at every position to push guys so these young recruits have to do it. I don't care what camp you go to, in any sport, the challenger has to clearly beat the incumbent to earn that spot. So if we have some guys that seem to be on the roster just because, I have to wonder where was the guy who should have been pushing him out the door. I got no love for the fact guys like JT etc were getting far more snaps than they probably should have, but who was behind them on the depth chart to push them out? It becomes trickier when you add in ratio. I mean you have a list of several guys you say shouldn't have even been on the roster last year, honestly, name the player on our DC that was head and shoulders better? Could we have played musical chairs with our ratio...maybe...but at the end of the day we also have to consider STs as well. It's not as simple as putting out your best 53 players. You have to build a team, not just assemble talent. There are factors at play beyond player X is better or as good as player Y or let's rob Peter to pay Paul. If fans ran this team just based on what we know guys like Evan Holm or Kramdi who are absolute stud players now would have gotten the apple and a road map. Why? Because at the end of the day we think we know the whole picture, but we have access to only a very small % of the knowledge of what each player brings to the table in a team setting and what value a player may provide to the team that we will never lay eyes on, or hear about. So while a guy may seem like dead weight to us fans, he may provide a massive amount of value to our team in ways that we just don't see. Older guys that bring value to the room, are excellent in the film room and willing to bring the younger guys up to snuff and teach them the right way to prepare, and then the young guys who may seem shaky at first but the coaches see the potential not just on game day but in every rep at every practice, and in every meeting. These are all things that add value to a TEAM. I would rather we build a TEAM, than assemble talent that doesn't work well together. Then we would be the Riders.

Except 9 goals in 5 games isn’t gonna get the job done. Oettinger let in the softest goal last night. Powerplay goals shouldn’t be going in? Taking dumb penalties that lead to goals is on the goalie now? Jets scored 4 goals in 1 game. That means 5 in the other 4. You ARE expecting shutouts to win. That’s impossible. 5 goals in 4 games and ppl blaming the tender. Man. Honestly. What can he do. Our only win this series is a shutout.

true....too bad we as a team don't use that mindset....if that was the mind set on other positions....as honestly several guys the last several season's have secured a roster spot on nothing other than....well nothing lol

Shea was worth a look. Some young QBs have that light bulb moment where the game slows down for them and they just get it. Look at Fajardo for instance, who went from PR level talent his first few years to being a starter....albeit not a good one...but still definitely at the very least a high end backup. Roll the dice on Shea and see if that light bulb has turned on, if not, apple and a road map. At the very least Shea pushes Strev and Wilson to make sure they have a top notch offseason of preparation. Nothing pointless about putting guys on the roster that are just there to push who you know will be on your roster in the end. Gotta keep everyone honest.

Didn't think Patterson was gonna stick around and last....was a pointless signing when you think about it. Pretty sure they wanted to get eyes on Strev in camp to just confirm he good to go, so we didnt have to go in to the start of season with 2 basically rookies behind ZC Wilson showed more than enough last yr to be developed and groomed behind ZC and Strev with big upside...Swapping him for Patterson would have been 2 steps backwards..as his upside has been met....and it's not pro starter ability

No. From Brandon, played QB through Grade 11, went to U of S.

When you outplay Dallas for most of 2 periods but your goaltender allows a softie, that's tough. No one that I know is expecting shutouts - just that goals like that one shouldn't be going in. If that happens next game, their chance of winning will go down significantly.

Hamilton cut him? U of M kid, right?

Impossible to win when you need a shutout. 8 goals plus 1 empty net = 9 goals in 5 games. Ppl expecting shutouts are insane. Jets averaging less than 2 goals a game. Kind of impossible to win. To win we need a shutout cuz we can’t score.

I hope we are bringing in Dayton Black. Even if he isn't good enough to win a starting spot, nice depth and type of guy who is athletic enough to be quite useful as a 6th or 7th guy.

Shots from the high slot have been very challenging for Helle this whole playoffs.

American receiver Scott Brown, American offensive lineman Austin Euler, defensive lineman Ryan Johnson, defensive backs Patrick Rogers and Marcus Hillman, and American kicker Andrew Mevis.

Who are the others?

I hoped this would be the move. 5 + the cis kid is too many arms in camp to have 2 QBs ready for game 1 and 2. Likely means either chase is doing really well, or another qb is inbound and he’s next on the slicer.

This is getting so frustrating we manage to beat the demon that keeps us from winning more than one game round one but now we have a new demon on our hands....if only they had won game one of this series

Shea Patterson among latest cuts. No other really notable name.

I just don't understand how this is the best road team in the NHL and yet they can't win a f****** playoff game on the road. It's abysmal Where is the f****** offense? Why does the power play suck??? Like I know everyone is banged up now but like show some effort and heart... Get the greasy goals. Not everything's going to be a skill play. And today's game isn't solely on Hellesuck. I definitely think he should have had that first goal... Even Arneil says it should have been stopped. But when you give up a soft goal like that, it totally affects the team's psyche. You play nervous and tight because you're concerned that another s***** goal is going to be let in. I just don't understand why this team is struggling as bad as they are. Dallas traded for Rantanen and Granlund and they have single-handedly destroyed the Jets this series.

We got them right where we want them!