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dline has needed help since we lost Kongbo...Stove....Nevis...Sayles...even Hansen and we made it worse by low balling Jeffcoat into retirement....injury issues?...I call b.s on that as we continued to sign/play BA...Biggie...Grant (until we effed that up) Hallett...and others who were always walking wounded and missed chunks...Only reason why the other Hallett is gone is because he physically cant do it anymore We of recent have some more than capable guys....but they play second fiddle to Osh's fav's....Even the strange decision to not re-up Fox and Garbutt was flawed and short sited as both playing well in Ham and would definately be helping here....likely tho they wanted to try free agency and actually get real playtime elsewhere...others have left here for that reason...a couple I also know alomost did but got talked into staying by some vets here Guys who know they can play...wanna play....you can be the best team guy in the world but when you have to consistently take a back seat to an inferior coach's preference....you can only stomach it for so long

Ford was going to his brother's team...and out priced himself any way...so out of our hands there Biggie...was hurt...and not gonna be ready....if not hurt....he was gonna be here...if Osh continues to roster Thomas..kolo..Scmeck....Wilson...Scmeck....you know damn well Biggie would have been here BA...is maybe the only one we chose to move on from...did we low ball him tho like we did Jeffcoat?...quite possible...who knows 100 percent that was taken out of his hands....he wont be playing next week either...or week after I bet...9 months out...for an aged player...at his position?...nahhhh....and if he does try that soon....gonna really tarnish the last memories fans will have of him

They didn't move on from Ford, he walked away. Biggie, I have no doubt, would still be here if he hadn't shredded his knee. He's still not healthy enough to play so that should have been a no brainer. I'll give you BA but let's not pretend they had some big wholesale change planned. Those 3 are also at positions where we have depth so we could roll with guys we already had - the D Line has needed help for a while but we haven't seen a whole lot of movement. It's also not just about moving on from older players, it's about how they are being used. Thomas has absolutely no business being a starter taking tons of reps but here we are. If he was being used sparingly as a backup, you'd see way less posts about him. As much as I love WJ, it's plain to see that he should not be on the field as much as he is.

But was that osh or did walters take that one out of coaches hands? Cause let's be honest, if biggie was under contract oshea would 100% be playing him.

Who is pointing out over and over again that MOS doesn’t move on from anybody? I’m confused. I haven’t seen that. And you laughing at the loyalty for certain players makes me think you may not be paying attention to what MOS has said about certain longstanding BB players.

Just to point out, there are the same folks over and over pointing out how Osh won't move on from anyone. This is not actually correct. Even just this past year we moved on from three major parts of the defense - Bighill, Alexander and Ford. The idea that they don't get rid of aging vets when they did not re-sign two guys who helped transform and start this era of success is completely overlooked. You can argue he didn't get rid of the right guys or enough players, and that's fine. But I laugh at the idea that Osh is too loyal to move on from guys like Jake Thomas when he's letting go of Adam Bighill. The reason Thomas is on the team, for instance, is that Osh views his performance differently than say someone else here. And that's fine! You can criticize him for that if you are unhappy with literally any player that is getting playing time. Looping back every discussion to the same issue (as if it's always just one thing) merely subtracts from the football discussion on the board.

if anything...learn from past losses....and why....and adjust/change things.......and not repeat it....continually.....easy concept most coaches grasp.....most

Only 60 per game? No negative point totals for the opposition? Lowered expectations, man.

Can't it just be 2022 regular season every year???

Well then .maybe the team should be perfect and win every game 60-0?

That's every thread. "This team, and all who run it, absolutely sucks and here's why" ad nauseum (or is it Add Nausea?)

Last game kyrie made 3 tackles, 2 on short yardage plays after first down yardage, 1 in the run game for a short gain. Jones made stops of 2 yards 3 times in the run game, leading to two punts and a 3rd and short. He made tackles after gains of 4 yards (first down), 9, 5(first) 3 (first) and 5 yards. That’s jones making the biggest contribution to run stops, but also frequently after a successful run. This is very comparable to what we’ve seen in each game this year.

Wilson makes the best decisions, is assignment sound, good in pass cover and a reliable tackler. Problem is he can’t get off the block of any one any more, and doesn’t have that explosiveness to close gap, lay a hit, or shoot a gap. He isn’t cooked like biggie, getting steam rolled by every rb in the hole. And he tends to get better and better. Which we really need him to do since we are married to him. The time it takes him to get back up to speed, he basically can’t afford an injury this year. Jones is hands down better in the box, he’s explosive and strong enough to make plays. His run instincts are good decision making mediocre and lost continually in coverage. Id rather play all small guys who can cover , rally to the ball, wrap and tackle than a guy who can’t cover.

So I've had a couple of trips on Winnipeg Transit's new Primary Transit system, and so far it's been going fine for me (it hasn't really effected me negatively) I get why some people have problems with it since their normal stops were being discontinued)

If that was his first game you can justify letting him go then.

Living in the past thread. The repeat stuff thread.

Wilson is by no means a liability and been one of our more steady guys....it's dependability....but I bet at a rotational role like Griffin...would help keep him clean from injury...and fresh

Maybe we should rename this to the "20-20 Hindsight thread" so everyone knows what it's really about.

Re Wilson, hes been our main stopper on the run, and is reading/anticipating plays I do like getting Allen in and Parker at corner

well I do have memories of Winnipeg having more than one Red Lobster Location in the 90s

No Red Lobster on Henderson, it was on Leila. Culvers is very meh. JJ is decent.

I’ll take mills

Was a tripping DB and .2 seconds away from 3/4. stupid birds

I ******* wish...

Osh won't play new hungry young talent....let alone give them a chance....even if they are clearly better....Thats the issue....I also think he values some things to a greater degree over actual talent/ability/upside...Which can be fine when you trying to re-set your foundation...our's is set and it's they way we do things now....as long as you have a few vets to continue to bring it along you are fine....save for a few outlander type players like that Marshall db who was in Sask...and a few others it's pretty easy to figure out the bad apples...and even then the room will get guys in line regardless...we need to recruit...sign and play the best talent...not just the "character" guys..... yup...even in 2022 a few spots could have been already transitioned and have the roster that much further ahead we brought in a lot of talent....but we kept a lot that shopuld have been dumped Our WR recruiting was abysmall....retreads and guys that offered not much...Hall seemed to be the best new guy...and would be a good backup/compliment to Wheatfall for what he would offer but we cut him and kept a guy from last yr who wasnt good enough...and still isnt...and will never be Imagine how or defence would look and be like with Ayers and Jonathon Jones....Griffin at Sam....Parker at corner...Allen at safety and have Woodbey as a DA...all working and gelling together, with talent...major athleticism...and hungry youth...with WJ and Vaughters being spelled by Person and Bailey.....with Lawson...Adams....Woods (when healthy) as your main set? Puts Vaughters/WJ....Ayers...Thomas...Korn...Kramdi...T.Jones main set to shame...I'd have Wilson as a rotation guy as ell.....and we can easily do that too....but we choose not to