time for a new thread for a new season that begins today. Canada Day. Free Agent Frenzy. 

Will the Jets trade Trouba?  Will they resign Scheif to an 8 year deal?  

Will Boston, as heavily rumoured, offer sheet Trouba?  What about the rumours of the Jets in a three way deal with Edmonton and Avs?

Stay tuned! 

22 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Yes but as a few posters here regularly indicate we are in a rebuilding/development mode with no realistic goal of making the playoffs.

Unlike the Blues, Habs and Bruins who consider themselves contenders this year. Therefore expectations of the coaching staff is different.

btw, I can't stand this mindset

I don't see how it's not a realistic goal unless a man truly believes that Maurice has gotten 100% out of this team.  Because they are still "close" to a playoff spot.  A top coach could have put this team in the playoffs, this things I believe.

Edited February 15, 20178 yr by Atomic

 

What was he thinking?

 

1 hour ago, Atomic said:

I don't see how it's not a realistic goal unless a man truly believes that Maurice has gotten 100% out of this team.  Because they are still "close" to a playoff spot.  A top coach could have put this team in the playoffs, this things I believe.

Agreed.

The first few years of failure under Noel were excused by a weak roster.

The last 2 seasons of failure under Maurice are excused because the team is young.

What's the excuse when & if this continues to next season?

1 hour ago, Rich said:

What was he thinking?

That the cameras were off.

2 hours ago, Rich said:

What was he thinking?

What an idiot.  I have no patience for things like that.  Should be zero tolerance, 100-game ban for first offence, lifetime for second.  That's not an accident, that's not something that just happens during the course of a game.  That's blatant, physical abuse of an official and it should be dealt with as such.

16 minutes ago, Atomic said:

What an idiot.  I have no patience for things like that.  Should be zero tolerance, 100-game ban for first offence, lifetime for second.  That's not an accident, that's not something that just happens during the course of a game.  That's blatant, physical abuse of an official and it should be dealt with as such.

Cant even argue heat of the moment since there is a very long (under the circumstances) period between the face off and his decision to slash the official.  He stared at him, thought about it and then did it.  Is it automatic ten games and thats it or is that pending the NHL dishing out further games?  I agree with you, I'd go at least the rest of this season and playoffs.

20 games good start.

You guys are crazy. 10 games are sufficient for Vermette. It was a really stupid thing to do, but it wasn't like he was trying to break his leg. 

It all comes down to respect or rather lack of respect. 

22 minutes ago, sweep the leg said:

You guys are crazy. 10 games are sufficient for Vermette. It was a really stupid thing to do, but it wasn't like he was trying to break his leg. 

It's inexcusable!  It doesn't matter what he did.  The refs aren't players in the game.  You can't touch them.  Period.  10 games?  That's nothing.  That's absolutely nothing.  He didn't make a mistake here.  He made an intentional decision to attack a referee.  That's garbage.  A strong message needs to be sent, and ten games is not a strong message.  That's saying "Yeah, if you're really mad, go ahead and slash the ref."

Nyquist gets 6 games for his high stick on Jared Spurgeon.

Interesting to see how they handle this, considering the Nyquist suspension is still pending and it really sends the wrong kind of message if 1/100th of the violence is given a stiffer punishment just because it's against a zebra.

Just now, Rich said:

Nyquist gets 6 games for his high stick on Jared Spurgeon.

Wow.

Horrible.

Vermette get an automatic 10 game suspension which he can appeal, so it might be less.

Edited February 15, 20178 yr by bustamente

Just now, Mike said:

Interesting to see how they handle this, considering the Nyquist suspension is still pending and it really sends the wrong kind of message if 1/100th of the violence is given a stiffer punishment just because it's against a zebra.

BS.  It should be 100 times worse if it's against an official.

17 minutes ago, Atomic said:

It's inexcusable!  It doesn't matter what he did.  The refs aren't players in the game.  You can't touch them.  Period.  10 games?  That's nothing.  That's absolutely nothing.  He didn't make a mistake here.  He made an intentional decision to attack a referee.  That's garbage.  A strong message needs to be sent, and ten games is not a strong message.  That's saying "Yeah, if you're really mad, go ahead and slash the ref."

This may be an overreaction...

Of course it matters what he did. If he dropped his gloves and kicked the **** out of him, I would agree he should get a massive suspension. He gave him a smack on the calves with his stick. It's 10 games for disrespect rather than an "attack" on a referee.

Edited February 15, 20178 yr by sweep the leg

Maybe he had a concussion...

has anyone else heard this story? the late Red Wings owner was quite classy

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/15/us/mike-ilitch-rosa-parks-trnd/index.html

barely touched the guy.

stern talking to should  suffice. (kidding)

Slashing a ref. definitely a short circuit there of some sort.

8 hours ago, Jimmy Pop said:

Agreed.

The first few years of failure under Noel were excused by a weak roster.

The last 2 seasons of failure under Maurice are excused because the team is young.

What's the excuse when & if this continues to next season?

Won't matter as Chevy & Maurice will have long term deals by then.

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15 hours ago, sweep the leg said:

This may be an overreaction...

Of course it matters what he did. If he dropped his gloves and kicked the **** out of him, I would agree he should get a massive suspension. He gave him a smack on the calves with his stick. It's 10 games for disrespect rather than an "attack" on a referee.

You just don't get it.  You have no respect for referees and the job they do.  If he dropped the gloves and beat up a ref, forget a suspension, he should be charged with assault.

The refs are not players in the game.  They are off-limits.  Period.

13 minutes ago, Atomic said:

You just don't get it

We also get that it wouldn't even be a penalty if he did that to a player.  If a player got tapped like that and complained to a ref the ref would laugh at him.  So quantifying the incident isn't as easy as it might appear considering the only reason it is an "incident" is because it involved a ref.  The players tap each other on the butts with their sticks harder than that when their leaving the ice from warm-ups.

I would have liked to see a longer suspension because a) meaningful precedent has to be set at some point, and b ) the toothless CBA in place means it will be appealed and cut down to 5 games by some arbitrator.

The reactions of some people in the video are interesting - the ref takes a moment of disbelief over what happens before "yeah, he just intentionally hit me with his stick!" settles in as the conclusion and the hand goes up; Getzlaf standing by the box waiting on an explanation and the chance to argue the call seems to take a while to understand the call because what he's being told doesn't make any sense (rightfully); Carlyle wants to yell at the refs because that's how he's wired but he realizes he can't, so he just doesn't know what to do with that emotion.

I don't usually wade into pure conjecture, but I'd hazard a guess that such an unhinged reaction from Vermette could mean that things aren't right on the homefront.  Before you snap you usually have to get wound pretty tight.