Noeller Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Isn't Teravainen almost 30, too? Big, big difference.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Noeller said: Isn't Teravainen almost 30, too? Big, big difference.... Well he's closer to 30 than to 10 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 quite a bit older than Drouin is the point.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, Noeller said: quite a bit older than Drouin is the point.... six months older. They are both 21. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teuvo_Teräväinen Edited June 15, 2016 by kelownabomberfan Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 23 minutes ago, Ducky said: I think Carle is the next salary dump trade we see. Judging by that trade, Lemieux and Petan are too much for Drouin. The Bolts are in tough with their upcoming RFAs this year. They have 6 or 7 RFAs that need to be dealt with this off-season. Kucerov and Killorn will want serious raises. Then there's Stamkos. I wouldn't re-sign him if I were them (I would for about 6.5m per x 6 years)) but I think Yzerman will go after him hard. If Yzerman had any intention to go hard after Stamkos, he would have made a top line offer while he has exclusive negotiating rights. Either Yzerman isn’t coming up to what Stamkos wants or Stamkos wants to leave. Is it possible that Stamkos over values what he can get with where the cap is in the NHL today? Possible. But he won’t find that out until Free Agency. At which point it will likely be too late to make this kind of deal with another team because their cap space will be going to free agents. So Yzerman would have to gamble away Drouin now to free up cap space so he has a chance of signing Stamkos in free agency, and if his gamble fails and he doesn’t get Stamkos, then he got under market value on Drouin for no good reason. He has $19M in cap space right now. Decide which RFAs you want long term, bridge the others to work around Carle’s salary for 2 years, and trade whoever is left and get full market value in picks and prospects on your return to compliment your roster over the upcoming years instead of having to take a discount to dump salary. That would seem a much more reasonable line of thinking when you aren’t painted in a corner and have to dump salary. Quote I thought this was one of my least far-fetched trades yet... Put up a poll on HFBoards and get the hockey community's opinion at large. Better yet, put it up in Tampa Bay section. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Teravainen is a good player... not one the Jets would have needed Halfway between Petan and Drouin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Id like to have Teravainen and would have been thrilled if the Jets had made that trade. But never ever would Tampa trade Drouin for Teravainen. Lemieux and Petan might be worth Drouin...in three years. We dont know what we have there. We have a junior player and an AHL'er who showed nothing in his short sting in the NHL. If you want Drouin, start with the #2 pick and move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I thought Petan looked good on his second "sting" when he was playing on a line with Armia and Copp. That line had a lot of jump. Actually my favorite part of the season was the post-Ladd segment when ESW really started to take off, and the other lines all started contributing. Goalie and The Unknown Poster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Hey let's sign Ladd and then trade him for Drouin. kelownabomberfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 3 hours ago, Rich said: If Yzerman had any intention to go hard after Stamkos, he would have made a top line offer while he has exclusive negotiating rights. Either Yzerman isn’t coming up to what Stamkos wants or Stamkos wants to leave. Is it possible that Stamkos over values what he can get with where the cap is in the NHL today? Possible. But he won’t find that out until Free Agency. At which point it will likely be too late to make this kind of deal with another team because their cap space will be going to free agents. So Yzerman would have to gamble away Drouin now to free up cap space so he has a chance of signing Stamkos in free agency, and if his gamble fails and he doesn’t get Stamkos, then he got under market value on Drouin for no good reason. He has $19M in cap space right now. Decide which RFAs you want long term, bridge the others to work around Carle’s salary for 2 years, and trade whoever is left and get full market value in picks and prospects on your return to compliment your roster over the upcoming years instead of having to take a discount to dump salary. That would seem a much more reasonable line of thinking when you aren’t painted in a corner and have to dump salary. Put up a poll on HFBoards and get the hockey community's opinion at large. Better yet, put it up in Tampa Bay section. the money they free up doesn't HAVE to go towards signing Stamkos but gives them leverage to keep RFAs and maybe sign someone like Okposo or someone in free agency. If they don't sign Stamkos and don't have Carle's contract as a burden, they can do a lot more with their roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ducky said: the money they free up doesn't HAVE to go towards signing Stamkos but gives them leverage to keep RFAs and maybe sign someone like Okposo or someone in free agency. If they don't sign Stamkos and don't have Carle's contract as a burden, they can do a lot more with their roster. So you want to trade a Grade A prospect with top line potential, who is making under a million dollars next year, to free up cap space to sign Okposo in free agency? Got it. Noeller, Goalie and sweep the leg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 and if i had suggested the Bickell trade u wud have said no way too....get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Here's my imaginary trade... Carle and Bishop to Calgary for TJ Brodie and Kylington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 14 hours ago, Floyd said: Here's my imaginary trade... Carle and Bishop to Calgary for TJ Brodie and Kylington Assuming Fleury is traded, I think he will end up in Calgary. Pens will be happy to take picks/prospects back b/c of their cap situation. Plus I think Calgary will prefer him b/c he's got a few years left on a fairly reasonable deal. Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) I think Dallas would be interested too but they'd have to unload at least one of their goalies and the Pens wont be taking that salary back. Just clicking around some Fleury speculation I see the Jets as an outside possibility. I wouldnt hate that at all. But not likely. As for Calgary, the fans want the #6 pick which wont happen unless the Pens throw in more. But I've seen Frolik speculated since the Pens were interested in him. That would be a solid return for the Pens who already have depth at forward although they should probably get some D help. Edited June 16, 2016 by The Unknown Poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Calgary has apparently contacted the Pens about Fleury, Pitt would like to keep him but the feeling is that Fleury will be moved and the though is with Calgary, they have 2 2nd round picks and that should be enough to get Fleury. Fleury isn't getting 6th overall, not a chance. Calgary isn't trading 6th overall either... It's gonna be Fleury to Calgary for both of Calgarys 2nd round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Dallas' problem is that they don't really have anyone that is marketable... their whole trade market is either old or bad contracts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Seguin. Benn. Spezza probably disagree. Dallas traded rights to goligoski today tho to Arizona for a 5th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 6 hours ago, Goalie said: Seguin. Benn. Spezza probably disagree. Dallas traded rights to goligoski today tho to Arizona for a 5th round pick. Benn and Sequin are not trade bait. Now try and think of someone that you'd package with Niemi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 I couldn't because I don't think teams need a guy like Niemi but for the sake of discussion .... nichuskun Honka Lindell come to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Goligoski is a good addition for Arizona, who have something like $18 million to spend just to reach the salary floor. They could offer sheet Trouba! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) trade of the day... Barzal and Pulock and Hamonic for Myers and Lemieux and Lowry and next year's 1st rounder (lottery protected) or Myers and Perreault and Lowry and Lemieux and 3rd round pick in 2017... Laine Scheif Wheeler Petan Little Armia Connor Barzal Ehlers Burmi Copp Dano Trouba-Buff Enstrom-Hamonic Morrissey-Pulock Pavs Hutch Edited June 18, 2016 by Ducky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Nyi laugh and hang up FrostyWinnipeg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 add Staf and Stu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Hamonic rescinded his trade request. It's a non-starter. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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