Ducky Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Buff is an elite D man and to suggest otherwise shows your (lack of) knowledge of hockey. Name me another Jet that can take over and control a game. He is easily worth 35 for 5 years....easily. I'd go as high as 37.5. Every team in the league would want him if they had the cap space. You guys that say Buff is a luxury are so far gone you would be called a flyer in stats. The team is better with him in the lineup...fact. Also, the next time we need a forward because of injuries, who are we gonna play without Buff. Ladd is the captain but Buff is the leader, no questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Yes the team is better with him in the line up. Which does Not discount anyone's opinion that he's a luxury. Take a deep breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 you should look up the meaning of luxury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Earth_Mud Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Yes the team is better with him in the line up. Which does Not discount anyone's opinion that he's a luxury. Take a deep breath. LOL What do you mean hes a luxury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 He was being heralded as a Norris trophy winner at one point.. You don't get mentioned in that class of players unless you have showcased as one of the better or best at defense. Yeah right. Erik Karlsson won the Norris in 2012, and he was a train wreck defensively. Mike Green has been nominated for it, and he's even worse defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 He was being heralded as a norris trophy winner by Jets fans. Winning the Norris means nothing, it doesn't mean you are the best D man. It means you are good at putting up points really, Playing D doesn't mean a thing to Norris trophy candidates. D men play D first, buff does not do that. When he wants to be someone said? You realize that is like once every 5 games probably. It would be nice to keep Buff but, not sure why anyone is pretending he's one of the top 10 D men in the league, he's not. Toby is actually better, Myers might be too, Trouba is too, They play D first mostly, That's what you want in your D men. He's not Doughty, He's not Subban, He's not Letang even, He's not OEL in Arizona, He's not really an elite D man, he's a good d man but... he's not elite. lol at questioning peoples hockey knowledge because someone don't think Buff is elite, He's not, what makes anyone think he is? Elite D men don't take games off at a time, Elite d man don't play good D only when they feel like doing it, they do it all the time. People do know what the D stands for right? But if he is elite, then he should get 9 million a year cuz that's what the doughtys and subbans get. That's too rich for the Jets blood i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Now that you made me hate Byfuglien because he is not elite...only e-lite, I'll shift my attention to Stu-art, who had a really strong game the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Earth_Mud Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Buff is an elite hockey player without any doubt. Is he an elite D man? Probably not but hes above average. Is he an elite forward? Probably not but hes above average. Can he play forward or D without missing a beat? Id say yes. IMO hes an elite hockey player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Goalie's rants are always entertaining. New_Earth_Mud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Buff is an elite hockey player without any doubt. Is he an elite D man? Probably not but hes above average. Is he an elite forward? Probably not but hes above average. Can he play forward or D without missing a beat? Id say yes. IMO hes an elite hockey player. I think the word you are trying to use is versatile.... He has the intangibles such as Frolik which makes him a solid asset to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 We wouldn't be close to a playoff team without Buff. At times, he put the team on his back & carried it. Not many players have the ability to do that. Anyone who says he's a luxury is daft. We can't go forward without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Earth_Mud Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Buff is an elite hockey player without any doubt. Is he an elite D man? Probably not but hes above average. Is he an elite forward? Probably not but hes above average. Can he play forward or D without missing a beat? Id say yes. IMO hes an elite hockey player. I think the word you are trying to use is versatile.... He has the intangibles such as Frolik which makes him a solid asset to have. Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Whatever we think on this board, the rest of the NHL seems to like him. Keeping Buff will mean a 5-7 year contract at $8.5-9 a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Yes the team is better with him in the line up. Which does Not discount anyone's opinion that he's a luxury. Take a deep breath. LOL What do you mean hes a luxury? free or habitual indulgence in or enjoyment of comforts and pleasures in addition to those necessary for a reasonable standard of well-being: a life of luxury on the French Riviera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Earth_Mud Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Yes the team is better with him in the line up. Which does Not discount anyone's opinion that he's a luxury. Take a deep breath. LOL What do you mean hes a luxury? free or habitual indulgence in or enjoyment of comforts and pleasures in addition to those necessary for a reasonable standard of well-being: a life of luxury on the French Riviera. So your saying hes not necessary? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Kind of like making the playoffs is a 'luxury' SPuDS and New_Earth_Mud 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Lol. Lol. Lol. If you spent time reading what people wrote rather then dismissing the opinion of others you'd have answers to your question. It's not my job to hold your hand. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Earth_Mud Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Lol. Lol. Lol. If you spent time reading what people wrote rather then dismissing the opinion of others you'd have answers to your question. It's not my job to hold your hand. Lol. Hold my hand? WTF? You just said that Buff is a luxury and not necessary. Is that not correct? Im not dismissing your opinion... I asked you a question about it. Is that not correct? If i was dismissing it then i wouldnt ask you to clarify it now would i? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Lol. Lol. Lol. If you spent time reading what people wrote rather then dismissing the opinion of others you'd have answers to your question. It's not my job to hold your hand. Lol. Hold my hand? WTF? You just said that Buff is a luxury and not necessary. Is that not correct? Im not dismissing your opinion... I asked you a question about it. Is that not correct? If i was dismissing it then i wouldnt ask you to clarify it now would i? Lol New_Earth_Mud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Earth_Mud Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Lol. Lol. Lol. If you spent time reading what people wrote rather then dismissing the opinion of others you'd have answers to your question. It's not my job to hold your hand. Lol. Hold my hand? WTF? You just said that Buff is a luxury and not necessary. Is that not correct? Im not dismissing your opinion... I asked you a question about it. Is that not correct? If i was dismissing it then i wouldnt ask you to clarify it now would i? Lol Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 It's a contidiction in, and of itself, to re-up Buff, because wanting him and rebuffing him just doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 What I mean by luxury is we already have 2 top 4 young rh d men in myers and Trouba. When you think about it you don't need 3. It would be nice but isn't necessary really. Maybe buff can play the left side tho. If not it's pretty tough to give all 3 equal minutes. Well its not, it's just that maybe that 7 million or so would be better spent elsewhere. Perhaps areas where depth isn't as strong as the rhd side. Add in that buff will be 30 and perhaps looking for big term and money. Just saying it might make more sense to upgrade the team elsewhere. Then again who really knows what buff wants. That's the big question. What does buff want. Seems like he likes it here likes being a leader here. He might not like it elsewhere or might not be a leader elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 One thing. 8.5 9 million? Who has the cap space. Teams that aren't winning any time soon do. The contenders sure don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Earth_Mud Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Where does this 8 or 9 mil come from? Whos going to pay Buff that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Where does this 8 or 9 mil come from? Whos going to pay Buff that? I saw someone say that but I agree that's way too much and nobody will pay that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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