Floyd Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 QB, OL and OC cannot succeed without each other... Who was it that said the Labatte signing wasn't working out again? Sure seems like he is the leader on that line right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valderan_CA Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Wow SSK looks good coming out of the gate this year - Whatever Cortez is doing with their run formations is absolutely beautiful (I think Sheets is good, I think their X's and O's are better)Heh... betting against Edm run defense still keeping me strikeless Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted July 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Sure it is, none of that crap will be fixed until our QB is fixed so it's all irrelevant. Heck we can have the best game plan in football but we'd still look like utter crap. Get with the program! Bull. You can start Goltz, or trade for Glenn or Tate like some have suggested, and it wouldn't matter with our current system. Get with the program? Try learning football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Cortez is an EXPERIENCED OC. What a concept, actually hiring experienced coaches at the coordinatorpositions who have a proven WINNING CFL track record. That's what the Riders got with Cortez. What we have with Crowton right now is indescribable on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Cortez is an EXPERIENCED OC. What a concept, actually hiring experienced coaches at the coordinatorpositions who have a proven WINNING CFL track record. That's what the Riders got with Cortez. What we have with Crowton right now is indescribable on offense. The old catch 22. How does a coach get experience as a coordinator if only experienced coaches with proven winning CFL records are hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 bottom line experience or no hire good people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 The best way to beat a good offense.......is to keep their asses planted on the bench as long as possible. Even a shitty offense (like the Bombers) can eat up clock with ball control but that means getting good production on first down, especially when all your big play guys are sitting in sick bay. Any QB can throw 6 - 7 yards, which is what you need on first down, once you're in second 3 or 4, then you can start to think about running. This is CFL Offense 101 at it's most basic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Cortez is an EXPERIENCED OC. What a concept, actually hiring experienced coaches at the coordinatorpositions who have a proven WINNING CFL track record. That's what the Riders got with Cortez. What we have with Crowton right now is indescribable on offense. He is, however, what Lapo thought, fit his game plan. I don't know what Burke sees in him, that fits in his game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 The old catch 22. How does a coach get experience as a coordinator if only experienced coaches with proven winning CFL records are hired. I don't think coordinator experience has to be pre-requisite, but there should at least be some knowledge of the Canadian game and previous experience as a CFL positional coach. Cortez, for example, was a QB coach in the CFL before ever becoming an OC. All the successful OCs right now are the same way. Chapdelaine, Milanovich/Brady, hell even Dickenson with all his knowledge of the game spent time as a positional coach before advancing to OC. It's just the only way that you're going to have success in the CFL and unfortunately the Bombers chose to ignore that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 I want to thank that crap Hamilton team (that we couldn't beat) for staying home in Guelph & sending a 10 year old pee wee team in their place so the Riders could win 3 CFL Players Of The Week... Like no other team plays when the Riders win???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Wow, that's a lot of wows. Like I said earlier. our coaching wasn't vedry good Friday. Crowton & Creehan have game plans the players can't win with. Or the players aren't good enough to meet the expectations of the coaches.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Or the players aren't good enough to meet the expectations of the coaches.. Sure, blame the players & not the coaches. Hear that Gary, it wasn't your fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robynjt Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Can't believe Ray and Harris got beat out for Durant and Bagg in garbage time against a team that didn't even bother to show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Can't believe Ray and Harris got beat out for Durant and Bagg in garbage time against a team that didn't even bother to show up. Eastern media loves the Riders. Especially Rod Black & TSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 yeah a guy with his only incomplete pass being a drop should not be denied POW I don't care how many yards anyone else had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Ray's game against us is the closest thing to a perfect game that a QB has ever played in the CFL. 19/20 passing is unreal. For him not to get offensive player of the week is bullshit. It's funny how the conversation here this week has continued to center on Buck and not on our defence's utter failure to compete against the Argos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Ray's game against us is the closest thing to a perfect game that a QB has ever played in the CFL. 19/20 passing is unreal. For him not to get offensive player of the week is bullshit. Well, it's only a CFL record, so how important could that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 I once saw Dieter Brock go 41 of 48 vs Ottawa in 1981. That was in my mind, until Matt Dunigan's 713 yard passing game vs Edmonton in 1993, the best performance by a qb I had ever seen anywhere, CFL or NFL. Brock absolutely dominated the Rough Riders in that game. They couldn't stop him & he was in a zone all by himself just shredding the Ottawa defense. And Dunigan had big play after big play in his game from his receivers. Matt was also ina zone but it was a completely different kind of a game. Ricky Ray wasn't flashy on Friday night like Brock or Dunigan were in their particular games mentioned... Ray was just machine like efficient. Patient & taking what the Bombers gave him short, medium or over the top. Ray is just a great qb in his own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Ray is the best qb in the league and has been for quite a long time just because he's mpossible to rattle and if you give him any opportunity at all he just never misses on a pass. Doesn't matter if it's short of long he can put it right where it needs to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Remember the time Maas completed something obscene like 20 passes in a row against us =\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Probably the only good game he played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Remember the time Maas completed something obscene like 20 passes in a row against us =\ you mean the game where marcus howell was the best db we dressed? ESPN Classic Canada still shows that game sometimes as a "classic" CFL matchup, it's ugly to watch now as it was back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBlink Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 We still joke about the DBs that we had playing in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 We still joke about the DBs that we had playing in that game. Marcus Howell, Geoff Drover, Wade Miller, Glen Murray, Susan Thompson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Marcus Howell, Geoff Drover, Wade Miller, Glen Murray, Susan Thompson Troy Westwood played a few downs at safety IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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