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Madani: CFLPA Recommends Strike Vote To Members

http://www.sportsnet.ca/football/cfl/cflpa-preparing-for-potential-labour-stoppage/

 

"Believing they have reached an impasse after four months of negotiations with the Canadian Football League, the CFL Players’ Association is recommending its membership proceed with a strike vote, Sportsnet has learned.

The collective bargaining agreement between the league and players expires May 30, on the eve of training camp. And while both sides are scheduled to meet this Thursday and Friday in Toronto, documents obtained by Sportsnet indicate the union is readying itself for a potential labour stoppage.

“It is the position of your Negotiating Committee that the position of the CFL in relation to almost all matters and their refusal to have the cap in some way connected to revenue are unreasonable,” reads an internal memo written by CFLPA President Scott Flory and distributed to all CFL players last Friday. “As a result, we are recommending that the Players proceed with a strike vote.”

Flory, who did not immediately respond to Sportsnet’s request for comment, has previously stated that the union will not play the 2014 season under terms of the expiring CBA, while both sides negotiate.

Sources told Sportsnet that when the two sides broke on May 2, the league, which declined comment for this story, said it would return this week with further input from governors/owners on making progress toward a new economic model.

Since talks began in February, the CFLPA has been steadfast in its pursuit of revenue sharing, something that wasn’t included in the 2010 deal but has existed between the league and the CFLPA in the past. The league’s negotiation committee has not budged from its stance of having a fixed cap.

At the centre of the debate is a new television deal, reportedly worth $40 million this coming season. The current deal is worth $15.3 million.

Last season’s salary cap was $4.4 million and proposals obtained by Sportsnet show the CFL has offered the following when it comes to player compensation:

2014 – $4,500,000.00
2015 – $4,600,000.00
2016 – $4,650,000.00
2017 – $4,700,000.00
2018 – $4,750,000.00
2019 – $4,800,000.00
2020 – $4,900,000.00
2021 – $5,000,000.00

There are several other points of contention. The CFLPA has proposed a minimum annual player salary of $55,000—with a 10 percent increase annually. The league countered with a $46,000 minimum, which caps at $49,000 in 2021.

The union has proposed practice roster players make no less than $1,000 a week (or $18,000 per season). The league has countered with $750/week, but to increase the practice roster size to 12, from seven, and implement “two-way” contracts, making it easier for teams to release players.

The union is also pushing for an increase to post-season playoff share, and a hike to the Grey Cup bonus cheque, which the league has refused.

One area the two sides have come to terms on is the increase in roster size–from 42 to 44 on game day. The extra two spots would be occupied by a non-import and one designated import. The reserve list would drop from four per game to two.

The CFL has proposed an eight-year collective bargaining agreement, double the length of the current deal. The union wants the duration to be “subject to negotiation.”

A source tied to the league, speaking on the condition of anonymity, believes the tactic of the league and its governors/owners is patience—the thinking being that the union will eventually give in once the risk of losing pay is a legitimate possibility."

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@ArashMadani: Bang. RT @JasonAMT: @CFLMikeCopeland your PR bullying tactics are embarrassing, and unprofessional. We stand United as a union. #CFL #CFLPA

@ArashMadani: And boom goes the dynamite. RT @scratchingpost: #CFLPA VP Marwan Hage: "It's two steps forward, ten steps backward." #CFL

@ArashMadani: BREAKING: Excerpt from CFLPA internal memo: "After we are legally allowed to conduct the vote in Alberta, we will all strike together." #CFL

@ArashMadani: Unnecessary! RT @AndrewBucholtz: The NFL has independent sideline neurologists, but #CFL president Michael Copeland says they're unnecessary

@ArashMadani: BREAKING: #CFL commissioner Mark Cohon has, at last, joined the bargaining talks between the league and the players... Urgency being felt.

@ArashMadani: Wow. Now the #CFL players are tossing back uppercuts. RT @CButler28: When can I get my Cohon jersey?

@ArashMadani: Boom. RT @KBergCBS: NBA and the Sterling family trust have settled their dispute, league announces. The team will be sold to Steve Ballmer.

The company always has the better pr too. Unions might waste money on stupid things but it's rarely spent on pr and marketing.

Actually I hear the teachers, electrician, and various government employee unions advertising all the time

@ArashMadani: Bang. RT @JasonAMT: @CFLMikeCopeland your PR bullying tactics are embarrassing, and unprofessional. We stand United as a union. #CFL #CFLPA

@ArashMadani: And boom goes the dynamite. RT @scratchingpost: #CFLPA VP Marwan Hage: "It's two steps forward, ten steps backward." #CFL

@ArashMadani: BREAKING: Excerpt from CFLPA internal memo: "After we are legally allowed to conduct the vote in Alberta, we will all strike together." #CFL

@ArashMadani: Unnecessary! RT @AndrewBucholtz: The NFL has independent sideline neurologists, but #CFL president Michael Copeland says they're unnecessary

@ArashMadani: BREAKING: #CFL commissioner Mark Cohon has, at last, joined the bargaining talks between the league and the players... Urgency being felt.

@ArashMadani: Wow. Now the #CFL players are tossing back uppercuts. RT @CButler28: When can I get my Cohon jersey?

@ArashMadani: Boom. RT @KBergCBS: NBA and the Sterling family trust have settled their dispute, league announces. The team will be sold to Steve Ballmer.

is there a more unlikable member of the media?

@ArashMadani: Bang. RT @JasonAMT: @CFLMikeCopeland your PR bullying tactics are embarrassing, and unprofessional. We stand United as a union. #CFL #CFLPA

@ArashMadani: And boom goes the dynamite. RT @scratchingpost: #CFLPA VP Marwan Hage: "It's two steps forward, ten steps backward." #CFL

@ArashMadani: BREAKING: Excerpt from CFLPA internal memo: "After we are legally allowed to conduct the vote in Alberta, we will all strike together." #CFL

@ArashMadani: Unnecessary! RT @AndrewBucholtz: The NFL has independent sideline neurologists, but #CFL president Michael Copeland says they're unnecessary

@ArashMadani: BREAKING: #CFL commissioner Mark Cohon has, at last, joined the bargaining talks between the league and the players... Urgency being felt.

@ArashMadani: Wow. Now the #CFL players are tossing back uppercuts. RT @CButler28: When can I get my Cohon jersey?

@ArashMadani: Boom. RT @KBergCBS: NBA and the Sterling family trust have settled their dispute, league announces. The team will be sold to Steve Ballmer.

is there a more unlikable member of the media?

BANG, BOOM, BREAKING, WOW!

 

 

@ArashMadani: Bang. RT @JasonAMT: @CFLMikeCopeland your PR bullying tactics are embarrassing, and unprofessional. We stand United as a union. #CFL #CFLPA

@ArashMadani: And boom goes the dynamite. RT @scratchingpost: #CFLPA VP Marwan Hage: "It's two steps forward, ten steps backward." #CFL

@ArashMadani: BREAKING: Excerpt from CFLPA internal memo: "After we are legally allowed to conduct the vote in Alberta, we will all strike together." #CFL

@ArashMadani: Unnecessary! RT @AndrewBucholtz: The NFL has independent sideline neurologists, but #CFL president Michael Copeland says they're unnecessary

@ArashMadani: BREAKING: #CFL commissioner Mark Cohon has, at last, joined the bargaining talks between the league and the players... Urgency being felt.

@ArashMadani: Wow. Now the #CFL players are tossing back uppercuts. RT @CButler28: When can I get my Cohon jersey?

@ArashMadani: Boom. RT @KBergCBS: NBA and the Sterling family trust have settled their dispute, league announces. The team will be sold to Steve Ballmer.

is there a more unlikable member of the media?

 

BANG, BOOM, BREAKING, WOW!

 

 

Someone needs to make a comic book about this guy!

@ArashMadani: Bang. RT @JasonAMT: @CFLMikeCopeland your PR bullying tactics are embarrassing, and unprofessional. We stand United as a union. #CFL #CFLPA

@ArashMadani: And boom goes the dynamite. RT @scratchingpost: #CFLPA VP Marwan Hage: "It's two steps forward, ten steps backward." #CFL

@ArashMadani: BREAKING: Excerpt from CFLPA internal memo: "After we are legally allowed to conduct the vote in Alberta, we will all strike together." #CFL

@ArashMadani: Unnecessary! RT @AndrewBucholtz: The NFL has independent sideline neurologists, but #CFL president Michael Copeland says they're unnecessary

@ArashMadani: BREAKING: #CFL commissioner Mark Cohon has, at last, joined the bargaining talks between the league and the players... Urgency being felt.

@ArashMadani: Wow. Now the #CFL players are tossing back uppercuts. RT @CButler28: When can I get my Cohon jersey?

@ArashMadani: Boom. RT @KBergCBS: NBA and the Sterling family trust have settled their dispute, league announces. The team will be sold to Steve Ballmer.

is there a more unlikable member of the media?

BANG, BOOM, BREAKING, WOW!

 

Someone needs to make a comic book about this guy!

Wait. He's not in a comic already called " real life " .

He seems like a tool

 

@ArashMadani: Bang. RT @JasonAMT: @CFLMikeCopeland your PR bullying tactics are embarrassing, and unprofessional. We stand United as a union. #CFL #CFLPA

@ArashMadani: And boom goes the dynamite. RT @scratchingpost: #CFLPA VP Marwan Hage: "It's two steps forward, ten steps backward." #CFL

@ArashMadani: BREAKING: Excerpt from CFLPA internal memo: "After we are legally allowed to conduct the vote in Alberta, we will all strike together." #CFL

@ArashMadani: Unnecessary! RT @AndrewBucholtz: The NFL has independent sideline neurologists, but #CFL president Michael Copeland says they're unnecessary

@ArashMadani: BREAKING: #CFL commissioner Mark Cohon has, at last, joined the bargaining talks between the league and the players... Urgency being felt.

@ArashMadani: Wow. Now the #CFL players are tossing back uppercuts. RT @CButler28: When can I get my Cohon jersey?

@ArashMadani: Boom. RT @KBergCBS: NBA and the Sterling family trust have settled their dispute, league announces. The team will be sold to Steve Ballmer.

is there a more unlikable member of the media?

 

I don't mind Madani. Why is it people here to have a hate on for someone in the media everyday?

I don't mind Madani. Why is it people here to have a hate on for someone in the media everyday?

 

 

 

Because nobody likes a A*rash in the summertime…. can be so annoying. 

 

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I don't get the thing about sideline neurologists. Just seems like an idea that is being puffed up without actually thinking about it.

Does the NHL have specific neurologists on the bench? My understanding is there are league mandated protocols in place for the teams existing training staff to abide by.

Are the cfl trainers not capable of checking for concussions etc?

Players should understand that the nfl has a lot

Of things the cfl doesn't and won't have.

neurologists wouldn't come cheap either, you are probably look at a few hundred grand (250 k ish) for just one.. how many would they need? 

 

4 seems to be a number that would work but right there is 1 million bucks, players willing to give up something else to make that happen? 

 

those neurologists would be paid more than most of the players.

neurologists wouldn't come cheap either, you are probably look at a few hundred grand (250 k ish) for just one.. how many would they need? 

 

4 seems to be a number that would work but right there is 1 million bucks, players willing to give up something else to make that happen? 

 

those neurologists would be paid more than most of the players.

 

I don't think they'd be working full-time for the teams.  Probably pay them to be on-call during games, probably a few thousand per game, 81 games x $2500, $200,000 per season for the entire league, something in that range.

Anyone else not crazy about the active roster increase ?

Why does there need to be another two players dressed and why only two on the reserve list ?

Should have just stayed at 42 + 4 or if they really want to add to the roster 46 + 4.

I'd also like to see the league make it harder for teams to hide players on the IR and QBs included in the ratio.

Anyone else not crazy about the active roster increase ?

Why does there need to be another two players dressed and why only two on the reserve list ?

Should have just stayed at 42 + 4 or if they really want to add to the roster 46 + 4.

I'd also like to see the league make it harder for teams to hide players on the IR and QBs included in the ratio.

 

Why not just let teams dress 46 guys if they want and scrap the reserve list altogether?  Only added cost would be travel for road games, but if that's an issue, a team can travel with less than 46.

 

I don't mind Madani. Why is it people here to have a hate on for someone in the media everyday?

 

 

 

Because nobody likes a Arash in the summertime…. can be so annoying. 

 

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It's just his style. He is very well connected to the CFL. He could have, like 90% of the national sports media in this country, chosen to ignore the CFL & follow MLB, NFL, NBA & the NHL. Be grateful he feels the CFL is important.,

The one thing I don't like about this place is the constant bitching about the media whether it's local or national. I get people don't like Paul friesen or Wiecek. I just get sick of hearing about it everytime they post a story some of you don't like. Now, today it's *****, *****, ***** about Madani. 

 

Anyone else not crazy about the active roster increase ?

Why does there need to be another two players dressed and why only two on the reserve list ?

Should have just stayed at 42 + 4 or if they really want to add to the roster 46 + 4.

I'd also like to see the league make it harder for teams to hide players on the IR and QBs included in the ratio.

 

Why not just let teams dress 46 guys if they want and scrap the reserve list altogether?  Only added cost would be travel for road games, but if that's an issue, a team can travel with less than 46.

 

Injuries. The more players they can dress the better. I'd like it if they could dress 8 OL every game. 

 

Because nobody likes a A*rash in the summertime…. can be so annoying. 

 

mzl.cuxzbiri.175x175-75.jpg​  ……19189251-cartoon--crash-comic-book-eleme​  …….27374102-vector-cartoon-boom.jpg

 

It's just his style. He is very well connected to the CFL. He could have, like 90% of the national sports media in this country, chosen to ignore the CFL & follow MLB, NFL, NBA & the NHL. Be grateful he feels the CFL is important.,

 

 

Just to be clear, I wasn't necessarily talking about Madani. 

The way I see it is that these guys are football players and like you said, they're not the most well versed in labour negotiations. They're just hearing what they've been told from a fairly underwhelming players association. I totally agree that if the PA were to vote, the deal would pass.

I see you called me out there Mike regarding my tweets towards Korey Banks. I've seen many of your tweets on Twitter towards local media that is quite disrespectful, and you frame yourself as being a hero on here. In fact you mentioned several Winnipeg sports media have blocked you for your disrespectful comments towards them on twitter.

Whatever you say.

 

 

Because nobody likes a A*rash in the summertime…. can be so annoying. 

 

mzl.cuxzbiri.175x175-75.jpg​  ……19189251-cartoon--crash-comic-book-eleme​  …….27374102-vector-cartoon-boom.jpg

 

It's just his style. He is very well connected to the CFL. He could have, like 90% of the national sports media in this country, chosen to ignore the CFL & follow MLB, NFL, NBA & the NHL. Be grateful he feels the CFL is important.,

 

 

Just to be clear, I wasn't necessarily talking about Madani. 

 

I wasn't singling you out. :)

 

Anyone else not crazy about the active roster increase ?

Why does there need to be another two players dressed and why only two on the reserve list ?

Should have just stayed at 42 + 4 or if they really want to add to the roster 46 + 4.

I'd also like to see the league make it harder for teams to hide players on the IR and QBs included in the ratio.

 

Why not just let teams dress 46 guys if they want and scrap the reserve list altogether?  Only added cost would be travel for road games, but if that's an issue, a team can travel with less than 46.

 

I'd be good with that as well. Honestly I've never understood why there's a reserve list in the first place.

One of the reasons I'd rather see the active roster get smaller is due to specialty players (IE players that only have one skill set and only come in for certain plays), IMO once there's too many of them the game becomes more robotic.. Although having an extra olineman or two could prove useful in case of injuries.

Has there been any speculation as to how the strike vote went?

 

If the PA and League are not in communication and the votes have been counted and considering the PA's email to membership seemed to point to a definitive strike action, can we assume the lack of action is indicative of a vote that wasnt in favour of striking?

There has been chatter on Twitter this morning from the media that the league may lock the players out before the season starts if a deal can't be had. This would be to pre-empt the players from striking right before the playoffs.

Other tweets also mention that a majority voted to strike. Nothing official from the PA though.

i dont think it makes much sense for the players to strike right now, unless they just want to avoid training camp.  But for many players they have to see that as a detriment to their careers potentially.   The real pressure in a strike would be before the first game of the season. 

 

On the flip side, I agree 100% that the league should lock the players out if there is no agreement.  I wonder if they have anything in place to add games to the schedule.  I cant see anyone wanting to play football outdoors in December, so would they add early week games and have teams do a couple of short weeks?

 

Regardless, if both sides are strategizing the best time for labour action and NOT talking in the meantime, they are both fools, the PA moreso though as the league has made a reasonable offer.  The PA should counter with something more in line with the League's offer.

The one thing I don't like about this place is the constant bitching about the media whether it's local or national. I get people don't like Paul friesen or Wiecek. I just get sick of hearing about it everytime they post a story some of you don't like. Now, today it's *****, *****, ***** about Madani. 

 

Well guys like Friesen and Madani bring it on themselves.  Friesen revels in trolling Winnipeg fans.  And Madani has tweeted a lot of the most petty, antagonistic things I've seen from national journalists about the Bomber organization.

I just want to say, Madani intentionally will post things solely to get a rise out of people, even if he doesn't believe/agree with them. 

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