IC Khari Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/First-Take-Bombers-cant-chase-signing-Burris--243333831.html Actually agree with quite a bit in this article, unfortunately the optics for the organization of not being able to get him signed here will not be good I fear. Fair or not Walters and Miller have to deal with the legacy of both Mack and Kelly. They need to sign him to show the difference they will provide to the way we now will operate (ie. spend some money for the sake of winning). Mr. Perfect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Gittings says no real deadline? I guess aside from free agency... Bombers will like sign Willy and after that, I would think Burris negotiating position gets a fair bit weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 That's a good article. I remember the 1980's when Lunsford would break the bank signing Dieter Brock and almost every year the guy wouldn't show up at training camp and would demand more money. Then when he did show up we would run into the immovable object that was the Edmonton Eskimos and lose anyway. I am for giving Hank a fair deal, but if he wants to play games and demand more than he is worth then he can go sling pigskins in Ottawa or Edmonton for all I care, and pull his Frank routine the first time he sees a snowflake. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I agree on this being a good article and by Lawless this is quite refreshing. I think as long as willy is a free agent there is no need to panic. I wonder if the Blue have made an offer to Willy yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I wonder if the Blue have made an offer to Willy yet? Unable to do so as he is still property of the Riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I like the approach this article has taken and congrats to Gary Lawless for presenting it this way. That's two good pieces in a row for the man, and if he keeps this up, he'll be one of this off-season's writers' training camp's survivors. "The deal the Bombers have offered Burris, the CFL’s passing leader the past two seasons, is solid. Well over $300,000 per season with a two-year term. No other team in the CFL is in a position to make such an offer and as much as the Burris camp wants to rumble about multiple offers, Winnipeg’s is the best out there. Walters doesn’t need to negotiate against himself." Pretty much agree with this whole paragraph. And another point, made more obvious by the absence of his name being tossed around, is that of Wade Miller. He's mentioned here, but it seems that he is operating in the background like he said he would be, and is letting Walters handle the big boy's chair. Keep it up Wade. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I wonder if the Blue have made an offer to Willy yet?Unable to do so as he is still property of the Riders. Do we know if the Riders made an offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I wonder if the Blue have made an offer to Willy yet?Unable to do so as he is still property of the Riders. Do we know if the Riders made an offer? Last thing mentioned is that they're going to let him go to FA because they like their 3rd string more than him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I don't know why anyone's upset that Burris hasn't signed. There is little or nothing in it for him to sign right away. Our offer isn't going to go away because we need a starting QB and he is the best one available. On the flip side, there is only one starting QB spot left in the CFL so if he wants to start then he will have to sign with us. Burris wants the most money he can get and he wants as much as possible as base salary + before the season starts bonuses. The Bombers want to get him for the least money possible and they want most of it to be reaching high plateau playing bonuses. I think they will come to an agreement because it's in the best interests of both sides. blitzmore and Blue-urns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I agree with the article from Lawless. But I guarantee if they followed his plan and they ended up having another bad year, Lawless (any many of us) would be blaming the Bombers for not going after Burris harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm curious about how well the Ticats will actually do without Burris running their offence. Sure "what's his name" played great for Toronto when called on but this is a new system and he's still virtually a rookie. Something tells me Hamilton is not going to do that well this year and many will say they should have re-signed Henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Would say that this is a good piece written by Lawless, but will reserve my opinion until the part 2 of this article is written.......... either when Burris signs here or snubs the Bombers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm curious about how well the Ticats will actually do without Burris running their offence. Sure "what's his name" played great for Toronto when called on but this is a new system and he's still virtually a rookie. Something tells me Hamilton is not going to do that well this year and many will say they should have re-signed Henry. If they cut their turnovers by 1/3 they'll be scrapping with Toronto for first. Without Burris at QB that's a good possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Well we would have been scrapping for first place too, if we cut down on our poor play by 1/3, our penalties by a 1/3, and our turnovers by a 1/3. There, that's 3 thirds and makes us 100% better. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Lawless seems to want to downplay Burris having other options. Ottawa is currently out zero dollars interns of having paid money to their current QBs. They could phoney up for Burris and the worry later about who actually makes it there as QB. Montreal has AC's money now available to pay out to Burris. They resigned The perhaps heir apparent prior to AC's retirement so they had to factor that into their cap equation. You can play chicken all you want but I would be careful of how many QBs remain in the Cfl henhouse to sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-F-F-C Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 A well balanced article by Lawless who removes his usual biased personal opinions about the WBB organization. While I somewhat agree that this rebuild should be slow and steady. I'm not sure this organization can afford another 2 - 3 years of below average performance. So when a QB like the caliber of Henry Burris comes on the market. You must make a serious play as the Bombers are the only team without a proven starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 A well balanced article by Lawless who removes his usual biased personal opinions about the WBB organization. While I somewhat agree that this rebuild should be slow and steady. I'm not sure this organization can afford another 2 - 3 years of below average performance. So when a QB like the caliber of Henry Burris comes on the market. You must make a serious play as the Bombers are the only team without a proven starting QB. This. Need a better performance to remove the joke vibe we seem to have and to put butts in the seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Never thought of the 'ottawa has zero money laid out' argument... Would really make sense to sign burris as your starter while demarco develops and trade glenn for picks or players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Never thought of the 'ottawa has zero money laid out' argument... Would really make sense to sign burris as your starter while demarco develops and trade glenn for picks or players... Why trade for Glenn when you know that he will just end up being cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Its more about timelines... Glenn would be cut around TC? Or even kept around for a few games... demarco is not making top dollar... Glenn is prob 200k? Anyway, glenn has more market value - salarywise and egowise - edm, wpg, mtl, maybe bc... Someone would pay for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Never thought of the 'ottawa has zero money laid out' argument... Would really make sense to sign burris as your starter while demarco develops and trade glenn for picks or players... There were reports that Glenn had a signing bonus come due in the middle of January. Not sure how much it was but the RedBlacks do have some money tied up in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 What a cluster**** this has become. We just had the season from hell. Now we're having the off season from hell. Floyd and Shanks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Should we "lose out" on Burris, it's really not the great loss some might make it out to be. Hell, some would say we dodged a bullet. Ending up with Glenn and Willy would be a-ok with this guy... Shanks and Mr. Perfect 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I'm really worried that we'll lose out on Burris and his .250 winning percentage against the teams that we'll play the majority of our games against. Fold the franchise. Blue-urns and blitzmore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 What a cluster**** this has become. We just had the season from hell. Now we're having the off season from hell. The only way I can agree with you is to think that it must be an off season from hell if we're whining about NOT getting Henry Burris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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