Alright boys... It's a good day for some redemption. Let's even up the record!

LFG.

On 2026-07-05 at 11:28 PM, SpeedFlex27 said:

I agree. No one can say that Elgersma played badly. He did great for a young player starting his first game.

Thank God we never tried to sign Tre Ford.

5 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I never saw anyone refer to Elgersma as getting his first start last night.

Ring a bell?

20 hours ago, Mike said:

His play wasn't a problem but his deployment was. If our backup QB is a guy who needs the playbook cut down by 66% just to function, we need to have a better option. That's not an Elgersma problem, that's a team problem.

Throwing for 5.7 yards per attempt is not a recipe for success. Neither is 5.9. The offense was a real issue in terms of play call and design.

With BLM out and Brady O rumbling, maybe that's all they felt was needed. Manage the game and don't turn it over.

13 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

With BLM out and Brady O rumbling, maybe that's all they felt was needed. Manage the game and don't turn it over.

Wow..you mean smart and calculated risk taking? That doesnt fit the poor coaching narrative tho?

11 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I get it, my son was a db whom I bugged about his hands but cmon you gotta make the easy ones.

Yeah thats just an old myth..dbs are guys with fluid greasy hips..fast feet and ability to move change and dorection seamlessly.. or should be

8 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Thing is, with an American & Canadian ratio you'll never have the best players playng. There will always be players who make this team as Canadian starters who don't deserve to be on the roster & better American players will be cut. To have the best players all play then the mandated 8 Canadian starters have to be eliminated.

Best of the 7 true canadians i should have said..we havnt done that either...

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

Throwing for 5.7 yards per attempt is not a recipe for success. Neither is 5.9. The offense was a real issue in terms of play call and design.

Yeah..and that wasn't the plan with ZC but when he went out it became the plan.

Do they have zero faith in TE throwing anything intermediate and beyond...is it because we have a handicapped receiving group that doesn't facilitate a rookie being able to throw those balls with a lack of experience and touch to lead recievers and find open holes and have athleticism to compensate for less than perfect..or a second or 2 too slow reads..big time..

If we i bet even gave the ball to Perkins instead and let him run that same "scheme" the results at worst would likely have been exact same in the win..and id bet we win actually in a bigger way...Brown...we prob have won handily

25 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

With BLM out and Brady O rumbling, maybe that's all they felt was needed. Manage the game and don't turn it over.

BO should be allowed and leaned on to rumble regardless..every game until a team shows they can stop it..or mix their scheme to eliminate him..then u eviserate them thru the air with an already pre-game prepped counter punch seamlessly and immediate. Not fumble and bumble along for 2..3 quarters to finally start to figure it out...defensively too...out coaching doesn't seem to grasp that coaching concept...they go into the game with what they got and just roll with it regardless...much like the roster when camp breaks....

15 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Wow..you mean smart and calculated risk taking? That doesnt fit the poor coaching narrative tho?

I agree...they actually made some smart decesion there, but most of that was due to BO being p'eod and playing mad...you could see it in his on field demeanor.

How often tho do we see smart coaching in game tho? Not a lot..But a lot of beating your head against the wall hoping the failed planning/parts of roster works..until more times than not its too late..this happens far too often

Glad we won...but nobody should feel warm and fuzzy over it...we eeeked out a win despite the coaching blunders/decisions...and that as well is far too common last 3..4 yrs

1 hour ago, GCn20 said:

Wow..you mean smart and calculated risk taking? That doesnt fit the poor coaching narrative tho?

They scored 1 TD... not going to win many games with that kind of production.

3 minutes ago, Brandon said:

They scored 1 TD... not going to win many games with that kind of production.

And that was after a big return from Vaval. That TD "drive" was a single play from the offense - a glorified handoff to Pokey that he took 30 yards into the endzone.

But we're not talking about winning a lot of games with that formula. We're talking a our winning ONE game.. the one we were in. Based on all the variables, all we needed is what we got.

23 minutes ago, Brandon said:

They scored 1 TD... not going to win many games with that kind of production.

and was an outstanding play by pokey...basically taking the ball from behind line of scrimmage and doing it all with his athleticism...not some great play drawn up and we threaded the needle for a intermediate or better toss. Maybe it was an eye opener to see that we have and how we can actually use some or weapons in an effective way

Stoll great we got the TD but we all cant get ahead of ourselves and say it was from stella QBing in that moment or scheme...we have potential all over...just need to realize it, and with that it means also deleting some sub standard guys with upsideguys...be it raw rookie or a guy who's been here but under used

20 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

And that was after a big return from Vaval. That TD "drive" was a single play from the offense - a glorified handoff to Pokey that he took 30 yards into the endzone.

That also played a hand in it...sure its a 3 phase game and you win all phases you "should" win, but you cant expect to win em all, all the time and you also need sound coaching and prep, as well as a playmaker or 2 on both sides of the ball.

Poor planning/coaching/roster can facilitate a loss also even when all 3 phases are won in a game..

16 minutes ago, Noeller said:

But we're not talking about winning a lot of games with that formula. We're talking a our winning ONE game.. the one we were in. Based on all the variables, all we needed is what we got.

we'd be pretty ignorant of everything tho to think we would have won that if BLM didnt go down....and that even with ZC staying upright

I bet tho even with Dru being here a limited time had he been on roster and BLM didnt get hurt he could have made a game out of it...of not pulled it out, just from the effect of his return and the adrenalin of it all buoying all aspects of the team to ratchet it up a few notches...

I was confused as anyone to why Dru wasn't on the roster. But I'm not sure what people expected out to TE? He's a rookie, they kept it simple and gave him easy throws...that is what you do for rookie QBs coming off the bench. Would I have loved to see him light it up and go for 250 and 3 TDs? Of course...but that is so unlikely given his circumstance that it would have been a miracle. Remember, he's a Usports kid with all the physical tools, but he is still 100% learning how to be a pro which includes the playbook/reading pro defenses, playing at an elevated speed etc etc. He did exactly what they needed him to do, play safe and protect the ball.

1 hour ago, Booch said:

Yeah..and that wasn't the plan with ZC but when he went out it became the plan.

Do they have zero faith in TE throwing anything intermediate and beyond...is it because we have a handicapped receiving group that doesn't facilitate a rookie being able to throw those balls with a lack of experience and touch to lead recievers and find open holes and have athleticism to compensate for less than perfect..or a second or 2 too slow reads..big time..

If we i bet even gave the ball to Perkins instead and let him run that same "scheme" the results at worst would likely have been exact same in the win..and id bet we win actually in a bigger way...Brown...we prob have won handily

BO should be allowed and leaned on to rumble regardless..every game until a team shows they can stop it..or mix their scheme to eliminate him..then u eviserate them thru the air with an already pre-game prepped counter punch seamlessly and immediate. Not fumble and bumble along for 2..3 quarters to finally start to figure it out...defensively too...out coaching doesn't seem to grasp that coaching concept...they go into the game with what they got and just roll with it regardless...much like the roster when camp breaks....

I agree...they actually made some smart decesion there, but most of that was due to BO being p'eod and playing mad...you could see it in his on field demeanor.

How often tho do we see smart coaching in game tho? Not a lot..But a lot of beating your head against the wall hoping the failed planning/parts of roster works..until more times than not its too late..this happens far too often

Glad we won...but nobody should feel warm and fuzzy over it...we eeeked out a win despite the coaching blunders/decisions...and that as well is far too common last 3..4 yrs

We eked out a win without our starter and our backup taking his first ever snaps in the CFL. I do feel pretty good about it.

57 minutes ago, Brandon said:

They scored 1 TD... not going to win many games with that kind of production.

You are right. However, let's take context into consideration shall we?

26 minutes ago, Booch said:

and was an outstanding play by pokey...basically taking the ball from behind line of scrimmage and doing it all with his athleticism...not some great play drawn up and we threaded the needle for a intermediate or better toss. Maybe it was an eye opener to see that we have and how we can actually use some or weapons in an effective way

Stoll great we got the TD but we all cant get ahead of ourselves and say it was from stella QBing in that moment or scheme...we have potential all over...just need to realize it, and with that it means also deleting some sub standard guys with upsideguys...be it raw rookie or a guy who's been here but under used

That also played a hand in it...sure its a 3 phase game and you win all phases you "should" win, but you cant expect to win em all, all the time and you also need sound coaching and prep, as well as a playmaker or 2 on both sides of the ball.

Poor planning/coaching/roster can facilitate a loss also even when all 3 phases are won in a game..

we'd be pretty ignorant of everything tho to think we would have won that if BLM didnt go down....and that even with ZC staying upright

I bet tho even with Dru being here a limited time had he been on roster and BLM didnt get hurt he could have made a game out of it...of not pulled it out, just from the effect of his return and the adrenalin of it all buoying all aspects of the team to ratchet it up a few notches...

We'd be pretty ignorant to think what we think would have happened would have been the outcome. We will never know, and at the end of the day this game goes in the win column. PERIOD. I'm not stoked by ugly football either but instead of poo pooing over a win in very tough circumstances let's thank the football gods for the win and move on. Will we need better than what we got next game? Probably. Will we get better? I think we will.

Edited July 7Jul 7 by GCn20

Quite frankly, I think we would have lost if Hammy just kept Ford in and he ran the ride and decide on almost every play. Instead Hammy chooses a different QB on each drive and had them throw deep cuz that was the game plan.

5 hours ago, GCn20 said:

Wow..you mean smart and calculated risk taking? That doesnt fit the poor coaching narrative tho?

Even a blind squirrel finds the old acorn.

3 hours ago, Noeller said:

But we're not talking about winning a lot of games with that formula. We're talking a our winning ONE game.. the one we were in. Based on all the variables, all we needed is what we got.

Yup and now one would think that if ZC can't go this week this is a perfect test for Dru Brown on where he's at as a starter in this league.

6 hours ago, Mark H. said:

With BLM out and Brady O rumbling, maybe that's all they felt was needed. Manage the game and don't turn it over.

We got the run game going really late for the most part. The last drive was a huge hunk of our production

8 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

We got the run game going really late for the most part. The last drive was a huge hunk of our production

DT said on post game 40 of Bradys 86yrds came on that last drive.

54 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Yup and now one would think that if ZC can't go this week this is a perfect test for Dru Brown on where he's at as a starter in this league.

Imagine if they start TE over Dru ....

41 minutes ago, Brandon said:

Imagine if they start TE over Dru ....

Round here, anything is possible. Boy, that would be stupid, though.

If they really think Brown is behind TE, they should move brown to hamilton for more then we paid.

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

We got the run game going really late for the most part. The last drive was a huge hunk of our production

Yeah, it was more like a short passing game that was almost a running game, then unleash Brady at the end

5 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Round here, anything is possible. Boy, that would be stupid, though.

If they really think Brown is behind TE, they should move brown to hamilton for more then we paid.

I am not 100% certain that they would not do this. If they did then... yikes.

13 hours ago, Brandon said:

I am not 100% certain that they would not do this. If they did then... yikes.

I don't think they would TBH. They love Brown.

23 hours ago, GCn20 said:

We eked out a win without our starter and our backup taking his first ever snaps in the CFL. I do feel pretty good about it.

You are right. However, let's take context into consideration shall we?

We'd be pretty ignorant to think what we think would have happened would have been the outcome. We will never know, and at the end of the day this game goes in the win column. PERIOD. I'm not stoked by ugly football either but instead of poo pooing over a win in very tough circumstances let's thank the football gods for the win and move on. Will we need better than what we got next game? Probably. Will we get better? I think we will.

Thankful for the win...I stated that...but we were lucky...and we would not have won if BLM played full game...we just wouldn't have

That's not being overly critical or just shitting on Osh for a dumb roster...Its just reality

But....if we used BO in angry mode earlier and really got him rolling and not just the final 4 minutes, and tenderized the meat so to speak...we may have won...But we know that if ZC stayed in....that wouldn't have happened either

21 hours ago, Booch said:

Thankful for the win...I stated that...but we were lucky...and we would not have won if BLM played full game...we just wouldn't have

That's not being overly critical or just shitting on Osh for a dumb roster...Its just reality

But....if we used BO in angry mode earlier and really got him rolling and not just the final 4 minutes, and tenderized the meat so to speak...we may have won...But we know that if ZC stayed in....that wouldn't have happened either

BO in angry mode. I like that. I think the rest of the team should play in that mode as well. We just came up with our identity that needs to be better executed.

The WBB’s play in the angry mode so buckle up. (MBB TM 2026) :)