Is this ever a guy we should take a run at? I really like Pokey as a receiver but not sure he's a 1A Superstar guy... Would you ever take a run at Hatcher as your #1 and then have Pokey and Demski as 2/3?

 

 

9 hours ago, Booch said:

Also unfocused and woefully unprepared too

Which these talent laden teams you referring to tho...

'93 - '94; 2001 - 2003

Several GOATs on those teams 

2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

That's because you don't know as much as Booch.

 

Nobody knows as much as Booch...😉

15 hours ago, Booch said:

Saying a guy has obvious flaws...both of them...and signs to rectifying them still seem suspect at best...is humorous?

And coming from the person who wails the sky is falling the most around here...and most times with no basis to back any of it? Now that's humorous.

Me and @GCn20 differ in opinion on a lot...but also agree on a lot if not more..but also try and put some legitimacy and facts with it...you? Not so much 

but thanks for the recognition...😁

We both share the same sentiments on a lot of the problems the Bombers have and a similar ideology on what will be required to fix it. I am just not as opposed to MOS being our HC. I think you share similar sentiments to me on KW's job performance.

I have said all along that MOS has serious flaws that require the GM to step in. That's the difference of opinion you and I have, who has final say on what players are signed. I believe it is Walters, you believe it is Oshea. I think Osh has final say on what players are kept and how they are used, but i don't believe that Osh has final say on who is signed or resigned. Osh should have input but believe that Walters should wear the hat for who is under contract. If he has ceded that authority to MOS then that is a dereliction of duty imo.

6 hours ago, Mark H. said:

'93 - '94; 2001 - 2003

Several GOATs on those teams 

The 1980-82 Bombers... 

80: 10-6: Second in West. 

81: 11-5: Second in West.

82: 11-5: Second in West 

6 hours ago, bb1 said:

Nobody knows as much as Booch...😉

nope....Truth bomb haha

1 hour ago, GCn20 said:

We both share the same sentiments on a lot of the problems the Bombers have and a similar ideology on what will be required to fix it. I am just not as opposed to MOS being our HC. I think you share similar sentiments to me on KW's job performance.

I have said all along that MOS has serious flaws that require the GM to step in. That's the difference of opinion you and I have, who has final say on what players are signed. I believe it is Walters, you believe it is Oshea. I think Osh has final say on what players are kept and how they are used, but i don't believe that Osh has final say on who is signed or resigned. Osh should have input but believe that Walters should wear the hat for who is under contract. If he has ceded that authority to MOS then that is a dereliction of duty imo.

GM yes I believe has final say....or should....that being said Osh has too much sway...was even reported as such, and Walter's even has been on record more or less saying Osh has had hissy fit/temper tantrums about roster...that is not a good thing, and needed to be rectified.

We need the G.M to do his jib, and H.C to do his from what the G.M gives him....I dont think thats 100 percent how it's going here, and it's obvious from what we witnessed last few yrs...but when you have buddies all in the role they have here...those defined lines get blurred

Walter's prob succumbed to the whining that if you pooch Jake and Kolo....I want this player...or that player kinda thing...and again...bad management all around

8 hours ago, Mark H. said:

'93 - '94; 2001 - 2003

Several GOATs on those teams 

really tho....thats a poor argument that if Osh was coaching those teams they'd have won, because of amy of those coaches had been in control of the 2022-2025 teams...we prob have 3 more cup wins

One the yrs u cited we had the QB go out in EF and also got boned on 2 calls in the pre-review era

another a kicker who couldnt hit broad side of a barn and a RB who was essentially still drunk come game day....

93-Matty got hurt and we had to play Garza

94-Hit the upright and lost by 2 and a call in favour of Baltimore that would be reversed if there had been replay.

 

55 minutes ago, Booch said:

One the yrs u cited we had the QB go out in EF and also got boned on 2 calls in the pre-review era

another a kicker who couldnt hit broad side of a barn and a RB who was essentially still drunk come game day....

Some of these issues...are strongly connected to coaching. 

21 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

93-Matty got hurt and we had to play Garza

94-Hit the upright and lost by 2 and a call in favour of Baltimore that would be reversed if there had been replay.

 

Yes. And there are excuses for 2001 too. 

31 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

Some of these issues...are strongly connected to coaching. 

Yes. And there are excuses for 2001 too. 

YEAH...true, as seen here that coaching has rostered questionable players

I know you are a Osh fan, and I can say yes he was a huge part of that success (can't be denied) but was also a bigger part of the flops too, as he had final say 

 

1 hour ago, Booch said:

YEAH...true, as seen here that coaching has rostered questionable players

I know you are a Osh fan, and I can say yes he was a huge part of that success (can't be denied) but was also a bigger part of the flops too, as he had final say 

The physicality and willingness to go to wall for their coach, from 2017 to sometime in 2022, cannot be denied.

2022 to 2025 are somewhat of a head scratcher, it does seem that complacency set in, much of it for the reasons you always cite.

2 hours ago, Mark H. said:

Some of these issues...are strongly connected to coaching. 

Yes. And there are excuses for 2001 too. 

2001 was the most gut-wrenching GC loss for me: the drought, plus that talent gap between us and the stamps. 

1 minute ago, Mark H. said:

The physicality and willingness to go to wall for their coach, from 2017 to sometime in 2022, cannot be denied.

2022 to 2025 are somewhat of a head scratcher, it does seem that complacency set in, much of it for the reasons you always cite.

You sure are right about that. The pre-ship teams played everyone so tough. The magic with finding Zach, moving BA to S, etc, in 19 was insane. And the 21 team was a monster that played like they had a chip on their shoulder. That unit could've hung 50 in every single game. Zach got to sit and chill in so many 4ths lol. 

 I think the 21 atmosphere of being unbeatable from the outside, and the fact that we kept scraping our way back to GCs, softened things up a lot. Mos needed to tighten the reins in those years, not loosen them. 

https://www.riderville.com/2026/01/28/roughriders-release-pending-free-agent-shawn-bane-jr/

Bane Jr released

3 minutes ago, Brandon said:

https://www.riderville.com/2026/01/28/roughriders-release-pending-free-agent-shawn-bane-jr/

Bane Jr released

Screams nfl opportunity to me but maybe not. 

Bane's release screams you've been hurt and we are not going to bring you back to me.

46 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Screams nfl opportunity to me but maybe not. 

30 years old, had a torn ACL that forced him to miss the end of 2024 and almost all of 2025.  Not exactly what the NFL looks for.

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

2001 was the most gut-wrenching GC loss for me: the drought, plus that talent gap between us and the stamps. 

Bob Cameron of all people gets a punt blocked! Returned for a td as well. Just pisses me off thinking about it even still.

I also maintain that if Westwood makes those first few field goals we win that game. Jumping out 9-0 is a hell of a lot different momentum wise than 4-0

2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

I think the 21 atmosphere of being unbeatable from the outside, and the fact that we kept scraping our way back to GCs, softened things up a lot. Mos needed to tighten the reins in those years, not loosen them. 

On point.

Well, so much for that option... Austin Mack asking price just went up. 

 

 

Curious how much he got. Emilus and KSB both got larger deals correct?

No surprise that Johnson nre-upped. Corey Mace has created the same atmosphere Osh had from 2019-2022. 

18 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Curious how much he got. Emilus and KSB both got larger deals correct?

More than likely backed the truck up on a multi-year.....Mack and White still out there.... but the cast is dwindling

3 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Bane's release screams you've been hurt and we are not going to bring you back to me.

and u had 1 decent yr...not a priority signing in their mind which is smart....and best not be landing here When Mack...White....Rhymes...Eberhardt...Brisset are available...Is Gittens still a FA??

I thought Johnson was younger...29 hardly old but I thought he was like 25..26

If we ended up with say Eberhardt and Brisset, would that be that bad?

38 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

No surprise that Johnson nre-upped. Corey Mace has created the same atmosphere Osh had from 2019-2022. 

Im surprised he didnt get more of an NFL look, but then I also think he could've gotten nutty money in free agency. 

52 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Curious how much he got. Emilus and KSB both got larger deals correct?

Curious too. Imo, Wr, DL, Ol those are the position groups to spend money at. OL can be a bit hard for team-to-team transitions, though. And of course QB. Better to spend a million on your 4 wrs and go all young guys in the secondary imo. 

21 minutes ago, Booch said:

and u had 1 decent yr...not a priority signing in their mind which is smart....and best not be landing here When Mack...White....Rhymes...Eberhardt...Brisset are available...Is Gittens still a FA??

I thought Johnson was younger...29 hardly old but I thought he was like 25..26

Gittens is yeah. I like all those guys. 

Johnson had a decent run in the NFL before coming up, older than I thought as well but still in his peak. 

5 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

If we ended up with say Eberhardt and Brisset, would that be that bad?

I'd be very, very happy with that.  I think you still need some insurance policy, guys, like sterns. And more Canadian WR depth, but that would be fantastic. 

6 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

If we ended up with say Eberhardt and Brisset, would that be that bad?

No. I might be inclined to take Eberhardt over Mack honestly.